Multiboxing


Alvan

 

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I'm just returning to CoX after a brief stint of multiboxing in WoW. I've missed out on a couple of issues and must say, i'm liking the changes.

It's WoW that got me into the habit of multiboxing, it works well for me as I tend to play in small hours of the morning, when teaming can be a pain in the butt. That and I enjoy the challenge.

I've been messing about with dual boxing tonight, but would like to go to quad, maybe even 6 boxing in the next week. I've discovered that the likes of Keyclone are of no use whatsoever and the whole alt-tab thing, while being effective is a pain. I was wondering if there are any other boxers around that can pass on some tricks of the trade, to make life a little easier with boxing. Is it just a case of alt-tab and having macros for buffing, then a power or two on autocast?

Thanks for anything you can help me with.

If you're a multibox hater, save your breath, I don't bother reading your hate. Jealousy is a terrible thing, isn't it?


 

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Thanks for the welcome back. I would have posted with my old account, but I can't seem to remember, or have access to the email I registered it with .. doh.

Anyway, multiboxing is playing 2 or more accounts on 1 or more computers.


 

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Only got experience playing on one comp, but if you do the trick is to pick the most useful toon and make that the priority, the one you spend most of the time playing, if you alt+tab all the time you'll be severely cutting down on your efficiency, particularly if one or more of the toons are efficient enough on their own anyway. For secondary clients, auto the most useful power to spam as befits the situation - say one of your secondaries is a kin corruptor, when fighting mobs you'd put it to follow your main then spam its highest dps power on auto-attack (alt-tabbing to SB yourself every couple of mins, and maybe fulcrum shift depending on spawn size), but once you switch to AV combat you'll find Transfusion a far more useful power to put on auto for its combination of healing and -regen.

Obviously beyond this, the only powers your secondary will be using apart from exceptions when alt+tabbing to them (which as I said you'll probably want to keep to a minimum to maintain efficiency on one character) will be toggles. Therefore the more toggle-based a character is the better suited it is to being used as a secondary, as it loses only a fraction of the efficiency it would have lost if all its powers were clickies. For example you'll find a good secondary from any sort of sonic dispersioner, with an AoE or ST attack on auto depending on spawn size, it'll be a lot less inefficient than if you were playing something like a rad as a secondary, as a lot of sonic's good pve powers are self or ally-based toggles, and the useful shields only need to be spammed every 4 mins, keeping alt tabbing to a minimum, whereas to get anything out of rad in killing mobs you'd be alt+tabbing a lot to apply the debuffs, though granted keeping the toggle debuffs on an AV would be effective, applying Lingering Rad without sacrificing dps in the form of putting it on auto would be more difficult.

Never done it myself, but if you were doing it with multiple comps, I would make sure to increase efficiency by pressong keyboard numbers rather than mouse click powers, and I'm sure a lot more would get done, as (especially when it's a long period of standing still such as point defence or protracted AV fights) it's not too difficult to play one handed, probably being barely noticably different from 2 people playing, apart from maneuvering which would take more effort (beyond just getting one to target the other and pressing 'F' :&gt


@Rooks

"You should come inside the box... Then you'll know what I mean."

 

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Thanks for that, Rooks.

I'm only dual boxing right now, so just running with two windows on screen at the same time,trying to get things figured out.

Right now it's two Thug/FF MM's, one set to bodyguard (main) and the other set to agressive. I've just been pulling things withing range of the second char, then blasting away. I've realised how spoiled I was in WoW for multiboxing, but I'm determined to make a go of this, got three more copies on order, they should arrive tomorrow, then I can start five boxing.


 

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The easy way using follow etc etc for dual boxing are the ones posted above.For multiboxing setups and more advance functions like on demand spike damage etc etc and if you can use multiple machines you can have a look at keyclone altho it doesnt work as good as in WoW.

Other option is to use Octopus which is not easy to setup but once you have it going works wonderfully.

Octopus tutorial

Can try Interbox too (Linky) altho not tested it myself if it works with CoX.

Can always try contact in game @Lost Ninja knows a lot about multiboxing CoX and i know he has used Octopus to pull it off as well as some magic with belkin nostromos


 

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Thanks, Kowabanga.

