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EVERYONE! Stop flying, and shooting lasers from your eyes, and fighting aliens, and leaping through the air with shiny auras, and everything. It's not REALISTIC
They're very easy to ignore, imo. Doesn't bother me in the slightest
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EVERYONE! Stop flying, and shooting lasers from your eyes, and fighting aliens, and leaping through the air with shiny auras, and everything. It's not REALISTIC
They're very easy to ignore, imo. Doesn't bother me in the slightest
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Same here. I play the game escape the realism of the real world.
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There are bus-stops but where are the buses?
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The Paragon Transit Bus Service has been run by 2005 on behalf of the city by the Shotomaro Corporation of Nippon. Due to the high prevalence of fare-dodging and crime, they staffed the system entirely with ninjas.
Since then, no-one has ever seen a bus arrive or leave. However, people do get to their destinations, quickly, efficiently and safely - they're just too confused or too scared to tell anyone how.
There are no fare dodgers... any more.
To answer your other points - yes, it would be nice to have some more types of maps and places to tackle to give the flavour of a working city, such as shopping malls, cafes, and abandoned spooky old amusement parks. (The cafes etc are there, we just can't visit.)
Plus you should be able to buy coffee insps from cafes (double tall hasten with hazlenut syrup to go, please...)
Is it time for the dance of joy yet?
Stan Lee emphasizes the difference between "realistic" and "convincing" - Spider-Man has never, is not and will never be the former, but in order to succeed as a story, it has to be the latter. I suspect the OP means "convincing" rather than "realistic" - otherwise it's the wrong term for a fantasy adventure game.
Have you ever seen a mayhem mission ? With the number of cars destroyed my marauding villains the insurance premiums on cars have to be astronomical.
As for the cafés and so on
I do not think even the best parts of paragon city would be considered safe enough. Even in atlas park, the center of hero activity, gang members are mugging citizens in brought daylight.
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A long running comment. We believe that Statesman got rid of them.
Or maybe the bus system got abandoned because there is a well functioning monorail system with good coverage of the city. Which may explain the lack of cars...
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There are no school, post office, restaurant, cafe, cinema, shopping mall, ... and so on.
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There are any number of restaurants, especially fast food and sushi. There are street restaurants/cafes in Founder's Falls. No cinemas? There's on near a contact in Galaxy City, one near the King's Row police building, and quite a few more dotted about (probably not many people go though, since they've been showing the same films since 2004). American shopping malls look a lot like office buildings, just about any of those tower blocks could have a mall in it.
You won't find an churches to any religion in the city. It's probably one of the few MMOs with no religion what-so-ever.
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There are Giant Monsters but when are they going to tear the cities apart like they should be doing instead of sitting around in a cornner waiting to be killed.
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Probably when the technology exists to do this on a regular basis, though, personally, I'd prefer not to 'adventure' in a city more or less permanently reduced to rubble. So, it's likely, if that technology were to exist, that building-trashing monsters would be so rare as to be seen by too few players to make them worth coding.
It's a game and you're asking for 'realistic' details which would make the game unplayable. Example: if the streets were really as crowded as you want, no one without a travel power would be able to go anywhere.
Disclaimer: The above may be humerous, or at least may be an attempt at humour. Try reading it that way.
Posts are OOC unless noted to be IC, or in an IC thread.
Also, you have to remember that we see only a small part of the city, the 'bad neighbourhoods', which are infested by gangs and monsters. Ordinary citizens only go to Steel Canyon or Brickstown if they absolutely have to. It's not safe to run a bus service in these areas. And of course nobody would want their kids going to school in a part of town that had Skulls or Freaks running around in it!
I mean, would you hang around the worst ghetto meighbourhoods of, say, New York if you didn't have to?
However, it turned out that Smith was not a time-travelling Terminator
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As for real-life religions...well, there's Padre Henri, but that's about it.
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I must agree with this. Simply because someone has a different(read as fake/fictional/blablabla if you like) religion it does not mean it's not a religion.
And this game is full of religion... Just not the typical/generic ones.
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Hitting on them, you mean? 
I'd like to see more traffic, but I'm not sure it would improve game performance for some people...
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I must agree with this. Simply because someone has a different(read as fake/fictional/blablabla if you like) religion it does not mean it's not a religion.
And this game is full of religion... Just not the typical/generic ones.
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agreed. Why else would NPC's use the emote 'Praise' ?
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How come there are more roads, bridges and motorways than cars in Paragon City? Most of the roads are empty too; only one or two cars or vans drive by occassionally.
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As said elsewhere owning a car is just too dangerous when you've got super powers running about, imagine an invul tank standing in the middle of the road and not moving...the jam would be massive. As well as the villains coming over and smashing everything, plus there's Skyway a place with plenty of roads with plenty of clockwork too...it's their fault.
