You know, there's something written here. There has to be.
But all I read was "whine whine whine."
We're all getting cool stuff. I'll bet scrappers complained when the devs added all the stalker buffs to bring their crit rate on teams above scrappers, but it was still something good being added for someone. Quit your ********.
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That would be level 20 not 26.
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
It's not that they get an updated electric armor that switches Energize up to Lightning Reflexes spot (bringing their self-heal up by lvl 26 I believe) while we "don't get that advantage, unfortunately".
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Apparently you need to work on your reading comprehension. And you need a new sarcasm meter, as the last statement pretty much states the post is in jest.|
Originally Posted by DechsKaison
You know, there's something written here. There has to be.
But all I read was "whine whine whine." We're all getting cool stuff. I'll bet scrappers complained when the devs added all the stalker buffs to bring their crit rate on teams above scrappers, but it was still something good being added for someone. Quit your ********. |
I'll break it down for you though:
-What you were suppose to read was the article that was linked.
-Specifically, the part about Electric Armor having Conserve Power Replaced (confirming the changes people were posting about on the boards)
-Specifically specifically, the part about Electric Armor having the order of its powers changed to move Energize to Lightning Reflexes spot.
Granted, the part that says Brutes won't be getting this treatment (because the only /elec character I'll probably have is my elec/elec brute) is a smack in the teeth; it's still news to be spread.
Also, I'm hamming up all the attention Scrappers are getting so when it's Stalker's turn they can't say sh#$!1
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| I'll bet scrappers complained when the devs added all the stalker buffs to bring their crit rate on teams above scrappers |
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| That would be level 20 not 26. |
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I doubt the Blaze Mastery will have anything new, 9 out of 10 doctors say it'll be the same as Tankers (case in point, Tankers having Energy Mastery, Scrappers have the exact same thing, just renamed Body Mastery). Scrappers have been wanting a new APP before Villains even existed...| t's not even the fact that we're getting 1 power added to our patron/epics (which most likely will be conserve power for 2 sets for stalkers) while Scrappers get a whole new epic (Blaze Mastery). |
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| It's not the fact that scrappers get 2 sets proliferated while we get one. |
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| It's not that they get a cool tintable powerset that has effects, animations and playstyle unlike any sets they already have while we get a (for the most part) reanimated 'Ninja Blade'. |
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| It's not that they get an updated electric armor that switches Energize up to Lightning Reflexes spot (bringing their self-heal up by lvl 26 I believe) while we "don't get that advantage, unfortunately". |
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You have a point there. Stalkers do have a nice spread of powers in their patron pools compared to Scrappers. From ranged AoEs, to snipes to self-buffs, to tier 9s...oh, and pets too.| You can complain all you want, it's not like Scrappers have access to Hibernate or a click power that grants a considerable amount of +defense. |
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| so what? Stalkers have received DM/DA, Elec/ElA, and DB/WP, now they're getting Broadsword. Lets see what Scrappers have received...Fire/Fire, DB/WP, Shields, now they're getting Elec/ElA. |
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| Broadsword is still better imo. |
...but if it's just your opinion, then I guess mine is Katana/Ninja Blade is better. So the opinions balance out and we end up with a set that's pretty much has 'seen it' all over it.
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| probably the only thing in your post I can agree with |
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Actually, I talked to quite a few scrapper players who were irritated that Stalkers were getting better at crits which was "supposed" to be scrappers "special thing".
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
No, I'm pretty sure scrappers were saying "Aww, good for them. Now they're not lolstalkers anymore".
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Yeah, hang on. Let me wipe the tear out of my eye. No, it's not sympathy. I am just laughing THAT hard. I'd love to have a Scrapper fan explain to me how having better criticals AND a higher damage scalar AND better survivability is their "special thing". |
Originally Posted by Wavicle
Actually, I talked to quite a few scrapper players who were irritated that Stalkers were getting better at crits which was "supposed" to be scrappers "special thing".
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When they buffed Stalkers they had to improve something and I for one am glad it wasn't hiding or running away. I'm sure there are plenty of Scrapper-heads out there who think that's OUR "special thing."
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Really, I believe it was more of a "now we can't look down on them" type of reaction than a "the turk ur jurb!" Even if those few scrappers thought crits were their special thing, they knew some kind of radical change was needed to bring Stalkers even close to the pedestal scrappers put themselves on.|
Originally Posted by Wavicle
Actually, I talked to quite a few scrapper players who were irritated that Stalkers were getting better at crits which was "supposed" to be scrappers "special thing".
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I never thought Stalkers were all that bad compared to Scraps, and think they're equal now with different strengths. But there are still people who think Stalks are weak sauce and Scraps are teh aweshum!
Back on topic, I don't really mind waiting that long for Energize on a Stalker. I can get by...but for a Brute!? That's just a pain in the bum.
...and further back on topic...what more can they possibly add to the patron pools? I'm all for getting Dark Servant from Ghost Widow or Lightning Storm from Sirocco but ain't it time for more concepts? Where's the fire or ice patron for my Ice/Fire dom? Ninja or weapon patron for my Spines/DA (he needs shuriken or a thrown weapon besides the throwing knife he already has)?
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Agreed, I never said it was Reasonable for them to complain, I just remember them doing it.
