Powerset: Stretchiness

I'm not a number cruncher, so i'll leave the more expert players to fill in the blanks about damage and buffs etc.

The idea is, it's a melee powerset, but could also be a corruptor melee set (due to the long range)

Here goes:

Spring smash: You use your GOD DAMN SPRINGY ARMS to stretch them out, and SMACK THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS out of whatever's in your path. Long range melee move! basic power

Rubbery roundhouse: A long range, mid power roundhouse kick that even Chuck Norris himself would be proud of.

Constriction: You can coil your rubbery body around any opponent, doing damage over time! If this isn't possible to implement ingame, just make it so that the player shoots rubber which coils around the enemy.

Elastin body slam: You use your stretchy legs to shoot yourself up into the sky, and do a BRAIN SPLATTERING BODY SLAM onto your unsuspecting opponents below, so anything caught under your landing will be included in the damage.

Lissom lashing: You coil your elastic arms around an opponent, lift them up into the air and repeatedly smash them into the floor and nearby walls multiple times. Or if this isn't possible to implement ingame, you just repeatedly smack your opponent with you arms.

Bouncy blast: You curl up into a ball, and GOD DAMN HURL YOURSELF A THE SPEED OF SOMETHING FAST into a target, doing damage.

Rebound: You become impossible to knock over or stun, hold or any of that stuff. You can bounce back instantly from any attack no matter how strong, your recharge rate, recovery and regen are all improved, and afterwards you get the usual debuff associated with such moves (rage, elude, strength of will etc)

Self seal: Due to you being stretchy, you can close up any wounds in you exceedingly quickly, just like self-sealing tires when they get shot. This is a heal!

Ionic bonding: compounds with ionic bonds have far higher tensile strength, however are NOT flexible. This move increases your damage and ToHit for a duration, however slows you down as well. (it's akin to build up, etc)

lol for real?

its a cool and unique power set request, however its just a tad impractical Animation wise anyway (since the character themselves are the origin of the power. This uses the *character as the power itself* )

Still wouldn't say no if it was worked around

if they can ever get around this:
http://marvel.com/universe/Mister_Fantastic

I find myself (sadly...) agreeing with Sorudo. Its the same reason we can't have swinging powers in game, even if the engine could deliver. Marvel would come down like a...well, you know the rest.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

It's not like Marvel copyrighted the concept fo stretchy arms/limbs.

In the way of copyright, there's nothing they can do about it. You can't copyright a concept like strecthy limbs.

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It's not like Marvel copyrighted the concept fo stretchy arms/limbs.

In the way of copyright, there's nothing they can do about it. You can't copyright a concept like strecthy limbs.

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The lawsuit Marvel brought against CoH was basically that the character creator could be used to make copywrite infringing characters. (ie, all the Hulk and Wolverine clones running around.)

That's not the fault of NCsoft

Which is why NCSoft won. But the reason why they stopped people using the offline character creator was because it could be used to create copyright characters and they would have no control over its use.

Swinging powerset has been said in the past that the engine won't support it. And TBH I expect the same is true for a stretchy powerset. Unless you want animations that look like Dalasim from street fighter...

I also suspect that certain powersets will be avoided because they're too specific, eg a powerset that used a lot of teleport moves (Nightcrawler-esq) would probably not be added, not perhaps because of the link to Nightcrawler but because the set would be very much an almost signature set. Yes super strength could be super man but it could also be 100 other hero types. (IMO)

I see your point x)

Offline creator was disabled for the greater good, and isn't it about time the game engine of COV was revamped and updated to keep up with the latest games?

The average MMO costs around $20 million to develop.

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if they can ever get around this:
http://marvel.com/universe/Mister_Fantastic

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Dhalsim, anyone?
Plastic Man?
Throw in Stretch Armstrong if toys count as an example!

Marvel wouldn't have a legal leg to stand on, especially after their past attempt.

I would like nothing better than for Marvel to pull out of the sucky lock it has NCSoft in, but atm I doubt it will happen. Marvel is, frankly, Huge. Given the current economics, NC cant afford the risk of a legal battle. If they lost, not only would they be nowhere, but they could well be close to breaking point.

