Hi,
I am not sure if you can use it as a compass to set waypoints, but the wise heads will hopefully sort that out for you.
I think the co-ordinates are more a Dev tool thing that we get to use as an offshoot.
I have used it a lot when badge hunting especially in zones still covered by the fog of war (blacked out) as their locations are all published in the Wiki and Badgehunters sites.
Also now we get notices of GM's spawning in zones we can use it in chat to let other players know roughly where in zone it is.
The hardest thing is getting used to which direction the 3 coordinates refer to and each zone uses a completely different set of figures so it is confusing for less experienced users to get a handle on.
One tip is to remember that if you are having trouble finding a mission entrance but you are sure you are at the spot is to check the middle coordinate. This gives your height and can indicate that the door may be below you or you may be below it!
Hope this makes some sense
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You have it exactly right - all it does is show your current location at the time it is used.
There is no way to make it continuously update, nor to set a waypoint.
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The hardest thing is getting used to which direction the 3 coordinates refer to
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The bigger the number is, the more West, Up, or South you are. Smaller (or more negative) numbers are more East, Down or North.
0, 0, 0 is the center of the zone.
thanks for the info, i was afraid it wasn't usable like it is in swg and i guess i was right. Oh well, Great info on the W. U. S. thing, i had figured it was more of a EUN layout.
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minor threadjack here, nice to read you again Roderick but how come you switched names?
It is a shame you lost your old forum count and title with the switch
Anyway welcome back to the new you
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Or, for those familiar with a Cartesian coordinate system of (x,y,z), the /loc system is (-x,z,-y) when looking at your mini-map.|
Originally Posted by Roderick
W.U.S.
The bigger the number is, the more West, Up, or South you are. Smaller (or more negative) numbers are more East, Down or North. 0, 0, 0 is the center of the zone. |
Yes, I make that translation in my head... I'm a math geek.
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lol nice post ZM, now if only I could find out where I left my glasses
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East=Least (West is best!) , Down=lower, North=Negative
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Just so you know, a lot of us don't find the command unusable... We use it a lot for setting up shots to make videos, not to mention noting specific locations for badges, contacts, and any other miscellanea that are static and people might want to find.|
Originally Posted by pyhrra
thanks for the info, i was afraid it wasn't usable like it is in swg and i guess i was right. Oh well, Great info on the W. U. S. thing, i had figured it was more of a EUN layout.
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Can it be improved upon? Sure.. But it's hardly unusable.
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Paragonwiki has a good page for explaining such things...
Yeah... I have it sketched out on a little notepad... along with special keybinds, emotes and such that I want for quick reference.
I use it when searching for badges when I can't find them on my vidiotmap. The P-wiki pages will often give co-ordinates for them.
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Originally Posted by jacktar
Hi Guys,
minor threadjack here, nice to read you again Roderick but how come you switched names? It is a shame you lost your old forum count and title with the switch Anyway welcome back to the new you Cheers |
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Originally Posted by pyhrra
Can anyone explain to me how to use this command effectively. As far as I can tell, all it does is tell you where you are at the moment it is used. Is it possible to have it find a specific location for you, sort of like a waypoint to venture to? Thanks for any info, correct or otherwise
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This will give you a way point to use.
But there's no direct way to connect that thumbtack to a /loc
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No. /loc's only function is to tell you your exact position on a map. It's mostly useful for bug reports and telling others where something is.|
Originally Posted by pyhrra
Can anyone explain to me how to use this command effectively. As far as I can tell, all it does is tell you where you are at the moment it is used. Is it possible to have it find a specific location for you, sort of like a waypoint to venture to? Thanks for any info, correct or otherwise
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About 5 years i used a command that continually displayed a character's current coordinates in the corner. Now i don't remember what the command was.
Anyway, AFAIK there's no way to set a waypoint by inputting the coordinates.
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Where it does come in handy is for checking your relative position to a known object such as a plaque or badge. Lot's of sites list these items with their map coordinates.
So if you're after one you can /loc yourself and see whether you need to move N, S, E, W, up, down. To get my bearings, I usually have to set my nav pointer in one direction such as N, move a few feet and see which way the /loc numbers changed.
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If you're intending to find a Explore badge in a dangerous zone (high-level, PvP, etc.)
try this:
/Bind L Loc
Then move about a safer zone, tapping the button repeatedly until you have a good feel for navigating by this instrument.
Then enter the dangerous zone and proceed.
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Please note that 0,0,0 may not be the CENTER OF THE MAP...meaning, it may not be halfway down the map and halfway across. For instance, IIRC Nerva's 0,0,0 is way off in the upper left.
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Originally Posted by Roderick
W.U.S.
The bigger the number is, the more West, Up, or South you are. Smaller (or more negative) numbers are more East, Down or North. 0, 0, 0 is the center of the zone. |
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Or, for those familiar with a Cartesian coordinate system of (x,y,z), the /loc system is (-x,z,-y) when looking at your mini-map.
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In fact, the /loc coordinates do in fact reflect (x, y, z) coordinates, the coordinate system is just one with a vertical Y. If your camera's PYR is set to zero, then you're facing South. Y increases upwards along your screen, X increases to your right (West), and Z increases into your screen (South)
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I'm a math geek.
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(Of course, those axis directions means they're also using a left hand rule, rather than right hand rule... X is going in the wrong direction)
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Except every math or physics professor I've been taught by will tell you that Y is up/down, just like it is in-game
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This is why the axes are laid out like they are. If your character is facing north, the camera is facing south. If you think of your monitor as a Cartesian plane, that means that to the camera, the x-axis goes from left to right, the y-axis goes from the bottom of the screen up, and the z-axis goes "into" your monitor.|
Originally Posted by Fleeting_Whisper
Except every math or physics professor I've been taught by will tell you that Y is up/down, just like it is in-game
In fact, the /loc coordinates do in fact reflect (x, y, z) coordinates, the coordinate system is just one with a vertical Y. If your camera's PYR is set to zero, then you're facing South. Y increases upwards along your screen, X increases to your right (West), and Z increases into your screen (South) I'm a computer geek (Of course, those axis directions means they're also using a left hand rule, rather than right hand rule... X is going in the wrong direction) |
I created a picture a while back to make sense of it all. The character in the picture below is facing north, which means that the camera is facing south. The axes are set with a reference for how stuff is drawn on the screen.
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Paragonwiki has a good page for explaining such things...
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No problem TonyV. It's a good article and very clearly written. It was helpful to me when I found it and I like to spread the resources to those that may need it.
Can anyone explain to me how to use this command effectively. As far as I can tell, all it does is tell you where you are at the moment it is used. Is it possible to have it find a specific location for you, sort of like a waypoint to venture to? Thanks for any info, correct or otherwise