Foot Stomp Bug


Acemace

 

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For a while now I've been noticing that it seems like every once in a while, one of my Foot Stomp targets just doesn't get affected by the power. No hit, no miss, no damage, no effect whatsoever. I finally got around to setting up a log of my combat and confirmed it.

In each case, the combat log records that the Foot Stomp hit a target but that no effect was applied. Coincidentally, both happen to be Behemoth Overlords though I've seen it happen with other critters. They were also both the critters that I had actively targeted at the time, which may be a coincidence or not.

I /bugged it in-game but I couldn't put my log excerpt in the bug report, so I'm posting here. Hopefully, my SS bretheren out there will keep an eye out for this and confirm and /bug it if they see it.

Following are from two separate engagements, unedited except for readability:

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Readying Foot Stomp.
You activated the Foot Stomp power.
HIT Behemoth Overlord! Your Foot Stomp power had a 95.00%% chance to hit, you rolled a 92.68.
HIT Ice Thorn Caster! Your Foot Stomp power had a 95.00%% chance to hit, you rolled a 62.03.
Haymaker is recharged.
You shake the very earth with your Foot Stomp, dealing 109.79 points of smashing Damage to Ice Thorn Caster.
Laser Beam Eyes is recharged.
You activated the Haymaker power.
HIT Behemoth Overlord! Your Haymaker power had a 95.00%% chance to hit, you rolled a 32.58.
You pulverize Behemoth Overlord with your Haymaker for 166.84 points of smashing damage!
Knockout Blow is recharged.
Haymaker is recharged.
Foot Stomp is recharged.

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You activated the Foot Stomp power.
HIT Behemoth Overlord! Your Foot Stomp power had a 95.00%% chance to hit, you rolled a 61.63.
HIT Ice Thorn Caster! Your Foot Stomp power had a 95.00%% chance to hit, you rolled a 89.90.
HIT Guide! Your Foot Stomp power had a 95.00%% chance to hit, you rolled a 47.78.
Ice Thorn Caster MISSES! Chilblain power had a 26.44%% chance to hit, but rolled a 49.33.
You shake the very earth with your Foot Stomp, dealing 162.52 points of smashing Damage to Guide.
You shake the very earth with your Foot Stomp, dealing 123.51 points of smashing Damage to Ice Thorn Caster.
Readying Haymaker.

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It's very easy and quick for people to ask "Was it during the rage crash?" in which case no real (okay worth having) damage is to be expected. I have found exactly the same thing outside of a rage crash and not just with footstomp. I send a report about it from RWZ. It's probably known and queued.

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Originally Posted by Shannon_EU View Post
It's very easy and quick for people to ask "Was it during the rage crash?" in which case no damage is to be expected. I have found exactly the same thing outside of a rage crash and not just with footstomp. I send a report about it from RWZ. It's probably known and queued.
Well, he did damage to at least one target with Foot Stomp, and the damage wouldn't change between targets. At any rate, since the damage floor is 10%, he should have done at at least ~6 dmg during the crash.

I haven't played my Ice/SS Tank in a while, but I'll have to keep an eye out for this next time I do.


 

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Oh wow so it is a bug, I just thought I was having some bad luck or something. Yeah at times my FS wouldn't hit at all in a huge mob. I'm glad you found this out. Next time it happens I'll send a report.

One question is this only happening to you in AE? if you run AE lol or is it all around.

I ask because oil slick is only bugged in AE so it might be on the same line



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If you think you can repeat this predictably or by doing it over and over for a while, demorecord it and send the demorecord directly to Castle and perhaps Phosyb.


 

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Originally Posted by Volkz View Post
Oh wow so it is a bug, I just thought I was having some bad luck or something. Yeah at times my FS wouldn't hit at all in a huge mob. I'm glad you found this out. Next time it happens I'll send a report.

One question is this only happening to you in AE? if you run AE lol or is it all around.

I ask because oil slick is only bugged in AE so it might be on the same line
There may be another explanation for what you are experiencing. Sometimes there may be minor lag between the server and you when you press Foot Stomp while moving. On your screen you may be in the middle of the spawn of enemies. On the server you may be just outside of it. Your character Foot Stomps in the middle on your screen but not inside on the server. No hits nor damage occur because you aren't actually near any enemies. Occasionally you may notice that you hit the "front" of the pack, but not the back while in the middle.

This may or may not be what is occurring to you. The difference with the original post is that his Foot Stomp is doing something to the enemy in the combat log. In lag situations there'd be no hit checks.


