DM - Siphon Life


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so i have made a DM/SR scrapper and its plenty fun currently at lvl 37, what i would like to know is how is siphon life as a heal? and how much healing do you get in return from it? ive gone through the boards eu and us and can't seem the find any figures on this, alot of people either seem to be putting makos sets, nictus healing sets, or a mix of heal and dmg, does anyone know what the hp gain is on it? the answer is probably there but im just blind lol, any help?


 

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Unslotted it heals 10% of you life, so roughly 20% slotted.

Might not sound much but when you have it fully slotted as part of your attack chain it is great, my current slotting:

Level 8: Siphon Life
(A) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge
(9) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
(9) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing
(11) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
(11) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
(13) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance


Giving me:
26% EndDiscount
53% Accuracy
78% Damage
78% Heal
78% recharge.


 

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thanks for that, i needed the numbers


 

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I've got a gogli instead of the numina in mine, but otherwise the same.

Having said that some of the US guys recomend going for 90%+ dmg, acc & rechrg at the expense of heal. I would only suggest that if you are going for an ubba build and plan on doing a 3 attack chain (smite, SL, MnG). But that requires almost perma-hasten levels of recharge (my dm/sr is 121.1s recharge on hasten).


 

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I don't have an ubba recharge build but I have the US style slotting, there's a fair bit of +regen in my build though


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But if your softcapped, SL is just keeping you topped up. If you get mashed by an AV lucky strike it'll take a few hits to get you back to full HP, but even one application should avoid you getting two shotted.


 

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The only AV it wasn't enough for was Chimera for me, but that's more his Caltrops meaning I could get 1 shotted...... hate how I struggled with him and then at the end of the arc walked Tyrant, went back and still struggled with Chimera. I had to run Tough and carry greens to beat him, other AVs I just needed the odd blue


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They were appropriately appalled
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with one leg missing
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Level 8: Siphon Life
(A) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge
(9) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
(9) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing
(11) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
(11) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
(13) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance


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Mind me asking, but wouldn't a Doctored Wounds: Heal/Rech be better in there? No bonus losses involved and it would cost some 20mil less.


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I would even say: Touch of the Nictus: Heal/Rech, for an extra 1.88% hp.


 

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That would be even better. I'm not too familiar with the accurate healing sets myself so didn't even realize that.


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I would even say: Touch of the Nictus: Heal/Rech, for an extra 1.88% hp.

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Dont think there is a ToN Heal/Recharge, just checked on mids, cant see one.


 

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I would even say: Touch of the Nictus: Heal/Rech, for an extra 1.88% hp.

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Dont think there is a ToN Heal/Recharge, just checked on mids, cant see one.

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Paragon Wiki lists one anyway. I'd bet they cost tonnes though.


 

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Synthetic Nucleus Exposure x2
Synthetic Golgi Exposure x2
Hecatomb Dam/Rech
Doctored Wounds Heal/Rech


 

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I would even say: Touch of the Nictus: Heal/Rech, for an extra 1.88% hp.

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Dont think there is a ToN Heal/Recharge, just checked on mids, cant see one.

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Theres 9 lvl 50 ones on wents prices well under 500k.


 

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Probably awaiting a Mid's update then.


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It's in mids


 

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It's in mids

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^^ I stand corrected, sorry


 

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I can better that :P

Mako's Bite - Acc/Dmg
Hecatomb - Dmg/Rech
Touch of Nictus - Acc/Heal
Hecatomb - Acc/Dmg/Rech
Numina Conv - Heal/Rech
Numina comv - Heal

Accuracy - 78.55%
Damage - 84.51%
Heal - 91.78%
Recharge - 84.51%

4% Recovery Bonus
12% Regeneration Bonus

At lvl 50 this will have the folowing effect

Heal you for 256 Hp
Recharge in 5.42s
To-hitt debuff 5.63%
Damage 248 pts Neg nrg dmg


OR -

Hecatomb - ACC/RECH
Hecatomb - DMG/RECH
Hecatomb - ACC/DMG/RECH
Nucleous Expo - Acc/Dmg
Standard IO - HEAL
Standard IO - HEAL

ACC - 90.05%
DMG - 90.05%
HEAL - 83.32%
RECH - 89.93%

Beat those figues if you can :P


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or i can spend way less inf and get endurance reduction as well


 

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or i can spend way less inf and get endurance reduction as well

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Pffft - I don't settle for second best build due to Inf restrictions.


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or i can spend way less inf and get endurance reduction as well

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Pffft - I don't settle for second best build due to Inf restrictions.

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Ha Spoken like a pro farmer


 

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Your best is 12 endurance per use. Good stuff


 

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Your best is 12 endurance per use. Good stuff

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Bog standard cost is 10 endurance actually, so lets stick to being accurate and helpful instead of facetious and sarcastic.


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It does help to look at the right AT

What I would personally do would depend on the rest of the build.


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Sorry i mixed up the numbers with tanker siphon life(11,96).
But this is still too good:
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Pffft - I don't settle for second best build due to Inf restrictions.

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Bog standard cost is 10 endurance actually, so lets stick to being accurate and helpful instead of facetious and sarcastic.

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