This has also been discussed a lot, though not quite as much as server merges. IIRC, general consensus is that the downside of losing our community in the US one would outweigh the minimal benefit of being able to talk to the devs directly.
As much as I'd like to post on the US forums, I greatly prefer our generally much more friendly forums.
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I prefer your mom's friendly atmosphere.
But, uh, moving away from Floaty moments, I wouldn't neccesarily mind a merger though I think it'd be largely impractical. Beyon developer interaction I can't think of many benefits.
The fact the US servers get patches and issue batas before the EU would cause problems IE: 'na na na na na naaaaaaaaaaa' posts and such and 'waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa why do you give the US patches before the EU waaaaaaaaaaaaa'
It would be a very bad move IMO.
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The fact the US servers get patches and issue batas before the EU would cause problems IE: 'na na na na na naaaaaaaaaaa' posts and such and 'waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa why do you give the US patches before the EU waaaaaaaaaaaaa'
It would be a very bad move IMO.
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That's not always the case. There have been occasions where WE have had patches before the US; same for some news postings.
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I personnal read the US forums more than the EU forums due to the Badge section which we don't have, plus they do have a alot more areas to discuss things and different topics. Hope this changes this side when the forums are updated.
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I'm kind of ambivalent (but whereas most who don't care don't post) because I can see an up and downside.
Sure we'd get to talk directly to the Devs - but actually that's not necessarily a good thing. When the Devs do look in this direction and they see a concensus (or what amounts to one in this environment) they can say "look the guys in Europe want 'X', is that possible?" and see a significant and important part of the player base asking for something. As part of a single forum I'd fear we'd lose our distinct voice. Granted the Devs don't post every day but I'm pretty confident that the com channels are open enough that they have a pretty damned good idea of what we want.
I cannot think of any other advantage tbh.
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I don't mind a merge of forums but just like FFM i prefer more friendlier and familiar atmosphere around here.
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We also have duplication of effort. Such as the Announcements, patch notes etc. This work could be reduced with a merging of the forums into one CoX forum, instead of the two seperate ones.
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The effort is not in the posting of patch notes on two forums (fora?) but rather the translation and localisation. Unless all support for the French and German communities is dropped completely then the same amount of work would still go into it.
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We also have duplication of effort. Such as the Announcements, patch notes etc. This work could be reduced with a merging of the forums into one CoX forum, instead of the two seperate ones.
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The effort is not in the posting of patch notes on two forums (fora?) but rather the translation and localisation. Unless all support for the French and German communities is dropped completely then the same amount of work would still go into it.
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I might be missing something here, but how can posting in 1 english fourm and 2 others be the same as posting in 2 english and 2 others?
Okay - might not be alot more - but it's duplicated effort.
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The effort is not in the posting of patch notes on two forums (fora?) but rather the translation and localisation. Unless all support for the French and German communities is dropped completely then the same amount of work would still go into it.
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I might be missing something here, but how can posting in 1 english fourm and 2 others be the same as posting in 2 english and 2 others?
Okay - might not be alot more - but it's duplicated effort.
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It'll be fairly marginal though - something on the order of a minute or two for the extra english post with split forums.
Over a year that might just sum up to an hour or two, which is probably enough to be noticable, but likely to be less than the effort they'd need to put in to merge the forums in the first place.
A fair point.
However if all the forums are going to be overhauled in the near future (i.e. move to a new platform) then there was be less effort involved.
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However if all the forums are going to be overhauled in the near future (i.e. move to a new platform) then there was be less effort involved.
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Part of the reason why they don't is actually technical, and accounts based. The forums have to connect to ours accounts to see if we're subbed to play, which would probably mean we'd have to be auth'd to play the US game to post on the US servers, and thus giving us free access to those servers. Not going to happen.
If you remember, for the US devs to be able to post over here, NCSoft EU ended up having to give them EU game accounts.
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I can see the authentication issue could be a problem (at this stage login names could be duplicated etc), though its not insurmountable.... in fact I could also see a half way house whereby certain sections like Dev forums are global to the game while others are localised - where you character is housed determines which local sections you get....much like ITV has many programs in common but splits for news/weather etc.
While there'd undoubtedly be upside to a forum merge, personally I would prefer that they remain separate. I prefer the more manageable size of the EU forum and that the discussions here primarily take place when I'm actually awake and paying attention. I also prefer the slightly less "Texan" tone of the EU forums, although the US CoH forums are by no means the worst offender I've seen when it comes to tone.
So long as we don't get merged with the US Servers I think it is better to use a separate EU forum. After all, we have 3 languages here and the versions of our games are not exactly the same to the US versions (a thing GR said awhile ago).
But it would be nice if the Red Names visited this place more often.
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For the last time will you - oh different topic... Darn - I'm stuck on this hook now!
Pretty much as said: as forums go, the EU is a nice cosy home where people are generally pretty friendly and helpful and you soon get used to the eccentrics (or insane madmen as the non-UK parts of the EU know them).
The US has a massive collection of +1 and IBTL posters that really don't help the signal to noise ratio. And the sheer speed at which threads can grow in the US means that it often seems that virtually no-one reads more than 2 posts in a thread before adding their 2 cents, and usually re-covering old ground and often arguing on a position that devs/mods have already stated is untrue.
Having the devs and a handful of players who seem to know the stats as well as the devs really doesn't even begin to balance out losing the EU community and mods.
Now if we could just kidnap the devs and the handful of knowledgeable US posters... 
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Really, something that has been mentioned in a couple of threads within the past week (just in passing), that is worthy of a thread of it's own.
The US forum.
Do we really need an EU forum as well? It's been mentioned that there is a lot of good information here, true, but then there is a lot of good information there too, and there are also more then one or two links from our pages over to the US boards.
We also have duplication of effort. Such as the Announcements, patch notes etc. This work could be reduced with a merging of the forums into one CoX forum, instead of the two seperate ones.
Now before people start throwing their toys out of their prams etc, I do agree that the EU version of the game would need it's own indivdual board (much has each server has it's own under the EU fourm).
Another reason why it might be a good idea could be that because the development team "seem" more active in the US boards therefore our suggestions for improvments to the game (large or small) may get the attention they deserve. Suggestions for improvments would be read and commented upon by a wider segment of the game players.
Personally - I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not.
Anyone for? Anyone against?
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