How much does it take to be "rich" these days?

Clarification: this post is not in any way a complaint about current prices, the market, ebil flippers, waa-waa I'm poor, etc. I think everything is just fine the way it is.

I'm simply looking for opinions. With the steadily increasing prices I see on the market, how much do you have to have to be considered rich? Let's face it, 10 million won't buy you what it used to.

My opinion: if you're at the point where you ready to start tuning up your toon, showing off some bling, or you just like a big fat (wallet) bulge in your spandex, you need to be approaching 10 figures.

Again, I don't feel that's good or bad, just where things are about now.

I find 10,000,000 or so to be the point at which I feel well heeled. At that level, I'm happy. I won't be purpling my warshade, but really good builds can be attained with patience and I still maintain a decent net income by crafting my recipe drops.

Rich is relative, I think I am well off but compared to other marketeers I look poor. I know people who have upwards of 10 billion influence.

i don't think even 100 million is enough to qualify as 'rich' nowadays, but that's the point at which I begin feeling that I don't have to worry about money. It's a big enough cushion that I can take a bunch out of it to give another character some starting cash, or buy another of my characters some enhancements, and not feel like I'm running myself dry. Since I don't buy the sort of enhancements that cost 5+ mil each, it's a relatively comfortable cushion.

On the other hand, if I'm not worrying about giving money to other characters, I stop worrying once they've got 10-20 million or so, because that's enough to keep them personally in enhancements their entire career given that I frankenslot by default.

If you wanted to be considered actually rich, I don't think even 1 bil is enough anymore - you can blow that entire amount on a single PvP IO. I actually don't think it's possible anymore for a single character to carry enough inf to be considered rich. The amount is probably somewhere in the 10 billion range.

For me, 10-50M would probably qualify a character as being "comfortable" in the finance department. Though I have other characters that are "very comfortable" and one that is "exponentially comfortable."

10Mil is all anyone needs to buy what they want. At that point most people can get the basics, or with a bit of time make the $$ they need to buy the big priced item.

I consider 100M+ to be rich, although once I hit 4-6M I feel I'm wealthy enough to start focusing some of my funds on pimping my toon. I can spend a portion while still using the rest to grow my wealth.

RagManX

For the account or for each toon?

I dump 100M on each starter toon I make just to have "walking around" cash. That feels like "enough" until I start getting into the real shinies (which, unfortunately includes the Kin Combat set these days), but then I have huge stocks on most shinies in my SG bins so it's not like I even need the cash for those. Still, it doesn't *feel* rich at that level though since I in fact can't buy all those shines yourself. 1B is definitely rich, even if you can't fully purp out your toon for that amount any more.

For the account, AE seemed to have made making money trivial for ppl who didn't like playing market games (and made more productive those who did). I don't think 1B is that big a barrier any more, is it? 10B+ for the account's gotta be a lot more common that it used to be too--I remember there were only like 3 of us (at least who'd admit to it) about a year or so ago. I will say, on a relative scale, I don't feel as "rich" as I used to, though I have far more "assets" along w/my liquid inf that back then. It's also a matter of choice since I've more or less retired from marketing (and I hate farming). If I need another billion or 10, I know where to get it.

I feel 'rich' when I have enough to get what I want with a surplus.

This can be as little as a million or so for characters I'm just going to slot with generics.

The Goat is sitting on 800 million this morning and he doesn't feel 'rich' because there's still a buy a bunch of super expensive stuff I need to buy him.

So, it's all relative.

I guess at this point I'm rich, by most people's standards, but I still don't feel rich. I think I'll feel rich when I can pick up a full purple set for a given character and not have it take most of the money I have, or at least all I have on my main toon for that server.

But I certainly feel well-to-do. I was able to *mostly* outfit one of my newer toons this weekend... still waiting on some bids, but I spent several hundred million I think. No purples, but some expensive IOs otherwise. That made a bit of a dent in my richest character, between that and a few other things I dropped from nearly 1.6 billion to almost not being a billionaire anymore. ^_^

My goal is to have a billionaire on every server/market I play on -- Freedom Heroes, Virtue Heroes & Villains, Victory Heroes, and also Infinity Heroes even though I hardly play there.

Rich is relative... Once i start a toon and get to around 50 million then I consider that toon rich, (I remember waaaaaaaaay back in the day when my first toon, my Stoner had 10 million and I though wow what am i gona do with all this money...lol).

I have some very expensive builds but they were made over time. So my 50 million per toon may not seem rich at all

"I'm rich! I'm wealthy! Yahoo! I'm comfortably well off!"
-D. Duck

I set the "comfortably well off" line at 10 million and "rich!" at around 200 million.

Half a billion is banksta money (LINK IS NSFW FOR TEXT) .

Another vote for "relative".

Mayhem:

I'd definitely recommend waiting on any build that involves purples. I'm expecting the new mission settings to lure most/all of the farmers out of MA, resulting in a (relative) flood of purple recipes.

That's why the Goat is so loaded right now- I pulled all my purple bids, sold the recipes I was holding and am waiting to buy them back at a discount once I16 lands.

Character 1: Cap + 20-50 million
Character 2: Cap + 500 million
Character 3: Cap
Character 4: 1.8 billion
Character 5: Around 600 million
Character 6: Around 350 million
Character 7: Around 300 million
Character 8: Around 225 million

The ones that feel rich? 1, 7 and 8.

Character 1 because she has just about everything I want for her. 7 and 8, because they're not even out of the 30s yet.

The others, however, still need to be IOed out with the bestest shinies. 2 and 5 are going to be particularly expensive in that regard. 4 is also going to be rough, 'cuz she has 2 builds to outfit.

I'm waiting til after I16 to launch into my buying sprees.

Rich means having wealth or great possessions. That "great" means it's relative to everyone else. Inf is a good indicator. I'd say someone with under 10M Inf on a level 50 character is poor, as they can buy just enough to slot out their char with SOs or a little better. I'd say 100M is middle class, able to buy common IOs and some set IOs. It takes probably around 300M on a single char to get into the lower end of the upper class (rich), where you can start buying the good stuff. But just like in RL, rich can cover a VERY wide range. Someone with a billion Inf is rich enough to buy almost anything, but not fully load up on the expensive PvP and purple sets. It takes several billion on a single char to be at the top end of the wealth distribution curve.

Rich is also a moving target, because remember that it's relative. A while ago, 100M was considered rich. If 20% of the player base is doing boss farms in the AE and wisely spending their tickets, soon they will be the rich ones. But if 90% of the player base is doing boss farms, then they are all middle class, and you have to do something special to rise above them. I'm guessing we're closer to 90% than 20%.

Agreed with the relative thing, but I feel pretty good accountwide at 500mil. I can buy just about anything but PvP/Purple sets, including all the procs which make my toons far more enjoyable (PS, Num, Miracle) or playable (like my Dark/Stone tank).

I used to feel alot richer, until I respec'ed my blaster and sold 10 enhancements for 900million that I probably bought for only a little over 100million when I first made the build. That's when I really realized that since I haven't been marketing as much, my worth has greatly decreased. But since the toons already at 50 are spec'ed how I want them, I still feel relatively rich until my new favorite toon needs/wants a billion dollar build...