Romulus was a fair and trusted leader...our version is the opposite. Maybe he's a *gasp* Prateorian version? Well, it's probably a Nemesis plot.
Yeah, everything's a nemesis plot. Then again, another quote goes 'Not everything is a Nemesis plot'
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Then again, another quote goes 'Not everything is a Nemesis plot'
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True. But that quote itself is a Nemesis plot.
Not as far as he's been written in...
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Once the right hand man to Imperious, Romulus turned traitor and overthrew Imperious. Now, Romulus sides with the Nictus and other more questionable forces to secure his tyrannical rule over Cimerora.
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The Romulus who founded Rome was the son of the king of Alba Longa, escaped death, was raised by wolves and a kindly shepherd, killed his twin brother Remus, and abducted hundreds of women from the nearby Sabinii tribe.
...so probably not a nice chap. He was not, as far as historians have noted, able to hurl bolts of dark matter, drain the essence of both foes and friends to sustain himself, or prone to hanging out with minotaurs.
Though it could all be a Nemesis plot.
Is it time for the dance of joy yet?
The Qoute "Everthing is a Nemesis plot." is also a Nemesis plot to make you think everthing is a Nemesis plot.
Which ofcourse, everthing is.
Or is it?
This post is a Nemesis plot, please move along.
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The Qoute "Everthing is a Nemesis plot." is also a Nemesis plot to make you think everthing is a Nemesis plot.
Which ofcourse, everthing is.
Or is it?
This post is a Nemesis plot, please move along.
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But would Nemesis TELL you it was a Nemesis plot post or just let you think that?
Or would he...
damn, this is too confusing for this time of night. I'd best get back to my TPS reportzzs. *bzzt* *click*
Is it time for the dance of joy yet?
if your bring in Nemesis then have you thought about this leter from the TF [ QUOTE ]
Dear Character...
While time traveling into the past, you visit Cimerora and in a crate you find a hand written letter addressed to Character...
Did you think I wouldn't find you? You were sly, using an Aspect of the Pillar that wasn't linked to Ouroboros. Did you ever stop to think where Montague may have acquired that crystal? Or how?
I apologize. This letter was not meant for harsh words or recriminations. I merely meant to remind you that I can find you...anytime, anyplace, anywhere. That is all.
Who am I? I know you have been asking yourself that question for a time now. Am I Requiem? Am I Silos? Am I...you, perhaps? You may even be asking yourself which one of those people I am. Have you ever met Praetorian Earth Requiem? He doesn't go by that name, of course, in case you were wondering. Have you, perchance, met the shadow version of yourself? What about the version of Mender Silos from Faathim's reality?
It is a paradox.
Try not to think about it.
But again, my train of thought wanders. I'm writing you to tell you that, as surprising as it might sound, Mender Silos and his time traveling cohorts are actually succeeding in delaying the coming storm. Note, I didn't say preventing. There is still hope.
Because of their actions, and likely yours as well, it may be sometime before I can truly extend my hand to you in kinship. There is other work in other places for us to do. As much as I enjoy these letters, I'm sure you will understand that we have more pressing matters to attend. So, for now, I bid you farewell.
As always, look for me in the crystal.
[/ QUOTE ] This has got me think a lot about the Praetorian Earth, I haven't done the arc and I understand from people lord Recluse was killed of by the statesman Praetorian. But no one said anything about the other Villains/Praetorian Heroes.
So my idea is "everything's a nemesis plot" is our Lord Nemesis plots, but 'Not everything is a Nemesis plot' is the Praetorian Mender Silos. But I got no real hard events only what I obtained though these letters
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Yeah, everything's a nemesis plot. Then again, another quote goes 'Not everything is a Nemesis plot'
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The biggest achievement from Nemesis is making us believe that not everything is a Nemesis plot
I guess that 'here be spoilers' if you don't actually know who Nemesis is (and sadly not the warlock from 2000AD).
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Yeah, everything's a nemesis plot. Then again, another quote goes 'Not everything is a Nemesis plot'
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The biggest achievement from Nemesis is making us believe that not everything is a Nemesis plot
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I wouldn't say that. His steam-powered suit is so much more impressive than coming up with anagrams and trying to look crafty.
I say 'trying' as I think his plots may not be cunning misdirections as much as they are the incoherent fumblings of a senile 200 year old Prussian. He doesn't actually have plans within plans within plots all covered in a huge dollop of Machievellian subterfuge and intrigue, he just starts doing one plot then has a kip and when he wakes up he can't remember what he was doing and so starts doing something else. Luckily the nurses keep track of his meds and make sure he normally gets to the bathroom in time (have you ever wondered why his suit is so big and steams???)
Nemesis may have lost his marbles, but he does still have his own teeth - as he delights in telling anyone who will listen. 
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I wonder if they'll ever make lower level Nemesis Army mobs, now that he sems to be emerging as a much more powerful and important enemy?
Rikti start at around 5-6 (technically 
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This reads terribly as I'm not wanting to include spoilers...
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I wonder if they'll ever make lower level Nemesis Army mobs, now that he sems to be emerging as a much more powerful and important enemy?
Rikti start at around 5-6 (technically ), but Nemesis soldiers aren't seen until much later.
