Thank you Artz... WIP
yay I has the artz! nice finish CR...
Very nice finished piece
*gratzes Bobby and CR both with it*
I do agree with Suichiro, and add to it that the left cheek (our right) looks to be too low on the face too.
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Wonderful work CR! You should definitely get back into your art, you have skills! I would love to see more of your work.
I'm in a similar boat. I did much pencil/paper illustration back in the day and pretty much just stopped. I'm not schooled in anatomy and my computer skills are self taught, so I'm in a bit of no man's land. Seeing so much talent on these boards is intimidating but your posting has inspired me to break out my sketch book again and see what emerges. Thank you!
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Wonderful work CR! You should definitely get back into your art, you have skills! I would love to see more of your work.
I'm in a similar boat. I did much pencil/paper illustration back in the day and pretty much just stopped. I'm not schooled in anatomy and my computer skills are self taught, so I'm in a bit of no man's land. Seeing so much talent on these boards is intimidating but your posting has inspired me to break out my sketch book again and see what emerges. Thank you! |

I look forward to seeing what emerges as well and let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

That is, you have the same digital image of it that everyone has... if you want
the actual artwork itself I can mail it to you as well. PM me your address if interested.
P.S. Yes I know your in Canada but I won't hold it against you... much.

It's done really well CR, but I have to say that putting in such a severe cheekbone seems to detract from the rest of the image. The line of her cowl as it crosses her face was more than enough to hint that it was there. I'd guess that you were trying to replicate LJ's penchant for having hard facial features but the effect winds up looking a bit skull-ish. Her neck is also dangerously thin compared to her full figured body.
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mentioned it and I studied it a bit more that it could be seen as what's visible of her neck is all of it and
that would indeed make it way to thin lol... next time I will have to do a better job of breaking
up the hairline so that it is very clear that some of her neck is being hidden or cover so much of
her neck with hair that you know it has to be and you can't see it any other way... it's
kind of on the edge right now and could go either way. I'll keep it mind for next time and thanks

As for the cheek, yeah I can see that on the screen it does look severe, but it's not nearly as bad
on the actual art in my hands... I wonder if it's the flash making stuff look that stark and high contrast?
Luckily, skulls are pretty awesome too.

You're likely one of the only people on this forum who could actually take the criticism properly, so I'm not going to bite my tongue on it when I normally would.
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value the opinions and tips of other artists and creative types because they often see what you
miss and will help you to improve your skills more than if you just get hundreds of people praising
your work... not that I would object to tons of abject praise mind you.

Speaking of tons... (or more precisely Kilotons...hint hint

in a bit... it's nothing fancy just a 20 min quick sketch (15 to draw 5 to color) I did last night and
it's pretty small but it was fun and it relates to CoH.
I shall call him Mini-tonnage
Just a small sketch in the upper corner of the page that turned out ok so I thought I would post it up.
Character is called Kilotonnage and is a troll with a metal jaw (I wish that jaw existed in the CC lol).
I saw a few pics of him on DA and doodled this up quick. I know that he has the scars going through
the right side of his face but this image was too small to fit them in. It's about 1.5 inches tall.
Hopefully it's at least somewhat like him lol.
that's awesome, Kilo was the unofficial PUG leader of our SG, the Envisionaries... he would aggro and the rest of us would wipe the floor with the Enemy! I miss those days... thank you for making me relive what I miss most about COH you *******!
Just kidding, Kilo will LOVE this!!!
that's awesome, Kilo was the unofficial PUG leader of our SG, the Envisionaries... he would aggro and the rest of us would wipe the floor with the Enemy! I miss those days... thank you for making me relive what I miss most about COH you *******!
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SG that has since disbanded... I too remember the good old days. Sighhhh.
Oh well things change, people move on and oh hey look powers customization.. shiny!