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Again as mentioned there are restaurants...tons of them, there's a fine Italian in Atlas and a lovely Mexican in Faultline (you can even hear the music!) Cinema's too but people in Paragon don't need a movie for escapism...films about superheroes are like watching big brother to those in paragon. There are universities, people in paragon are incredibly clever and don't need common schools...they just go straight to uni!
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There are far too few pedestrian on the street than there are buildings.
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Good. We could learn alot from Paragon
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Yea i could see it now..... 'Hey honey, fancy joining me for a light refreshment' ' Hey wait! What ya doin.....OH NOOOOOO' lol, could make an interesting CoX spin-off
Maybe in the next couple of years i would like to see interactive surroundings, like GM's thrashing buildings and Heroes using cars and buses to smash up freaks like in the ads they put on the NC website......... mmmm earth shaking insanity
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Stan Lee emphasizes the difference between "realistic" and "convincing" - Spider-Man has never, is not and will never be the former, but in order to succeed as a story, it has to be the latter. I suspect the OP means "convincing" rather than "realistic" - otherwise it's the wrong term for a fantasy adventure game.
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Fair enough. Convincing probably a better word.
I think probably we are too acustomed to using the zones as a transit point between mission doors. Perhaps we are too busy just doing missions and get levels. If people are not interested the slightest, the whole City of might as well reduce to a list of missions, TFs and, of course the most important place of all, Wentworth and the Black Market.
What a waste.
Most places of The City of are large the mirror of the real world: the traffic light system, the US style road signs, office blocks (and the photocopers and bins inside), trains and ferries as transport systems, bank...... and now real-life ads too. But even with all these things, there are still a large numbers of other details missing out. That was what I was trying to point out.
Of course there are certain degree of fantasy in the game: I was not even deny it in my original post. But fantasy only makes the game entertaining; believability makes it absorbing and enjoyable.
In fact, most comic books story arcs do, to a rather large extent, hinged on settings that you would find in real life: the police and the military organisations, the use of citizens are a good example. This game do have something similar but does not seem to use them well enough. Or, to put it this way (if that might make my concern clearer): it is hard to feel you are in a city; which is a failure, as I see it, because fundamentally this game is adveristed as 'The City of...'
Yes, there are something missing in the fantasy world of The City of: the obvious details and sophication.
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I'd like to see more traffic, but I'm not sure it would improve game performance for some people...
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Hints for badge, temp powers or even rewards.
How's that??
I would tend to agree with the OP that there are still things NC could to to increase the realistic feel of being in a living breathing city.
There's a reason there are so few cars:
no filling stations. Without petrol... well you know how it goes.
There are plenty of restaurants etc, perhaps the best example is the donut bar in Faultline.
Environmental destruction is not something the game engine supports easily so therefore it's been mostly ruled out I believe except for mayhem missions
Sure would be nice, but I'd prefer the devs to stick with their existing plans
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Do remember that the registered heroes make up a large portion of Paragon City's population. That may count towards why your not seeing many civvies, they're too busy getting their tights on!
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Of course, that may not be the ONLY reason they are wearing tights...
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Tights! No what you want is a nice pair of stockings with a suspender belt plus snug fitting basque. errr perhaps I've said too much
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Tights! No what you want is a nice pair of stockings with a suspender belt plus snug fitting basque. errr perhaps I've said too much
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O.o Yea.....hmmmm, maybe thats why NC has called it City of Heroes, because it is literally a City of Heroes
OK folks looking for volunteers...
Need 40-50 people to start logging off at the construction sites in North Steel or Faultline.
Then, when they're all qualified builders/engineers we build a large garage/depot in boomtown to get our 30-40 motor mechanics logging out...
Synchronise this with 20 or 30 people logging out at bus stops and they should be qualified bus drivers/conductors by the time the first number 96 leaves the depot on it's route to Talos (with frequent stops in Steel, Atlas and Skyway - 10 INF for an adult day ticket).
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Oh I always wanted to be a bus driver, where do I sign up. Heck, I even roll a hero for it.
How come there are more roads, bridges and motorways than cars in Paragon City? Most of the roads are empty too; only one or two cars or vans drive by occassionally.
There are bus-stops but where are the buses?
There are no school, post office, restaurant, cafe, cinema, shopping mall, ... and so on.
There are far too few pedestrian on the street than there are buildings.
There are only one zone where you can do something about a burning building.
There are Giant Monsters but when are they going to tear the cities apart like they should be doing instead of sitting around in a cornner waiting to be killed.
Relatively speaking, Paragon City and Rogue Isle are more believable comparing to others MMO. Just that: why those obvious details are missing.
I know it probably because otherwise the internet traffic will be too busy. But as a 'City', those obvious details is SO hard to ignored.
Think about it: hero rescuing traffic accidents as a zone event, diffusing school siege, taking to NPCs in an outdoor cafe, rescuing people from natural disasters, ... and so on.
Even though, after all, it is a fantasy game, put some realism back.