Patron Arcs an VEATS


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Will VEATs be getting patron arcs, but not powers, because I think it would be a shame if they didn't. Makes sense that as they rise the ranks of arachnos they would get "chosen" by a patron to join there faction.

TBH, it would also make sense that if you were taken under their wing you got some of there powers, as you are a "special" arachnos soilder, not the average NPC


 

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Well, we're pretty sure there'll be some VEAT content and arcs, but we don't know exactly when. So I see this going one of two ways...

1) The VEAT arcs come in fairly early, and then you have the same patron arcs as a normal villain, or
2) The VEAT arcs will replace the existing patron arcs.

Either way, for wherever the VEAT arcs aren't present, we'll still have the same contacts and missions as a normal villain, as there's no way they'd write THAT much new content for this.


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I really dont think we will get access to the Patron pools, would be nice if we did though.

thing is they would have to write up 2-4 new powersets for the two new architypes.

I also have a feeling that we will have lots of powers to play around with, without Patron powers to worry about.

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Either way, for wherever the VEAT arcs aren't present, we'll still have the same contacts and missions as a normal villain, as there's no way they'd write THAT much new content for this.

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Well, the kheldians get their own private arcs all the way up to 50 (Albiet, they're council cave after council cave) so VEATs might also get their own stuff all the way up to 50. (Unless you mean that VEATs can only do their own arcs in which I agree that would be a tad too much work for a class not many people would get to play)

And as for patrons, as far as I can tell, it wouldn't be strictly cannon for the player to choose as each patron has control of a certain group in Arachnos. Black Scorpion gets the tarantulas, Scirroco get the Mu, Mako gets the Crab/Bane spiders and Ghost widow gets (unsurprisingly) the widows. Now, I'm sure there are gonna be some people who don't want to be under Mako/GW but if they get patrons, but really, they should already have them as patrons, considering they're the leader of each of the different sections it would be silly not to have them underneath their control from day 1 of said soldiers life in arachnos.


 

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In re of the VEATs only being part of one faction, not true while one patron has dominanace over Crab spiders or whatever doesnt mean that there are no Die hard Crab Spiders loyal to Ghost Widow.

for instance there are patron arcs where you see this happen.

But all in all I dont think we will have access to patron powers and to be fair I really dont see us having a need for em, concidering they are for the most part useless. their powers already being incorporated into one of the spider or widow branches in one way or another.

If we do get a patron I would prefer us get Lord Recluse as a patron and have access to one NEW patron powerset but then that will most likely not happen EVER

Regards

Spider


 

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No, they don't.


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Lord Recluse as a Patron would be seriously cool.


 

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No, they don't.

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they dont what?

if it was in referance to the Arachnos forces are you saying when you fought against Ghost Widows forces there were NO Mu NO Wolf Spiders No Crab spiders just blood widows, night widows and fortunatas?

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No, VEATs don't get PPPs.


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I said it would be nice/cool. I was asking if anyone thinks we will get the story arcs.

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it wouldn't be strictly cannon for the player to choose as each patron has control of a certain group in Arachnos. Black Scorpion gets the tarantulas, Scirroco get the Mu, Mako gets the Crab/Bane spiders and Ghost widow gets (unsurprisingly) the widows

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Recluse controls the bane spiders. And as someone said they each have foot soilders from each, I imagine the higher ups (Generals and such) of each group report directly to the patrons tho.


 

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VEATs get thier own story arcs, that parallel those in the patron arcs.


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I would bet for one of this two options:

a) No patrons for SoA (Soldiers of Arachnos, stop using the VEATs acronimun)

b) Lord Recluse as Patron. It would make sense, since if villains get the 4 patrons well known, the epics villains should get the 'epic patron', that is Lord Recluse. Also, think in 'Soldiers of Arachanos', and his leader is Lord Recluse, not any of the other patrons.

This last option is what I would like, although it will be option a).


 

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I was thinking that, instead of Patron Powers, you get Arbiter Training or something


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Im sure they will get lumbered with the same lame patrons as the rest of the poor vills, logic dictates they will get either brute or stalker ones as the others carry sheilds and the veats already have defences. This actually doesnt bother me as I will quite like having a night widow with a blood widow pet


 

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Im sure they will get lumbered with the same lame patrons as the rest of the poor vills

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Glad I'm not playing the same City of Villains you are then, because in my version the Patrons are damn good characters with well derived power sets.

EDIT: Well, all except Captain Mako's power sets.


 

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Im sure they will get lumbered with the same lame patrons as the rest of the poor vills

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Glad I'm not playing the same City of Villains you are then, because in my version the Patrons are damn good characters with well derived power sets.

EDIT: Well, all except Captain Mako's power sets.

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I'm glad someone enjoys them, I like some of the powers, but I think most people would agree they are carbon copies of each other. The whole 'more powerful than APP's since you cant respec out' line is simply an insult.


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Patrons for "SoA"... why would "SoA" get PPPs when Khelds doesnt get APPs?

dont think there's much more to it then that really... either the devs get some annoyance cuz they dont get PPPs or they get flamed 24/7 for being unfair to khelds..


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Im sure they will get lumbered with the same lame patrons as the rest of the poor vills

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Glad I'm not playing the same City of Villains you are then, because in my version the Patrons are damn good characters with well derived power sets.

EDIT: Well, all except Captain Mako's power sets.

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I'm glad someone enjoys them, I like some of the powers, but I think most people would agree they are carbon copies of each other. The whole 'more powerful than APP's since you cant respec out' line is simply an insult.

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Indeed, even castle said that they were not as good as he planned and were homogenius to the point of choice being almost irrelevant and has acknowledged that he wants to look at patrons and indeed epics when the chance arrises


 

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What Castle wants to do is take a big nerf hammer to certain powers in the APPs, but he knows there will be massive wailing and whining and cries of DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so he won't.

What he isn't going to do is give equivelently broken powers to villains.

As for EATs, the reason keldians don't get APPs is 1) They already have many more powers to choose from than other ATs; and 2) The have no "gaps" to fill. It seems very likely that the same reasoning will apply to SoA.


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What Castle wants to do is take a big nerf hammer to certain powers in the APPs, but he knows there will be massive wailing and whining and cries of DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so he won't.

What he isn't going to do is give equivelently broken powers to villains.


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expect to see powerboost getting a slow bashing with the nerf stick over time.

He has at least acknowledged the vill epics are weak sauce, so hopefully some distinctive variations will arrive in the form of new epic sets allowing the versatility and character customisation that even the non "broken" hero epic sets offer. At the very least PPs need some buffing.