You just need to find the right group of people. I've been around since issue 3 and I still have a strong SG. Best ones seem to have their own networks outside of the game itself as mine is attached to the Ars Technica forums. It keeps the SG alive during times when the game is waning.
As far as the neckline goes, I was figuring that the hair was causing convenient lines making it look like the neck was smaller than it should be, but when I studied the shoulders and the angle that they swooped up into the neckline, I could only come to the conclusion that it's her actual neck that's shown, not an illusion from the hair cropping her body.
This is one of the drawbacks of drawing organically. If you see a problem later on that you might have caught on a drawthrough, you can't really fix it, because you lose the rest of the picture along with it. I would recommend trying out bluelining for a while. Even if you don't have a computer to remove the lines after scanning, the effect is very minimal and would likely serve to make your stuff more structured early on, avoiding pitfalls like this.
All it takes is a blue or green colored pencil and a few minutes of extra time.
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You just need to find the right group of people. I've been around since issue 3 and I still have a strong SG. Best ones seem to have their own networks outside of the game itself as mine is attached to the Ars Technica forums. It keeps the SG alive during times when the game is waning.
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the "right group" as far as us all getting along with minimal drama and complimentary play styles...
but your logic is sound as there wasn't much outside CoH holding it together and when the game
waned (YOU SUCK ISSUE 5!) the group did as well.
If you found such a group and everyone gets along consider yourself lucky Suichiro.

I just saw that I didn't comment on the piece for LJ *blush* You did a fantastic job, CR!!! I am impressed to say the least. And LJ, you got yourself a very fine piece of....ARTZ!! (hehe)
Gratz!!
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Late response, had to work the weekend at, oddly enough, a con....
HeroCon is Paragon Studio's own little con in San Jose at the end of October. Mostly just for my own curiosity, since I'm going, I wondered if you were because I thought it would be fun to watch you draw something :7 I daresay though that you could likely make a chunk of change there drawing if you wanted to as well, since people could walk away with sketches rather than be waiting for files to come through.
I went to the 'first' HeroCon when it was just a meet-and-greet and while it was fun, there's NO ******* WAY I'm spending money on attending, let alone 80 dollars on it. Screw that. Just cause it's local to me doesn't make it a must go. >.<
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If you found such a group and everyone gets along consider yourself lucky Suichiro.
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But I love my group more than anything, so it works out quite well. They match me in oh so many ways.

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Late response, had to work the weekend at, oddly enough, a con....
HeroCon is Paragon Studio's own little con in San Jose at the end of October. Mostly just for my own curiosity, since I'm going, I wondered if you were because I thought it would be fun to watch you draw something :7 I daresay though that you could likely make a chunk of change there drawing if you wanted to as well, since people could walk away with sketches rather than be waiting for files to come through. |
my shoulder lol. Not sure if my skillz are good enough to draw any character anyone presents to me or what anyone would
pay for it... like any other artist I'm really good at somethings and other things... not so much.

Plus if it were my first con I think I'd want to be going to events and trying out stuff and not necessarily drawing
the whole time, I think the people that can sit and draw through one have been to enough of them that
they wont feel they are missing out, just a guess though.

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late than never... errr I mean... what took you so long! I was like waiting and stuff.

Oh, we don't get along with everyone, but that's why we just kick the interlopers out. Well, in fairness it's more like we piss them off so badly that they don't ever want to come back. We are after all, powergaming elitist know-it-all pricks. :3
But I love my group more than anything, so it works out quite well. They match me in oh so many ways. ![]() |

I went to the 'first' HeroCon when it was just a meet-and-greet and while it was fun, there's NO ******* WAY I'm spending money on attending, let alone 80 dollars on it. Screw that. Just cause it's local to me doesn't make it a must go. >.<
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willing to spend the money/time for it so there has to be something more to it now, right?
Plus if it were my first con I think I'd want to be going to events and trying out stuff and not necessarily drawing the whole time, I think the people that can sit and draw through one have been to enough of them that they wont feel they are missing out, just a guess though.
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Well hopefully it has come a long way since that first meet-and-greet and it appears there are many people willing to spend the money/time for it so there has to be something more to it now, right? |

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You're likely one of the only people on this forum who could actually take the criticism properly, so I'm not going to bite my tongue on it when I normally would.