This is purely speculation on my part, of course.
And, Razor, they cant revamp the engine for the game as we know it without, bascially, making a CoX2. Which isnt yet on the books, afawk, since they have up to I18 planned (Statement by Positron). They have said that the engine can be pushed further than expected, which we may see.

So, myeah.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Well that's a design choice by positron. Do you know how many games get scrapped, and have elements of design completely removed before being changed?

Positron could just scrap all his plans for up to i18 and call for an engine revamp if he wish i guess.

And also, as i stated before, i don't really care about dalsim or stretch arm strong or mister fantastic, just make it so no one can use their names ingame (input masking)

Like i said before, it's not ncsoft's fault and you can't copyright the concept of stretchy limbs.

But i still understand what you're saying.

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And also, as i stated before, i don't really care about dalsim or stretch arm strong or mister fantastic, just make it so no one can use their names ingame (input masking)

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I was using those examples to further your point that Marvel don't truly own copyright on such powers. :\

I see, but my point was that if Marvel has issues with the re-creation of their (bad) comic book characters, couldn't the companies compromise somehow?

Also, i didn't mean for ya to take it the wrong way, i just suggested a solution to the problem (i.e make it so you can't name your toon mr fantastic or something like that)

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And also, as i stated before, i don't really care about dalsim or stretch arm strong or mister fantastic, just make it so no one can use their names ingame (input masking)

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I was using those examples to further your point that Marvel don't truly own copyright on such powers. :\

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for marvel, that's not an argument, just an excuse to be right.
you can say so many things about powers like that, but marvel AND DC will sue NC for that.
and as earlier said, NC can't afford a battle against them, especially not now.

It would never happen simply because trying to tie every animation to every possible colour combination of every costume piece would be hard to say the very least.

I think the way they'd do it would be to make your clothes stay the same size, so if you made your arms like 50 feet long, they'd just be bare skin.

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I think the way they'd do it would be to make your clothes stay the same size, so if you made your arms like 50 feet long, they'd just be bare skin.

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Wouldn't work for gloves though

They could disappear to the same place weapons go to when they're not being used

With the current engine I doubt its possible.

On the copyright issue, in American law I believe there is a rule that states if you don't go out to protect your IP you can lose it. Which is why Marvel took NCSoft to courts they had to otherwise NCSoft could just turn round and steal the IP. Which is one of the reasons that copyright issues and patenting things in the US are so mad.

If/when it does become possible there are other sets that would use the same technology that would be fun. Grappling Hooks to name one that I know has been asked for.

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On the copyright issue, in American law I believe there is a rule that states if you don't go out to protect your IP you can lose it. Which is why Marvel took NCSoft to courts they had to otherwise NCSoft could just turn round and steal the IP.

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Not just NC soft if marvel failed to defend there copyright then it open the door for any one to steel it. Tho i don't think they necessarily have to win the case as long as the defend it there original copy right still stands. As soon as a company stop actively protecting there copy rights its pretty much up for grabs.

While I agree on the issue of a being Sued being a great possibility, as marvel don't care about the character they own, just that they are the only people making money from it.

I am on the side of it being plausible, saying about the colours and that making it hard is a load of drivel, DX works off vectors anyways. The only real issue is making the animations fit, in this I mean, like your hand won't go through things like players, enemies and mainly walls.

While I think the set is inspired, it is still tricky to classify as it resembles a melee character but plays from range.

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They could disappear to the same place weapons go to when they're not being used

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Since the melee powerset is your limbs in this case, they can just return to your body

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While I agree on the issue of a being Sued being a great possibility, as marvel don't care about the character they own, just that they are the only people making money from it.

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ehum...what?
they care believe me, they do.

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And also, as i stated before, i don't really care about dalsim or stretch arm strong or mister fantastic, just make it so no one can use their names ingame (input masking)

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I was using those examples to further your point that Marvel don't truly own copyright on such powers. :\

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for marvel, that's not an argument, just an excuse to be right.
you can say so many things about powers like that, but marvel AND DC will sue NC for that.
and as earlier said, NC can't afford a battle against them, especially not now.

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Breaking news: almost EVERY power in CoX has been utilised in some form by an existing copyrighted fictional character outside of NC's IP.

And I've already proven that elasticity is not a power exclusive to Marvel Comics or even DC.