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Possibly... but if he is as he seems to be then I'd be let down at him having troops that are low level. He's got a serious shot at whatever he wants and seems to know what he's doing. Only appearing at high level fits for me.
I'd rather see an offshoot of Malta appear at lower levels - something as low level as normal SAS/SEALS etc
hmmm.. on second thoughts, I could imagine some lightweight Jaeger-like devices cropping up occasionally (scouting?) but wouldn't see them as leading to a full Nemesis force (for reasons given above).
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It's just that the Nemesis seems to have evolved in the devs thinking - at the start, I don't think his faction was supposed to be anything more than the Carnies - an exotic, whacky faction you encounter later on in the game.
From what I can see, it looks like the devs started out with one huge magical group (CoT), one huge military group (5th Column/Council) and one huge Alien group (Rikti) with all the other groups being limited to lower, medium or higher levels of the game.
But then they introduced Arachnos, who are like an upgraded 5th Column/Council - and now Nemesis is being given a much bigger part to play, even though his faction wasn't, I don't think, ever intended to be such a major threat when it was first designed.
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The Nemesis plot is a lie...
Who was the chap talking to Romulus before he got his Super Zoanoid Form with silver trimming and personal purple fluffie entourage?
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Who was the chap talking to Romulus before he got his Super Zoanoid Form with silver trimming and personal purple fluffie entourage?
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Yikies - you mean you think it may be Lord Nemenictusis?!?!
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The Nemesis plot is a lie...
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I am not a lie. I am the Nemesis plot.
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Does Imperious task force Romulus got anything to do with the founder of Rome Romulus and Remus?
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No, the historical inspiration for ITF Romulus was Romulus Augustulus , the last emperor of Rome.
I really should do something about this signature.
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I wonder if they'll ever make lower level Nemesis Army mobs, now that he sems to be emerging as a much more powerful and important enemy?
Rikti start at around 5-6 (technically ), but Nemesis soldiers aren't seen until much later.
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Possibly... but if he is as he seems to be then I'd be let down at him having troops that are low level. He's got a serious shot at whatever he wants and seems to know what he's doing. Only appearing at high level fits for me.
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Plus they'd have to rewrite loads of the intitial Nemesis arcs as they all start out with the assumption he's not been around for quite a while and the new sightings are most likely a latter-day imposter. I seem to remember Nemesis soldiers initially being introduced very mysteriously as some 'unknown soldier' crops up at the end of a Freakshow mission.
I love the way that Nemesis arcs move his story on as you progress through them, it would be a shame to have low levels Nemesis muddying that.
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Rikti start at around 5-6 (technically ), but Nemesis soldiers aren't seen until much later.
[/ QUOTE ]Actually, the first of Nemesis' creations (even if you don't include the ones you're referring to, since they're due to his influence as well) start at the same time.
Incidentally, "Keyser Soze" in Hungarian actually means "Lord Nemesis".
Is it time for the dance of joy yet?
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Does Imperious task force Romulus got anything to do with the founder of Rome Romulus and Remus?
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No, the historical inspiration for ITF Romulus was Romulus Augustulus , the last emperor of Rome.
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Reading that, it seems like it was just about the name only that they used
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Incidentally, "Keyser Soze" in Hungarian actually means "Lord Nemesis".
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From Wikipedia:
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Söze is an underworld kingpin whose ruthlessness and influence have a legendary, even mythical status among law enforcement agents and criminals alike.
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Mythical status? Like...Ouroboros? MENDER SILOS!!!
Like Praf says, the historical inspiration for Romulus is definitely Romulus Augustulus, as Cimerora is at the end of the Roman era.
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Who was the chap talking to Romulus before he got his Super Zoanoid Form with silver trimming and personal purple fluffie entourage?
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It was the Nictus that then actually merged with Romulus, hence why the black & red "evil" text bubbles went from being offscreen (the Nictus without a host) to coming out of Romulus' mouth afterwards (the Nictus had taken Romulus as a host).
It does make me wonder if it is still that Nictus inside Romulus the Warshade in CoV (and thus now seeking redemption for the terrible things it did back then), or even if Romulus the Warshade is still the same host as the Romulus in Cimerora (i.e. both host and Nictus might be seeking redemption).
We know Nictus/Kheldians are functionally immortal once they are inside a host (as long as they don't go more than ten years without a host at any point), we just don't know how long the host can actually last beyond gaining an extended lifespan (Dirge of Entropy's host, Rudolfo Uzzano, has been knocking around since the 1920s as Requiem). Shadowstar's Nictus (who created the redemptive Path of the Warshade) has been kicking around since Ancient Egypt, yet in the warshade arcs she reveals that she will pass on the role of hosting the Nictus, and thus the Shadowstar name, to her daughter.
The Nictus inside Cimerora Romulus may have taken over new hosts throughout history, but decided to keep the name "Romulus" for their combined host+Nictus form, eventually taking the current Warshade Romulus host (which may have been the host that persuaded the Nictus to redeem itself by following the Path of the Warshade).
So it keeping the name mght be a bit like the Mark of Cane, only voluntary? It chooses to bear it as a reminder of it's guilt?
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Does Imperious task force Romulus got anything to do with the founder of Rome Romulus and Remus?