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So now we are merged perhaps one of the most common complaints that we are overlooked and the developers do not pay attention to the EU & UK players will be disappearing? I was wondering, maybe a thread like this would be a good idea to post ideas or messages to the developers where they are now more likely to be seen (and maybe even issues brought up get replied to sometimes like it's been done on the US forums since forever? :) [3,401 since 20th April 2007])

It would be really cool if we got the same kind of interaction and I think we should give it a chance Maybe start up a separate costume ideas thread if it gets busy


 

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I for one would like to know if the base editing system will be improved without removing the stacking/no clipping of item placement (Which has resulted in some absolutely stunning bases) and if we'll get new objects added any time soon. It's only been 10 issues or so since we got them.


 

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Pleeese SEXYJAY or anyone, give option for us to have the texture used on ghost widow on outfits: http://tinyurl.com/covtexture
I think it's the same one used on Arachnos widow/soldier outfits too, but it would be nice if just the texture was available for other characters, e.g. you have smooth and sleek (which is like "shiny lite") already, add "shiny"

It would be cool if the new power customisation lets you disable special effects and not just change the colours: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...cts#post366082 super reflexes is a major culprit this really, it's very suitable for Natural origin characters but has loads of extra shiny effects for no real reason other than I guess to make the warcrap people feel more at home


 

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I for one would like a dev to explain why hero epic AT's aren't going to be included in the i16 colour customisation.

And I'm not interested in "IC" reasons, because they're just an artificial reason that can be applied equally to every single AT in the game, so that's not going to wash.

A valid and logical reason why not, if you please.


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I was wondering, maybe a thread like this would be a good idea to post ideas or messages to the developers where they are now more likely to be seen

It would be really cool if we got the same kind of interaction and I think we should give it a chance Maybe start up a separate costume ideas thread if it gets busy
Sorry deathkitten but I think this is an appalling idea if we're looking to be heard.


Sticking lots of ideas from EU players in a seperate thread just means that:
  • The thread becomes unfocused as more ideas (and possibly conflicting ideas) are added.
  • The devs have to come and visit a part of the forum that they don't usually get ideas/suggestions from in order to see any of the ideas in this thread.
  • It almost appears to say that our ideas are special and need their own area/thread...
I don't want special treatment for EU suggestions/questions - just parity.

And the best way to achieve that is open to us: Just post suggestions/ideas/comments in exactly the same places that the non-EU posters do.

A seperate thread here, in the EU lounge, does not serve to help get ideas/messages to the devs. All I can see it doing is becoming a potential focus for any feelings of being ignored that still remain.

e.g. in a few months time people may congregate here to say 'but I put the idea on the EU suggestions thread month ago and the devs still haven't done it - they never listen to us EU players'.


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If you have issues specific to the Euro region, post it here. Otherwise post it in the relevant section of the forum else you defeat the purpose of the merger.


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So now we are merged perhaps one of the most common complaints that we are overlooked and the developers do not pay attention to the EU & UK players will be disappearing? I was wondering, maybe a thread like this would be a good idea to post ideas or messages to the developers where they are now more likely to be seen (and maybe even issues brought up get replied to sometimes like it's been done on the US forums since forever? :) [3,401 since 20th April 2007])

It would be really cool if we got the same kind of interaction and I think we should give it a chance Maybe start up a separate costume ideas thread if it gets busy
But thats the whole point of this forum merge, now ALL players have an equal chance of having direct contact with a dev.

If we have seperate ideas threads for various regions then it defeats the entire purpose of the merger.


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I for one would like a dev to explain why hero epic AT's aren't going to be included in the i16 colour customisation.

And I'm not interested in "IC" reasons, because they're just an artificial reason that can be applied equally to every single AT in the game, so that's not going to wash.

A valid and logical reason why not, if you please.
You know as much as anybody that there can be no logical non-IC reason for such a thing. The reason why they are not included are written in the CoH lore and they are IC if anything.
But, actually, the IC reasons that apply to Kheldians can not be applied to every single AT in the game. For your blaster, your tanker, your dominator and whatever you decide where their powers come from and how they work. Therefore, if you decide that their fire attacks should be green there is nobody who can claim that they should not.
But Kheldians come in a package that includes racial background and origin of powers. Their natural powers are bright white and when they scientifically alter their very being their powers turn to a darkish purple. No Nictus chose to be purple rather than white, it was just a side effect of their transmutation.
Apart from becoming Nictus there is nothing Kheldians can do about the appearance of their powers, just like we can not change the colour of our blood.
As much as I would like to see a return of the blood-red Nova of early Void Hunter days it is a bit problematic for IC reasons.
Of course you could claim that your Kheldian has invented some kind of device that [insert effect here] and has the side effect of tinting your powers in a hot pink, but assuming that every other Kheldian must have invented a similar device because there are Kheldians in all colours of the rainbow around the place is a bit of a stretch to say the least.