Unfortunately, I'm not a rich multiboxer and don't have the advantage of running multiple machinee. So, software boxing is my only option. Problem with that is, CoX is said to send hidden characters with it's key presses, which stops Keyclone from working on a single machine, i've not tried Octopus, but it's worth a look, thanks.

Do you know if @Lost Ninja runs on multiple machines? Don't want to bother him if he does.


 

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OH BOY! In the words of Illidan, "YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!"

If you don't know WoW, you won't know the quote, but it fits nicely into what I just went through

I logged in to Union on the blue side, created my 5 Fire/Rad controllers, with the idea of using them to get my own SG Base up and running as fast as possible. Clothed them, named them, logged them in .. BOOM! I was hit by a wall of hate. According to the populace, I'm a hacker, a cloner, a farmer, a cheat etc etc etc.

Why can't they just see me as another player to bolster the thinning ranks of the game?

Ah well, time to give the Villain side a go, or maybe Defiant


 

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don't give up there's always some moron about that recons if you don't play it there way your wrong


 

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Defiant's always nice, but yeah, having 5 fire/rads obviously running on follow will aggro some people, usually the same that despise farming etc and will arouse suspicions that you're probably selling you're services for real money.

Actually... 5 accounts? Anyone with 3 or more will make me suspicious. I do have 2 accounts myself since it makes things easier (transfering inf, inventions etc) and it's quite fun playing with myself (interpret that anyway you want)

Yes... I do enjoy playing with myself!


 

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Heh, the reason behind the 5 boxing is, I did it on WoW. So figured i could do it here. It's a lot more of a pain, but I'm going to make it work.

But always rememeber, with 5 characters comes the cost of 5 sets of IO's

I've got no plans to sell any of my hard work, I just enjoy having a team whenever I play and lets face it, sometimes it's next to impossible to get a team going.


 

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OH BOY! In the words of Illidan, "YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!"

If you don't know WoW, you won't know the quote, but it fits nicely into what I just went through

I logged in to Union on the blue side, created my 5 Fire/Rad controllers, with the idea of using them to get my own SG Base up and running as fast as possible. Clothed them, named them, logged them in .. BOOM! I was hit by a wall of hate. According to the populace, I'm a hacker, a cloner, a farmer, a cheat etc etc etc.

Why can't they just see me as another player to bolster the thinning ranks of the game?

Ah well, time to give the Villain side a go, or maybe Defiant

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Go for it mate, ignore the idiots, when they want to pay your subs, their opinion is worth something.


 

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You're paying 5 subs so I don't see a problem, you're practically subsidising the very n00bs who be hatin' on ya.


@Rooks

"You should come inside the box... Then you'll know what I mean."

 

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Ah, nice to have some support on here. I must admit though, I am beginning to think that boxing 5 chars at the same time is a bit foolish. I moved across to Defiant and rolled 5 Masterminds and I seem to spend more time summoning pets and setting up follow, than I do with actual missions .. hehe .. live and learn.


 

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According to the populace, I'm a hacker, a cloner, a farmer, a cheat etc etc etc.

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To be honest...lol.There are some people around that think the game should be played in a "honorable" way.Go through all the arcs,get the badges and basically go through the same things they went through because "its all about the journey/lore/story/immersion"

Basically ignore them and play the game as you see fit and on top of that drop a ton of petitions on them if they harass you and tell them supreme beings will smite them.

Lost Ninja uses 1 box afaik.Havent seen LN around for some time but feel free try drop him a tell at his global i am sure will answer a few questions if he can.

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rolled 5 Masterminds

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I think t enjoy multiboxing here preferably choose something with lots of spike damage,small setup times,maybe lots buff stacking too.

All fire blaster team for example with 1 debuffer or buffer (preferably kin or sonic) could be a fun experience.


 

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I think t enjoy multiboxing here preferably choose something with lots of spike damage,small setup times,maybe lots buff stacking too.

All fire blaster team for example with 1 debuffer or buffer (preferably kin or sonic) could be a fun experience.

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Yeah, the Fire/Rad controllers did seem a lot easier to run with, it's the setup that's the pain with the MM's. Although I've gone for all Thugs for the enforcer's buff, then 1xDM, 2xFF and 2xTraps. I have the feeling that they are more well suited to street sweeping, rather than running mission arcs, which is what I enjoy doing, and is possibly where my problem arises.

