I want Ninjitsu for scrapper

I don't think it's that the devs want to have a "No Duplicates" rule, it's that they CAN'T have duplicates. If you have a power called "Alpha" and another power called "Alpha" and you activate the power "Alpha", which power activates? And while it's possible that the power being clicked on will be the one activated, I have seen enough oddities with macros (and the "Rock" temp power) to guess that when you click on a power, it calls the first power with that name, and does NOT store any kind of reference to the actual icon you clicked on.

In other words, it's an engine limitation. You would have to name Caltrops something else, even if it had the same effect. (Another example is Fire Shield in Controller Thermal. It is now called Thermal Shield, even though it's the exact same power, because it collides with Fire Shield in the Controller Epic, despite the latter having a different effect)

Now, as others have mentioned, I don't see any problems with Stealth in a Scrapper Secondary, Dark and Energy both have stealth, so it's just a matter of changing the name and dropping the special features like the ability to crit, and the short suppression time. I don't think there's anything wrong with Scrappers getting an AoE Placate, although in the name of fairness I would like Scrappers to keep their Placate as their unique feature of the set. Then again, I wonder what a Scrapper would do with Placate. It's contrary to his secondary role as a weaker tank, it does nothing for him that simply stunning or sleeping the foes wouldn't do, and wouldn't be usable to set up another Critical, as a Stalker would. It really would only be useful as an emergency escape button, which is a role it has for Stalkers as well, but Stalkers can do more with it.

The reason I like Smoke Grenade is because, as I said, when you stack stealth with -perception you get something beyond even Dark Scrappers, you can actually close into melee before attacking, as with a Stalker. Blinding Powder would serve the same purpose, but as a cone it's going to be harder to get into range to use it even with stealth. Still, it's probably enough by itself, although the devs could remove the -tohit and -perception from Scrapper Blinding Powder and just leave them the Sleep and Confuse.

There's also the fact that Smoke Grenade, as a Devices power, is a gadget like Caltrops. I suppose a gadget like Poison Gas Trap, from Traps, might be a replacement too. One other thought I have had is that if Scrappers can't have Caltrops because it is a power in their Epic, why not replace it from a power in a Stalker Epic? Unfortunately, I think most of those powers would be more powerful than Caltrops. It might be nice for the hero side to get an AoE Web Grenade, but that's really a bit powerful for a low level power, and it's not a Stalker Epic anyway. The Stalker Snipes are right out, and certainly we don't want to go with a ranged attack. So probably the "gas bomb" type of concept is the best one to go with.

I suppose an alternate idea would be to replace Caltrops, in the Scrapper Epic, with something else. Perhaps an AoE Web Grenade, or Web Cocoon.

My suggestions:
As said:
HIDE: Move around powers and replace Hide with a Stealth power (think cloaking device).

CALTROPS: Ninjas are fast. Give us a combat teleport power that has a very short animation before and after teleporting. Think every character in Anime and how they move around. Blink, I'm in your face! Give it a long enough recharge and short enough range for it to not be used as a travel. I would suggest making it target based instead of drop power. This way click a foe -> TP in -> Murderize. If the power didn't cause me to redraw, I would love to open with a Soaring Dragon after this.

As much as i hate Ela, i'd be happy with Ninjitsu. It looks like a very well designed set unlike other defensive sets. SR is just boring for me, it has nothing fun and active at all. Shields is powerful and it was fun playing for a while but i just feel it lacks the freedom. Primary restrictions, and all the power pools/IO sets needed to make it decent just kills the fun.

Ninjutsu is the most thematic for Stalkers, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't fit on Scrappers too.

They'd have to replace and re-order Hide and make a Caltrops replacement, but those shouldn't be too much of a hassle. There's some good ideas in this thread.

Comedy option: Ninjutsu Tankers.

How's this for a Ninja Tank?

Please devs, keep some things sacred.

No ninjitsu for scrappers.
And no dark miasma for trollers.

Please.

Pretty Please.

With sugar on top.

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Originally Posted by Shadow Ravenwolf My favorite combo is Faceplant/DebtCap with the TeamWipe Ancillary

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Originally Posted by Dispari Yeah, I like Blasters too.

What to replace Caltrops with?

A personal phase power? Thematic.

A longer recharge version of the Tsoo Sorceror's teleport? Click it and you randomly teleport away. Also thematic.

Why would Blasters and Dominators get a debuff set?

It's a slippery slope. Tankers are going to get radiation blast, scrappers will have forcefields, and dominators will be using ice armor. It's just a matter of time.

i want stalkers to have dual pistols, i'll letcha have ninjitsu for it! Nothing says stalker like a headshot! mwahaha