Uhhhh, that's been known for ages...
What ?
SO if a rumour about updating engines to the Aion engine for the next incarnation of COH is true.. Could those lovely locks finally sway in the wind?
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SO if a rumour about updating engines to the Aion engine for the next incarnation of COH is true.. Could those lovely locks finally sway in the wind?
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It would be nice, yes 
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SO if a rumour about updating engines to the Aion engine for the next incarnation of COH is true.. Could those lovely locks finally sway in the wind?
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It would be nice, yes
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While I can see that hair that moves could be cool I don't think its a good idea for CoH. I cant really any MMO that has animated hair I think that it would make it harder for older PCs to play the game.
Depends. Actually, NWN 1 of all things, had animated hair, and quite good ones (about the same level as CoX cloth) So, it doesn't need to be that big a performance hit as it might seem if done properly. Of course, IF they use physics engine to do that, things are different...
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Depends. Actually, NWN 1 of all things, had animated hair, and quite good ones (about the same level as CoX cloth) So, it doesn't need to be that big a performance hit as it might seem if done properly. Of course, IF they use physics engine to do that, things are different...
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NWN 1 was a single player game CoX cloaks not every one has them in fact only certain PCs. Now you make every one have animated hair which is going to affect more PCs and NPCs then your going to see a major effect on game performance.
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NWN 1 was a single player game
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Erm, wrong, I DM'd a NWN1 server. And he's right it had animated hair, like the cloaks.
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NWN 1 was a single player game
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Erm, wrong, I DM'd a NWN1 server. And he's right it had animated hair, like the cloaks.
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OK did your NWN1 server hold over 4,000 players that could all be on line all at once.
not many CoH/V servers have 4000 plus 
on line at once
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Sorry that does kinda come off as a bit of an arsey comment. What I'm trying to say is your server was probably very different to a MMO server.
As I'm sure that's it not that hard to make t possible to have every toon in every MMO have animated hair but Im also sure that it would cause extra stress on the players system and that of the servers as well. So why not just not have animated hair as it would be easier.
But that's not to say that I don't want to see animated hair in MMO games.
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Animated hair are purely cosmetic thingie, so I bet they're calculated mostly clientside. CoX is 90% bassed on instances, so, unless we're talking about Hamidon or RWZ, we need to animate 8 haircuts top. Of course, there might be problems with say, biggier cossie competitions and such, but well, no one expects ANY engine work well on older hardwartre in situations like that.
And, well, NWN servers are usually run like mini-MMOs, persistence, dozens of simultaneous players (up to 64 IIRC), GMs, etc. In fact, again, IIRC, you could clusterize/federate servers to make it even more like MMO.
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Animated hair are purely cosmetic thingie, so I bet they're calculated mostly clientside. CoX is 90% bassed on instances, so, unless we're talking about Hamidon or RWZ, we need to animate 8 haircuts top. Of course, there might be problems with say, biggier cossie competitions and such, but well, no one expects ANY engine work well on older hardwartre in situations like that.
And, well, NWN servers are usually run like mini-MMOs, persistence, dozens of simultaneous players (up to 64 IIRC), GMs, etc. In fact, again, IIRC, you could clusterize/federate servers to make it even more like MMO.
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And no CoX won't upgrade to the Aion engine. The CoX engine is home grown by the Devs... Aion runs on the Crysis engine, so to use that for CoX would involve major rewrite.
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As I'm sure that's it not that hard to make t possible to have every toon in every MMO have animated hair but Im also sure that it would cause extra stress on the players system and that of the servers as well. So why not just not have animated hair as it would be easier.
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I wouldn't expect it to have any effect on the servers just the clients - as its purely cosmetic I'd expect it would be implemented client side as with the rag doll animations.
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Well braided hair is animated in EQ2, I've not tried any other hair model yet
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The thing about NWN is the module creator will quite happily let you put in enough graphical carp to explode a supercomputer. It was up to the module desigener to create content that would actually run on the players' computers.
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Animated hair are purely cosmetic thingie, so I bet they're calculated mostly clientside. CoX is 90% bassed on instances, so, unless we're talking about Hamidon or RWZ, we need to animate 8 haircuts top. Of course, there might be problems with say, biggier cossie competitions and such, but well, no one expects ANY engine work well on older hardwartre in situations like that.
And, well, NWN servers are usually run like mini-MMOs, persistence, dozens of simultaneous players (up to 64 IIRC), GMs, etc. In fact, again, IIRC, you could clusterize/federate servers to make it even more like MMO.
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Would you deny the lovely carnies a good hair blow? Ok, no point keeping my storm alt then!
But but.. but still Aion is great 
(actualy the first game i serious consider leaving CoX for)
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Would you deny the lovely carnies a good hair blow? Ok, no point keeping my storm alt then!
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To EBs and higher, - probably no. To the rank and file, - it depends on what exactly is "older hardware"
/me wonders whether Fusionette would look better with animated hair...
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/me wonders whether Fusionette would look better with animated hair...
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On someone that spends majority of her time laying dead on the floor animated hair would not make a difference.
Aion has animated hair!!
(now if anyone can give me a speedcourse korean, i would be very happy)
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