I'll go with these a bit longer, at least until I get some group travel powers under my belt, then I will decide.


 

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I think t enjoy multiboxing here preferably choose something with lots of spike damage,small setup times,maybe lots buff stacking too.

All fire blaster team for example with 1 debuffer or buffer (preferably kin or sonic) could be a fun experience.

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Yeah, the Fire/Rad controllers did seem a lot easier to run with, it's the setup that's the pain with the MM's. Although I've gone for all Thugs for the enforcer's buff, then 1xDM, 2xFF and 2xTraps. I have the feeling that they are more well suited to street sweeping, rather than running mission arcs, which is what I enjoy doing, and is possibly where my problem arises.

I'll go with these a bit longer, at least until I get some group travel powers under my belt, then I will decide.

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I must admit im curious, why 5? I can see 3 but 5 seems more hassle than its worth.


 

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5 is the teamsize in WoW, so I played 5. Plus, Keyclone allowed almost total control of all 5 characters too.

Only ever playing 1 character on CoX before and being bitten by the boxing bug, I thought, I can run 5 on WoW, I can run 5 here. I have to say though, I will probably drop an account or two in the future.


 

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5 is the teamsize in WoW, so I played 5. Plus, Keyclone allowed almost total control of all 5 characters too.

Only ever playing 1 character on CoX before and being bitten by the boxing bug, I thought, I can run 5 on WoW, I can run 5 here. I have to say though, I will probably drop an account or two in the future.

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Dont get me wrong im sure you could run 8 here, i was just wondering why your bothering.

I can see the point of 2 or 3 but what you actually aiming to do here?

When you have the chars you want levelled they will be split between 5 accounts, with no chance of consolidating them on 1 or 2 accounts, so to access them means paying 5 subs.


 

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Well, the "point" is for me to be able to see a lot of the content that I have never seen, either due to poor teams, crashes or not being able to get a team at all. Mainly TF's and the like.

I just enjoy having my own team, not being able to do stuff, because I can't find a team the times I play, it really does my head in. Granted, a multiboxed team of 5 is going to be no where near as efficient as a team of 5 actual players, but I take what I can get.


 

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I moved across to Defiant and rolled 5 Masterminds

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Must admit when I first saw this thread I wondered what the point of doing this was. It seems quite a lot of work for very little gain. CoX isn't really set up to make this sort of thing easy or even worthwhile - except for farming.

5 masterminds really is overkill in my most humble opinion though, are you really intending to have 30 pets running around?


 

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I moved across to Defiant and rolled 5 Masterminds

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Must admit when I first saw this thread I wondered what the point of doing this was. It seems quite a lot of work for very little gain. CoX isn't really set up to make this sort of thing easy or even worthwhile - except for farming.

5 masterminds really is overkill in my most humble opinion though, are you really intending to have 30 pets running around?

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A video of them all doing /e robotdance in unison wold be worth it


@Golden Girl

City of Heroes comics and artwork

 

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I just enjoy having my own team, not being able to do stuff, because I can't find a team the times I play, it really does my head in.

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What times do you usually play? I admit that at the moment it's a bit quiet, with a lot of people off on the test server, but I'm generally surprised by how easy it is to get together a TF team at the most ridiculous times of night on Defiant. Including mad people willing to start a Dr Quarterfield TF at 1am. I guess if you get most play time during 9-5, that would be more of a problem, though.

(Disclaimer: I have nothing at all against multiboxing. It sounds quite fun, actually.)


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Defiant @Grouchybeast
Death is part of my attack chain.

 

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Good for you, Salerth! If you've got the focus and money to play it, why not.

Golden Girl's suggestion with getting every pet to do the robot dance is cool! I reckon you should do it and post the link here...


"There are no stupid questions, just stupid people"

 

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After struggling with 5 boxes last night, I decided to retire two of them and drop to three boxing, which is a lot easier. I run 1 char on my second monitor and 2 on my main, meaning I only need to alt-tab the once. Perhaps I should give my nieces the other two accounts .. I'd be favorite uncle for a while. But then, I'm only uncle

As for my play times, sometimes I can get on during the day, but mostly it's nights that I play, late nights

Between 1am and 5am, I was lucky if I saw 3 people. I know, I know, normal people sleep at that time of night, but, such is the life of an insomniac .. cue the song .. I can't get no sleep!