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Perhaps a better reason for lack of Kheldian shading is simply that they don't have enough time before I16 and it'll come along at the same time as all the power pools are done.

Sounds logical to me.


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Perhaps a better reason for lack of Kheldian shading is simply that they don't have enough time before I16 and it'll come along at the same time as all the power pools are done.

Sounds logical to me.
That's a more logical and acceptible reason. Any IC reason isn't as I can think my way around it in a hot second, or a cold one.


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That's a more logical and acceptible reason. Any IC reason isn't as I can think my way around it in a hot second, or a cold one.
Perhaps the Kheldian leaders have issued a decree to all Kheldians that you must maintain your pure forms (Light/Purple) in order to maintain racial purity.

Every Kheldian is terrified to disobey the decree from upon high on threat of death or forced separation.

Gradually, as time goes on (and Kheldians get customisation), a resistance movement grows up against this decree and Kheldians start to protest against the incredibly wrong command.

(Kheldian Civil War - coming in Issue 18!)

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Perhaps the Kheldian leaders have issued a decree to all Kheldians that you must maintain your pure forms (Light/Purple) in order to maintain racial purity.

Every Kheldian is terrified to disobey the decree from upon high on threat of death or forced separation.

Gradually, as time goes on (and Kheldians get customisation), a resistance movement grows up against this decree and Kheldians start to protest against the incredibly wrong command.

(Kheldian Civil War - coming in Issue 18!)

You heard it here first! (And last, most likely)
Pff. Ellie's already a maverick and doesn't take any notice of Sunstorm any more. They've done enough to her in the last 4 years that she can't STAND a large number of them.

So the chances of her listening to that, especially when she's not exactly "pure" anyway, are zero.


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Pff. Ellie's already a maverick and doesn't take any notice of Sunstorm any more. They've done enough to her in the last 4 years that she can't STAND a large number of them.

So the chances of her listening to that, especially when she's not exactly "pure" anyway, are zero.
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Bloody well won't, you know! As an RPer, I and many others already ignore half the game canon anyway, as loads of it is just non-sensical junk.


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Bloody well won't, you know! As an RPer, I and many others already ignore half the game canon anyway, as loads of it is just non-sensical junk.
But will you still be able to ignore it if you get shovelled into the Coming Storms fuel tank?


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Bloody well won't, you know! As an RPer, I and many others already ignore half the game canon anyway, as loads of it is just non-sensical junk.
What? You mean your plant/thermal controller doesn't have it's power because some brainiac found a way to make it possible for heros to obtain certain powers associated with evil?


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But will you still be able to ignore it if you get shovelled into the Coming Storms fuel tank?
She refuses to believe that "happened", and thinks Twilight's Son is off his gourd. He won't even assume his native form! Just sits there, pretending to be a squid!

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What? You mean your plant/thermal controller doesn't have it's power because some brainiac found a way to make it possible for heros to obtain certain powers associated with evil?
Damn right!

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So now we are merged perhaps one of the most common complaints that we are overlooked and the developers do not pay attention to the EU & UK players will be disappearing? I was wondering, maybe a thread like this would be a good idea to post ideas or messages to the developers where they are now more likely to be seen (and maybe even issues brought up get replied to sometimes like it's been done on the US forums since forever? :) [3,401 since 20th April 2007])

It would be really cool if we got the same kind of interaction and I think we should give it a chance Maybe start up a separate costume ideas thread if it gets busy
Let me help a little. Developers' Corner is where the official thread for suggestions to Sexy Jay is located. It's huge, but don't let that bother you too much, he keeps up reading it and sometimes even posts in it.

There's some other threads there that are interesting as well. Jump in, y'all are here so the section isn't just US anymore, right?

There's a couple of threads in the Base Construction section specifically for gathering ideas for the devs pertaining to bases.

And there's a few stickied threads in Suggestions that y'all might want to add to, but before starting a new thread, prepare yourself. That section scares me almost as much as the AT specific areas.

Once the Dev Digest and the Community Digest (in the Developers' Corner) are working again, y'all can stalk the devs just as well as the rest of us. It's fun!

Jump in, jump around, have fun. Oh, if you really want to break your mind or spam your post count, there's always the Games section.