 

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I think Smurphy hit the nail on the head.

I've seen this happen to both my foot stomp and my shield charge, both in and outside of AE. It usually happens when there is some lag going on. I'll see the enemies get knocked down but it won't display any damage. I just assumed it was from lag myself. I've seen it happen with Knockout Blow too.


 

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That doesn't quite make sense, though, as the game is recording a hit but no damage. If it's not hitting due to lag, shouldn't the game not register it at all? Maybe I'm misunderstanding how it works, but the game saying there was a hit and then not having damage land seems to be a glitch, not lag.


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Originally Posted by Grey_Pilgrim View Post
That doesn't quite make sense, though, as the game is recording a hit but no damage. If it's not hitting due to lag, shouldn't the game not register it at all? Maybe I'm misunderstanding how it works, but the game saying there was a hit and then not having damage land seems to be a glitch, not lag.
I agree. I attempted to clarify the difference in my first post. I think some may think they are experiencing this bug... oddity... whatever... but are experiencing lag. I think the OP is not experiencing the lag I described.


 

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Just for the record, I was doing radio missions using indoor office maps for the above examples. I was in the middle of the spawn group and not moving and for sure the critters were within my melee range. The critters were ground-bound; one was flat on his back from knockdown at the time.

I'm also certain this is not lag-related. I've seen lag cause wonky combat behavior before but it usually reconciles when the client and server sync back up. In this case, the targets are just plain unaffected. I've been watching carefully since I first suspected it. When lag causes a delay, the target usually suffers belated knockdown and damage. In this case, none is happening at all.

I can't reliably make it happen and it doesn't always occur. But it does seem to be somewhat regular so I may try the demorecord and see how it comes out.


 

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There is a cap to all AoEs in the game


 

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Originally Posted by Neeto View Post
There is a cap to all AoEs in the game
I'm getting the bug when soloing, no more than 6 targets at a time and usually 2-4. My posted logs were for 2 and 3 targets respectively. Capping the attack is not an issue.


 

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I had the same experience with Crowd Control from Warmace on my SD/WM Tanker. I always thought it was lag. Have to test it further. I did not pay attention if it did damage, but it certainly did not knock them down.


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With the powers I see knock up but no damage taken outside of the rage crash.


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I understand what smurphy is saying because I do these types when wanting to have fun (when hit with SB) or just because it really is lag I can tell. But the times when it happens the enemies are swinging and hitting but the stomp acts as of nothing was there. I'm not sayin it happens all the time but it has a few times and sometimes back to back. But like Stars mentioned a demorecord would be helpfully but difficult xD



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Originally Posted by Smurphy View Post
There may be another explanation for what you are experiencing. Sometimes there may be minor lag between the server and you when you press Foot Stomp while moving. On your screen you may be in the middle of the spawn of enemies. On the server you may be just outside of it. Your character Foot Stomps in the middle on your screen but not inside on the server. No hits nor damage occur because you aren't actually near any enemies. Occasionally you may notice that you hit the "front" of the pack, but not the back while in the middle.

This may or may not be what is occurring to you. The difference with the original post is that his Foot Stomp is doing something to the enemy in the combat log. In lag situations there'd be no hit checks.
I had this happen earlier this morning, on a stationary target.

This looks like something that happened when they introduced gauntlet and the ability to hit fleeing targets with melee attacks. For some reason, you could chase a fleeing target all day and your attacks wouldn't do anything - they'd fire, but no hit or miss.

In this case, it seems to not be related to movement, but it reminds me of that.


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I've seen this same thing occur as well and just chalked it up to bad luck because normally it happens so rarely. I've also seen it with Shield Charge. No knockdown just a "wtf" reaction from me when this happens. I'll be watching for it more often.


 

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Originally Posted by Starjammer View Post

I can't reliably make it happen and it doesn't always occur.

Does it occur more regularly when JD is in the room?


I have nothing else constructive to add, except maybe it's the agro cap. =T






 

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I have seen this as well. I tend to solo against large groups so I assumed it was AoE cap. I will double check against smaller groups and see if I get the same effect.


 

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Originally Posted by Acemace View Post
Does it occur more regularly when JD is in the room?


I have nothing else constructive to add, except maybe it's the agro cap. =T
I should add that I've seen it happen against one of three mobs in the AOE.

I haven't been paying attention since, though. I've been fighting larger groups and it's hard to tell if it's not firing when you have 8 whatevers trying to punch you in the face.


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