I made a BS/nin im hoping he will be good in pvp with the double placte so you can use 3 AS in a row
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The nin placate power does NOT allow you to crit or your AS afterward like the regular placate in the primary. These powers have two different effects. Placate in the primary sets you to untargetable and puts you in psuedo hide status (meaning hide without the defense bonus). This allows you to crit or AS. Smoke Bomb the suck *** power, just makes you untargetable provided that it passes the tohit check. It does not allow you to crit or AS after its used.
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Originally Posted by Blpup
I made a BS/nin im hoping he will be good in pvp with the double placte so you can use 3 AS in a row
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BS/WP is a bit better for PvP than BS/Nin, but don't let it stop you from playing either one you find more fun.|
Originally Posted by TrancEnding
I thought about rollin' a BS/Nin or /WP after I get my Blaster done. Any idea if its PvP worthy?
Edit: Meant to drop this in the PvP section. Oh wellz. |
If you go /Nin, Build for KB IO's as well as Recharge and some HP. /WP doesn't need help capping HP or need KB IO's, so you can focus more on recharge.
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I don't see a BS being nearly as good as EM or Elec, it doesn't hit as hard and has no status effects, or anything for that matter.
I guess just to play something new would be good enough.
I wanted War Mace or Ice Melee 
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
I wanted War Mace or Ice Melee
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I want War Mace way more than Broadsword. And I think Ice Melee is a great idea too.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
I'd play a warmace stalker, but not unless the AS animation was an overhead smash of some sort rather than a stabbing motion. And then I'd use the shovel weapon.
Assassin shovel to the face.
I'm having fun with my BS/Elec stalker. Seems like a sturdy combination. He's only lvl 12, but the future looks, um , bright.
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Ice Melee would be a very interesting stalker primary. I dont play stalkers, but i think i would play one of these!
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
I wanted War Mace or Ice Melee
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War Mace will be the very last proliferation to stalkers, because it would tread on Banes' turf.
I really want Ice and Fire stalkers.
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Ice works and both the primary and secondary hopefully will share a place in Stalker's repertoire soon.|
Originally Posted by oriand
War Mace will be the very last proliferation to stalkers, because it would tread on Banes' turf.
I really want Ice and Fire stalkers. |
Fire, however...DoT vs. Placate doesn't seem to put things in your favor...
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Oh you mean Banes already don't step on Stalkers' toes?
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Originally Posted by oriand
War Mace will be the very last proliferation to stalkers, because it would tread on Banes' turf.
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I'd pick a well played Bane over a well played Stalker any day.
FM for Stalkers would be my guess next proliferation.
Dot didn't stop spines being used for stalkers, so I don't see why it would stop FM.
They could very well remove FireSwordCircle (proly what will happen) and incinerate (problematic dot power) for AS, and placate which would leave breath of fire as the aoe and scorch, cremate, firesword and GFS as the normal st attacks.
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So Assassin's Flame, Placate, Build up, Breath of Fire, Scorch, Cremate, Firesword, Greater Firesword....and Taunt!?
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Originally Posted by Frosticus
Dot didn't stop spines being used for stalkers, so I don't see why it would stop FM.
They could very well remove FireSwordCircle (proly what will happen) and incinerate (problematic dot power) for AS, and placate which would leave breath of fire as the aoe and scorch, cremate, firesword and GFS as the normal st attacks. |
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With our luck we'll get Combustion in that slot...
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
So Assassin's Flame, Placate, Build up, Breath of Fire, Scorch, Cremate, Firesword, Greater Firesword....and Taunt!?
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Stone stalkers FTW.
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I just think Broadsword stalkers are OP if used right. Scrappers put out the most damage with Broadsword and now that Stalkers can get that "Extreme" damage crit off. Its over.
I got a fully purped out BS/WP Scrapper on freedom. Fought my friend who was purped out BS/Regen, I destroyed him. Like 5-2.
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Oy! Blaze of course.|
Originally Posted by Leo_G
So Assassin's Flame, Placate, Build up, Breath of Fire, Scorch, Cremate, Firesword, Greater Firesword....and Taunt!?
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Na I dunno, I counted 6 powers last night +as,bu,placate, but I think I double counted buildup
I vote for FE in the primary.
scorch
FS
Breath
AS
Bu
Placate
Cremate
FE
GFS
I dunno what they would do with incinerate because if dot was ever an issue incinerate is the embodiment of that issue.
Maybe FireSwordCircle...
So my vote in no particular order, though all are probably too good to ever happen.
Blaze
FE
FSC
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And Spines doesn't have a Toxic DoT? hmmm ... I want an Assassin's Roast :0 animation like "drink chemicals" and "Breathe of Fire" combined ... Muha ha ha
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Originally Posted by Deft_Bow
Ice works and both the primary and secondary hopefully will share a place in Stalker's repertoire soon.
Fire, however...DoT vs. Placate doesn't seem to put things in your favor... |
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Originally Posted by Frosticus
Oy! Blaze of course.
Na I dunno, I counted 6 powers last night +as,bu,placate, but I think I double counted buildup I vote for FE in the primary. scorch (yes) FS (yes) Breath (Definitely or as the AS :P) AS Bu Placate Cremate FE (doubtful, Blaze :P) GFS I dunno what they would do with incinerate because if dot was ever an issue incinerate is the embodiment of that issue. Maybe FireSwordCircle...No Stalker has ever gotten a PBAoE before, Cone...Yes So my vote in no particular order, though all are probably too good to ever happen. Blaze FE FSC |
2-Fire Sword
3-Breate of Fire or Combustion
4-Assassin's Flames (something like the Carnies that use Fire)
5-Build Up
6-Placate
7-Cremate
8-Blaze
9-Greater Fire Sword
This would be my guess for Fire Melee being prolificated over as.
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The only experience I've had with Broad Sword is combined with Electric secondary. Mine is currently 12 and my "Stalker-Guru" buddy's is lvl 38. The mixture of Defense with Resistances is something to behold. It's kinda like my lvl 50 Katana/Fire Aura Scrapper. Very durable with dual layers of damage mitigation using both Defense and Resistance coupled with a good heal and tier 9 God-mode, Power Surge. I've seen my buddy crash from Power Surge...hit a blue...hit Energize...and Power Sink...and keep rollin' in mob's corspes |
Originally Posted by TrancEnding
I thought about rollin' a BS/Nin or /WP after I get my Blaster done. Any idea if its PvP worthy?
Edit: Meant to drop this in the PvP section. Oh wellz. |
The difference as I see it for Ninjutsu versus Willpower is one utility set for another. Nin is more defensive with a good heal and some tricks, where WP is over time heals/regen rate with some defense and resistance rolled in. Nin has a "god-mode" and WP has a self-rez. So it depends on what attributes you are looking more for your PvP toon.
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Originally Posted by MurderousMalk
1-Scorch
2-Fire Sword 3-Breate of Fire or Combustion 4-Assassin's Flames (something like the Carnies that use Fire) 5-Build Up 6-Placate 7-Cremate 8-Blaze 9-Greater Fire Sword This would be my guess for Fire Melee being prolificated over as. |
Blaze as number 8 that is like a stalkers wet dream
I'd play the heck out of FM for stalkers if it had blaze. Never happen, but man it would be sweet.
I really like having a strong ranged attack on my melee toons to minimize chasing after things that run away cause I'm wailing on their buddy. I however, don't really like waiting until the 40's for that to become an option.
I thought about rollin' a BS/Nin or /WP after I get my Blaster done. Any idea if its PvP worthy?
Edit: Meant to drop this in the PvP section. Oh wellz.