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Originally Posted by Zem__
Yeah, hang on. Let me wipe the tear out of my eye. No, it's not sympathy. I am just laughing THAT hard. I'd love to have a Scrapper fan explain to me how having better criticals AND a higher damage scalar AND better survivability is their "special thing".
When they buffed Stalkers they had to improve something and I for one am glad it wasn't hiding or running away. I'm sure there are plenty of Scrapper-heads out there who think that's OUR "special thing." |
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I do agree with one complaint; unless they've done something exotic with it, getting Broadsword is kind of "meh". Not bad, just . . . meh.
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I never really liked Elec Armor honestly >.> I'm probably going with BS/Regen for my Stalker :3 I can deal w/ slow recharging powers...*waves at Super Strength and Axe* I tend to start IOing out my characters in the mid 30's, I can cope. Katana/Ninja Blade have always been finesse types in comparison to Broadsword which is just...RAWR! *gores*
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Well you got your bursty broadsword that obviously kills your foes so much more faster than a katana would that you don't need that heal. Lightning Reflexes, to get those slow recharging attacks up faster, is the more worthwhile lvl 20 power for your playstyle, right?
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Ok, I just got back from vegas so I have a lot of readings to catch up.
But do Brutes and Stalkers get Energize or not? I know they can't change the order between Lightning Reflex and Conserve Power. The article says "Brutes and Stalkers do not get this advantage, unfortunately". The advantage of not having Energize earlier or not having Energize at all?
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
The Former. All forms of elec get Energize
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Originally Posted by Obscure_Blade
getting Broadsword is kind of "meh". Not bad, just . . . meh.
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I thought that, but then I came up with a concept, and then I came up with the look and cossie, and then I gave it a name...doh.
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Oh cool. That's ok then.
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Originally Posted by Xemulas
The Former. All forms of elec get Energize
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What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
Can we get Ice/...I would love a quick ice melee set
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"During testing, we realized that Energize came too late in the lifetime of a character to truly be useful, so for the new versions of the powerset, we swapped the progression of Lightning Reflexes and Energize (Brutes and Stalkers do not get this advantage, unfortunately)."
Does that statement read as funny (ie a complete joke) as it does to me?
... It comes too late to be useful, but tough sh*t stalkers and brutes lol
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Yes. Screw the ******* cottage rule already, or whichever one applies here. Just switch them around for all ATs that get the set.
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Originally Posted by Frosticus
Does that statement read as funny (ie a complete joke) as it does to me?
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What's weird here to me is that power switching aboot has been done before. War Mace got one of their powers (single target attack I think) moved to level 4 or 6 previously.
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Originally Posted by Supernumiphone
Yes. Screw the ******* cottage rule already, or whichever one applies here. Just switch them around for all ATs that get the set.
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Yes. And I remember long ago when some tank primaries (all primaries? It's been too long) got taunt at level 4. That was switched to level 10 quite a bit later - I think it was after the great defense nerf of oh-something. Logged in my level 5 fire/axe about a year later and she still had taunt. Felt the need to burn a freespec to fix that since the friend I played her with had quit and I just soloed her after playing her again.|
Originally Posted by Carnifax_EU
What's weird here to me is that power switching aboot has been done before. War Mace got one of their powers (single target attack I think) moved to level 4 or 6 previously.
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I concur.... I also believe your stalker not only has the scrappers crit but hide and placate. No one can have everything because if they did, my controller wants MM pets.|
Originally Posted by Wavicle
Actually, I talked to quite a few scrapper players who were irritated that Stalkers were getting better at crits which was "supposed" to be scrappers "special thing".
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Could you explain this a little more? I thought that Stalkers had already gotten Hibernate, Disruptor Blast, Ball Lightning, and Shadow Meld added to Leviathan, Mace, Mu, and Soul Mastery (Respectively) meaning that Patron sets for Stalkers already have 5 powers. Infact the only Villain Patron set that does not have 5 powers is Mu Mastery on Brutes.
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Originally Posted by leo_g
it's not even the fact that we're getting 1 power added to our patron/epics (which most likely will be conserve power for 2 sets for stalkers) while scrappers get a whole new epic (blaze mastery).
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Although it does suck now, they'll switch it for everyone at some point.
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Originally Posted by Frosticus
"During testing, we realized that Energize came too late in the lifetime of a character to truly be useful, so for the new versions of the powerset, we swapped the progression of Lightning Reflexes and Energize (Brutes and Stalkers do not get this advantage, unfortunately)."
Does that statement read as funny (ie a complete joke) as it does to me? ... It comes too late to be useful, but tough sh*t stalkers and brutes lol |
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It's not the fact that scrappers get 2 sets proliferated while we get one.
It's not that they get a cool tintable powerset that has effects, animations and playstyle unlike any sets they already have while we get a (for the most part) reanimated 'Ninja Blade'.
It's not that they get an updated electric armor that switches Energize up to Lightning Reflexes spot (bringing their self-heal up by lvl 26 I believe) while we "don't get that advantage, unfortunately".
It's not even the fact that we're getting 1 power added to our patron/epics (which most likely will be conserve power for 2 sets for stalkers) while Scrappers get a whole new epic (Blaze Mastery).
It's ALL OF THE ABOVE!
Do the devs just want me to quit Stalkers and go back to Scrappers!? Cause I'll do it! I'll do it hard!