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And also, as i stated before, i don't really care about dalsim or stretch arm strong or mister fantastic, just make it so no one can use their names ingame (input masking)

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I was using those examples to further your point that Marvel don't truly own copyright on such powers. :\

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for marvel, that's not an argument, just an excuse to be right.
you can say so many things about powers like that, but marvel AND DC will sue NC for that.
and as earlier said, NC can't afford a battle against them, especially not now.

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Breaking news: almost EVERY power in CoX has been utilised in some form by an existing copyrighted fictional character outside of NC's IP.

And I've already proven that elasticity is not a power exclusive to Marvel Comics or even DC.

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That's right

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I was stating before that marvel wouldn't have a problem with a law suit. What I was saying about the characters marvel own, do they really care, look at what they did with X-men, made into a bunch of poor movies that butcher old storylines. It's about the money.

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Well they have to make the movies appeal to as many people as possible. Sticking with the original storylines would attract less people than the ones they used in the films.

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It's about the money.

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Hence the concern over getting sued.

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But Marvel would have nothing to sue for. Stretchiness is not their property, only Mr Fantastic is. The power should fall under the remit of the previous ruling the same as claws/regen is. You can do it, just don't make it look like Wolverine.

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A solution

Thanks for contributing

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Sure, thats sorted.
Oh, wait, don't think the engine can do it.

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So change it

Things need updating, and i'm sure it's not out of NCsoft's financial ability to invest enough to get it done.

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No.

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No.

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How very terse. I assume you're saying no to the above post? Care to give any reasons why razor's suggestion is a bad one?

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Short Version;

There've been discussions about this before. Much though people would like it, an Engine upgrade would mean a whole game overhaul. In short, CoX2. Seeing as the devs are planning I18 and beyond, the assumption is that this is not happening. Coupled with the fact they think they can get more out of the current engine than they have been, one could surmise that they will be exploring that.
The other assumption is that the last thing on the cards is to get into (more) legal strife with Marvel. Why's, wherefores and suchnots are, simply, not ours to second guess.

Theres also the issue of Engine upgrade = people on older machines getting stuffed, which would cause all sorts of hell. And, given the economic climate, its NOT just a case of 'Well get a new PC, lolz!1', because for the most part it simply is not that easy.


And yes, thats the short version

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oh I know all that Alpha, and thankyou for contributing . I was however making a point that one word responses just dont cut it. "No, it would mean players would have to upgrade their machines" would have been good enough. but "No."... you see where I'm coming from here.

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I see your points, but i won't have sympathy for anyone running a prehistoric PC. PC technology doubles every 10 years, if you need to take out a loan to get a beasty old pc, do it. It's a worthwhile investment.

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..you see where I'm coming from here.

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No.


j/k

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if you need to take out a loan to get a beasty old pc, do it. It's a worthwhile investment.

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Getting loans, even if it's viable in many peoples cases, is easier said then done with the current downturn and banks restricting their offers. It's certainly not how they were a year or so ago when they were throwing money (that they didn't have) at people.

Personally I won't be forced to upgrade to run a game I could run previously unless it's a game I'm really into, I would, however, upgrade for a new game if necessary.

back on topic though, if it wasn't concerns with the games engine and the requirements for an overhaul, I'd be right behind a stretchy powerset.

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Sounds reasonable

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Much though people would like it, an Engine upgrade would mean a whole game overhaul. In short, CoX2.

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It could mean that an engine over haul would be CoX2, but it doesn't have to mean that. We got a graphics and engine upgrade with CoV (or around then) when the changed the engine to work with aegia physics cards and at the time there was some discussion whether such a thing was needed (it wasn't). And I think that CoX2 wouldn't be an upgrade it would in all likely hood use a new engine.

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Seeing as the devs are planning I18 and beyond, the assumption is that this is not happening. Coupled with the fact they think they can get more out of the current engine than they have been, one could surmise that they will be exploring that.

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I have no doubt that CoX1 will last a few more years yet but upgrading the engine to take advantage of the gradual improvement of peoples PCs will happen, already that game is looking dated after what five years? Graphics updated is rumoured to be coming with GR and I'd imagine that some engine upgrading will be done at the same time. But its likely to be a gradual process and take a fair amount longer than that.