(ps - intention here is for anyone who hasn't left the EU Lounge yet)


 

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I'd like to ask the Devs when we might be getting some new map tilesets and layouts, in the hope that some of them could be retroactively applied to existing content. New powersets are always nice, as are new zones with new contacts offering Dev-created content (remember when we used to get those in issues? ). But I dare say that most players spend most of their time inside instances looking at the same decor we've been looking at for the majority of the last 4-5 years.

I need some new areas to play in. Heck, in the interim I'd settle for some art re-skins of the existing lab, office, warehouse, cave, etc maps (style selected randomly upon zoning in from several choices) so that at least the maps would look different on the surface, even though we'd still know the layouts of the rooms (and likely the whole map, in most cases) off by heart.

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But thats the whole point of this forum merge, now ALL players have an equal chance of having direct contact with a dev.

If we have seperate ideas threads for various regions then it defeats the entire purpose of the merger.
Damz, you're being logical - are you feeling ill?


 

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That's really helpful Lady Athyna thanks - it is a bit intimidating the sheer amount of forums and posts yeah, and I think you are right Judgmement_Dave, I was a little tired last night/early morning when I decided to check the "new" forum and I should have probably thought about it more


 

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That's really helpful Lady Athyna thanks - it is a bit intimidating the sheer amount of forums and posts yeah, and I think you are right Judgmement_Dave, I was a little tired last night/early morning when I decided to check the "new" forum and I should have probably thought about it more
Hope so, just jump in. It's your forum as much as ours now, right?


 

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I for one would like a dev to explain why hero epic AT's aren't going to be included in the i16 colour customisation.

And I'm not interested in "IC" reasons, because they're just an artificial reason that can be applied equally to every single AT in the game, so that's not going to wash.

A valid and logical reason why not, if you please.
I think this actually has something to do with Nova and Dwarf forms. If they work like Granite armour then any colour change would make them stick out like a sore thumb.

Not sure how they're managing to customise Stone Armour with Granite being static, unless the palette is heavily restricted.


 

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Here is something I intended to take up two weeks ago on the forums upon returning as soon as I noticed it was still there.

Before I left I7 introduced something to endurance which meant alot of ATs even ones who didnt have endurance problems now ran out and broke down faster than an old Russian Plastic car.

I was under the impression this was a bug. But as my character which was pretty much a copy of my old MA scrapper barring he is now Will and not regen is constantly having to stop years later. I see no possible locgical reason for this. The stock answer is balance of course. But what is it balancing? All I am doing is taking longer to complete a mission and spending a fortune on blue insps as well as hoarding my team mates. As I recall all my charcters got a whack with this but I was really suprosed scrappers have this disruption in flow.

If they cant scrap or hit things they cant do anything. I am not that suprosed other ATs had the issue particularly support characters. Although as I say thye all got this end use hike and I think it went way too far. But I guess I would like at least an explanation if I cant convice a change.


 

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Hope so, just jump in. It's your forum as much as ours now, right?
Something I forgot but just remembered. Apologies and all that. Anyway, feel free to PM the devs about stuff if y'all want. Not en masse or anything, but for the most part, they'll read and answer (if they can).

I wasn't sure if y'all could PM them prior to our merging but figured it couldn't hurt to throw that out now that we're all in the same playground.

Edit - Oh, another thing I forgot but just remembered!

If you've got a chance, please peruse this thread. It's been a favorite of several NA folk for a while now and... well... if you just read the OP's posts in it you'll see why.


 

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Something I forgot but just remembered. Apologies and all that. Anyway, feel free to PM the devs about stuff if y'all want. Not en masse or anything, but for the most part, they'll read and answer (if they can).

I wasn't sure if y'all could PM them prior to our merging but figured it couldn't hurt to throw that out now that we're all in the same playground.
About 3 or 4 devs used to have EU accounts, but only turned up to even read the boards once every blue moon. Most of the dev accounts were also set to not receive PMs. So even trying a PM was pointless.

WarWitch was the best at EU participation, although that seemed to be mainly clustered around the times she was popping over to the EU or the EU test server.

It is one of the best parts of the merger that we all have the ability to PM devs. I just didn't mention it earlier in this thread just-in-case it causes the devs to get a deluge of PMs...

Through (loosely) following the US boards for a couple of years I do get the impression that, as you say, the devs usually try to answer. And I know one EU player has had a PM from one in the first few days of the merger.
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Edit - Oh, another thing I forgot but just remembered!

If you've got a chance, please peruse this thread. It's been a favorite of several NA folk for a while now and... well... if you just read the OP's posts in it you'll see why.
Even though we've not been able to post in the thread, this has had a few mentions EU-side and I know a few people have been keeping abreast of Sister Flame's progress for a while now.

A great, uplifting thread that's worth mentioning again.


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