the PFF shiftes you to an other dimension
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nooo that would be etheral shift. the PFF is just another bubble.
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Originally Posted by vernichterhelge
the PFF shiftes you to an other dimension
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PFF makes you "affect self only" as in just you...no pets, no nothing. it's the Oh S*** button when everything goes wrong. It's almost a phase shift.|
Originally Posted by GibberingLunatic
nooo that would be etheral shift. the PFF is just another bubble.
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| The Personal Force Field is almost impenetrable to all attacks, even Psionics and Enemy Teleportation, although attacks from more powerful foes may get through more easily. Personal Force Field will also reduce the damage of any attacks that do get through. The Personal Force Field works both ways; while it is active, you can only use powers that affect yourself. |
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Telling your pets to go bash something is NOT a power however. Your simply using your words and telling them "Go bash that guys skull in"|
Originally Posted by NurseDonna
PFF makes you "affect self only" as in just you...no pets, no nothing. it's the Oh S*** button when everything goes wrong. It's almost a phase shift.
taken from mids. |
Hence why that description for the power has no weight.
Heals, more bubbles, attempting to call in more minons when the others die, etc. THAT I can see as a no-go while the bubble is up, cause that uses your powers to do something.
But with the pets already out, your just sending them commands.
your pets aren't you
Helge corr lvl 50 rad/cold
Helge2 corr lvl 50 ice/rad
Techbothelge MM lvl 50 robo/dark
Helge Mauz def lvl 50 emp/ele
illuhelge troller lvl 50 illu/rad
Wiederbelebter helge nk lvl 50 bs/reg
Maennerschreack nightwidow lvl 44
Quantenjaeger ws lvl 3
Your bubble prevents verbal and mental messages from being sent to your minions.
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It would be game breaking both in PvE and in PvP (PvP being the lesser issue).
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I too found this annoying. You can imagine however how there COULD be a sudden spike in popularity in FF'ers if this were possible. The limitation while a downer is understandable.|
Originally Posted by Bookkeeper_Jay
It would be game breaking both in PvE and in PvP (PvP being the lesser issue).
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I've actually had my butt handed to me while in a PFF, by a enemy. however I think if they just lowered the resistance on it or just added a few extra self protections instead of the "bubble everybody else but you" kind of thing it would be a nice solid setup.
Think of it like the Cone of Silence in Get Smart.
A circle forms, everybody comes round
Just to hear the incredible sound
Of a genius smashing expectations
- Jonathan Coulton
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Not a bug, nor a problem. I'm sure you understand completely|
Originally Posted by GibberingLunatic
Seriously, huge issue with bubbles...
Personal force field... Nuff said. For those who don't understand what I'm getting at, bring up your personal force field then try issuing commands. For some reason, even though it says (affecting self only) your mini-army is NOT yourself and therefore free to do whatever they wish. So why can't we give our MM pets commands while shielded? |
Truth: You just want to issue commands while remaining as safe as possible.
Yes PFF doesn't make you immune to damage, but its pretty damn hard to get hit. So again not a real issue.
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No its just something I don't understand, your in a Force Field, yet you cant communicate to your minions. Heck I can't even make them emote.|
Originally Posted by Gypsy_of_Paradox
Not a bug, nor a problem. I'm sure you understand completely
Truth: You just want to issue commands while remaining as safe as possible. Yes PFF doesn't make you immune to damage, but its pretty damn hard to get hit. So again not a real issue. |
Same with rest, even without buffs or anything else, if I am resting, I cant communicate commands to my minions. Explain that then. No bubble, major -neg resist to all damage and for some reason I can't tell my minons to do anything?
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Originally Posted by somenegrepper
TROLL!! And seriously, stop asking for gamebreaking exploits.
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So show me where I'm ASKING for gamebreaking exploits. I'm just asking why it was built that way, nobody has given a clear answer yet.
You know who you are...
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I use hand signals.
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Originally Posted by Psylenz
Your bubble prevents verbal and mental messages from being sent to your minions.
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Branching Paragon Police Department Epic Archetype, please!
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blinking should work too right? once for attack, twice for defend... etc.
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Originally Posted by Cynical_Gamer
I use hand signals.
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@GibberingLunatic, I didn't neg rep you, I don't even use the system. Mines been disabled since the new forums started. Why do you even care, you have yours disabled as well.
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because I can still see the comments.|
Originally Posted by Gypsy_of_Paradox
@GibberingLunatic, I didn't neg rep you, I don't even use the system. Mines been disabled since the new forums started. Why do you even care, you have yours disabled as well.
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Don't tell me to minimize it, thats a band-aid over a gaping bleeding hole.
and I didn't say you were the one to do it. I just said "You know who you are"
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Lets look at the quote|
Originally Posted by GibberingLunatic
because I can still see the comments.
Don't tell me to minimize it, thats a band-aid over a gaping bleeding hole. and I didn't say you were the one to do it. I just said "You know who you are" but now its kinda odd seeing you get all defensive over it. |
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Same with rest, even without buffs or anything else, if I am resting, I cant communicate commands to my minions. Explain that then. No bubble, major -neg resist to all damage and for some reason I can't tell my minons to do anything? Oh and by the way, I'm not a troll, this is a genuine question. Thanks for neg repping me. |
Again what do you even care, you have rep disabled.
Gibbering Lunatic is quite full of animosity.
No, I'm just a gibbering lunatic. but yeah, ok. I'll concede that one should of been under the neg rep quote and was not, there was a few edits made on that post as well and I missed that part correcting the positioning. My apologies on that one.
Copy & Paste sucks at times.
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If you could use Personal Force Field and also "affect others" (examples would be using powers or even issuing commands to your pets) at the same time, it would be game-breaking.
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Originally Posted by GibberingLunatic
I'm just asking why it was built that way, nobody has given a clear answer yet.
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Its fine, I mean personally I disabled mine the day this forum went live. I believe people should post w/o regard to how others rep them. An truthful post yields better results then one candy coated for brownie points. In that regard, I don't rep anyone good or bad|
Originally Posted by GibberingLunatic
No, I'm just a gibbering lunatic. but yeah, ok. I'll concede that one should of been under the neg rep quote and was not, there was a few edits made on that post as well and I missed that part correcting the positioning. My apologies on that one.
Copy & Paste sucks at times. |
On the /FF topic though, PFF is a powerful defense power. Being able to use it and interact w/ pets would overpower /FF a lot.
i got a question, I'f I use provoke then pop my pretty PFF, does the taunt effec still there?
Whining about everything since 2006.
Ammo switching for Dual Pistols was my idea:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=135484
Yep till taunt affect wears off.
I think they need to add another bubble to that powerset, a self buff, like the beginning defense buffs that some of the other AT's get. Not as strong, but still a good defense. (I actually stopped playing my thug/bubble MM a long time ago and when I first posted it kinda came back to the forefront of my memory, hence why I asked.
Seriously, huge issue with bubbles...
Personal force field... Nuff said.
For those who don't understand what I'm getting at, bring up your personal force field then try issuing commands. For some reason, even though it says (affecting self only) your mini-army is NOT yourself and therefore free to do whatever they wish. So why can't we give our MM pets commands while shielded?