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The other assumption is that the last thing on the cards is to get into (more) legal strife with Marvel. Why's, wherefores and suchnots are, simply, not ours to second guess.

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And others have pointed out unless they clone the exact powers of a Marvel Character in such a way that they are breaching Marvel's Intellectual Property (That sort of IP sorudo!) then there is no issue to answer for.

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Theres also the issue of Engine upgrade = people on older machines getting stuffed, which would cause all sorts of hell. And, given the economic climate, its NOT just a case of 'Well get a new PC, lolz!1', because for the most part it simply is not that easy.

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As I mentioned above I expect we'll see some of those type of posts when GR is released as there will be most likely a graphics update then, just as there was with CoV. We can preserve the game in aspic so that the graphics and engine remain exactly as they are now, but that would be far worse than improving the engine/graphics IMO and would probably lose more people than upgrades will.


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And yes, thats the short version

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Short is good unless its wrong.

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I see your points, but i won't have sympathy for anyone running a prehistoric PC. PC technology doubles every 10 years, if you need to take out a loan to get a beasty old pc, do it. It's a worthwhile investment.

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getting a loan for a PC just to play games is a bad idea PC hardware is still advancing at a very speedy rate if you went out to the shops the day and got the best PC money could buy it would be out of date in 6 months and with the mark up on bank loans you would be paying well over the odds for that PC and would still be paying for it for at least 6 months after it was past its best.

The only way getting a loan would be worth while would if you need a PC for your job say graphics design or something that required a good PC that way it would be contributing to its cost

A far better idea if your wanting a new PC is to get a bank account you don't use with a half decent interest rate and pay money in to it on a regular bases at least that way when you finally go by the new PC its your out right

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@LostNinja, thanks, some good points

I knew an engine upgrade isn't totally impractical at this stage

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I see your points, but i won't have sympathy for anyone running a prehistoric PC. PC technology doubles every 10 years, if you need to take out a loan to get a beasty old pc, do it. It's a worthwhile investment.

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What timescale are you running on, 5 years ago you futureproofed your machine by having 1 gig of RAM, nowdays you need at least 3 gig to have most modern games run happily.

Any hardware is obsolete before it reaches the public, fact of life I'm afraid.

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That doesn't mean you can't have a computer that will run future games. My old pc is over 2 years and can still run crysis on high settings.

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getting a loan for a PC just to play games is a bad idea

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Not always, speaking as someone who has in the past technically took out a loan to buy myself a laptop 5 years back.

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What part of "No." are you guys struggling with?

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I see your points, but i won't have sympathy for anyone running a prehistoric PC. PC technology doubles every 10 years, if you need to take out a loan to get a beasty old pc, do it. It's a worthwhile investment.

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Someone is either;
A) Too into games
B) Rather rich
C) A villain in real life

PCs ain't cheap. I run CoX on a laptop with settings down on minimum. Yes, all of them. And, y'know, I still love the game. Sure, I want shiny graphics et al, but I only lag when other people are (lagspikes) and I actually run, most of the time, really rather smoothly. Loading times are good, no major problem.

Now, I am planning on upgrading, but if NC went 'Oh well, we'll update it now, everyone will have to have XYZ to play now,' well...I'd be a tad miffed. I'd go so far as to say irate. Because not all of us can afford high-end kit. And no, a loan isn't really viable, as you end up paying interest. That interest may, in the longer run, even end up being the PC.
NC are being wise atm by being concious of the people stuck on lower-end stuff. Seeing as people on high-end stuff get benifits for that anyway, well, go figure.

/Opinion

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Of course you're going to run the game smoothly if you run it on minimum GFX, your GPU has almost no work to do.

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Of course you're going to run the game smoothly if you run it on minimum GFX, your GPU has almost no work to do.

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Quite. Of course, if I crank it up even to Performance, then it lasts about 3/4 of an hour, then bugs out on me. Bluescreenofd00m, normally. Oh, and for some random reason the cursor turns into a pixilated block. But not on minimum. Surely to god the cursor shouldnt ever be affected? But heydehoo.

I have no idea wether Vista hates me, or the laptop hates overheating/having that much stuff to render, etc.
Shiz happens.

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