I really hate pets, like a lot...
That they don't PvP.
I actually say LOL in real life.
I don't knjow when I started doing it but I blame BF2.
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.
Well, aside from this point...
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There, Their and They're/Your and You're - It's a common topic for primary school kids who are only just grappling with the English language, and while some manage to grasp it, some, unfortunately fail. Forever managing to mix them up long into adult life. For people who's second language is English, this is forgiveable, but for everyone else, it's really simple if you missed it:
- There is over there.
- Their belongs to them.
- They're means "they are".
- You're means "you are".
- Your means belonging to you.
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I'm in full agreement
This part I quoted is something I'd often put down to either not having English as a first language (hell, it's my only language and I can't spell most of it, and my grammer / punctuation is nigh-shameful) or perhaps rushing their typing to keep up with local chat flow.
None of us are perfect (no matter how deluded some people seem to be about that) and typos, mistells and such WILL occur no matter how careful people are, but there's a limit to how far you can push the typo excuse with constant use of 'txt speak' or whatever it's called these days.
Pet hate in RP? Grammar & spelling nazi's. Not everyone is as proficient in the language as you may be yourself. If it's understandable, leave it be.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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That's "whose" 
The heroic cannot be the common, nor the common the heroic.
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
I'm something of a spelling and grammar perfectionist (which is not to say that I'm perfect, merely that I'd like to be, and so try very hard not to make errors), but other than deploring the use of Txt-speak in RP, I'm pretty lax in my consideration of other people's spelling. I must admit that the there/their/they're issue occassionally gets my goat, but mostly because I have to re-read the sentence to double-check what has been written - heck, I know that within the last week I made that mistake myself at least once.
My biggest pet-hate in RP right now is probably players ignoring canon. Not bending it, not twisting it, not finding some of the huge holes that exist in it, but flat out contradicting it with a character. Kinda silly (and there have been all sorts of discussions about it both here and on GGOOC recently), I'll admit, but when someone simply ignores the game-world that we share, it gets my hackles up.
Having said that, I'm not perfect with regard to following it. I don't know the Kheldian information very well, personally, which is why I don't play one (though I have a PB, simply for extra cossie slots). Both of my main characters are reality breakers - neither of them follows the laws of physics, which I personally set great store by - and due to a mild miscalculation on my part one of them should have destroyed the world on 13/09/05, but I've fudged like a mad thing to make it all work consistently.
Spelling mistakes? Make 'em, I don't care.
Grammatical errors? We all make them, every day, so I'm not that fussed.
TXT-speak? Stop being lazy, please.
Capitalisation? No skin off my nose, but it can be hard to read sometimes, so please try to make some effort.
The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise.
; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise 
; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*
personally I find im typing as fast as I can to keep up with the RP and what ever errors creep in I beg forgiveness for .... or i correct afterwards .. , like i have just Capped the I's.... is using the word cpping allowable ...
i do agree that Names should start Capped it does make reading easier.
also internet speak ,in one way im in favour .. in that its a short hand for emotional keys in the speach ... rather than .. (( Rock laughts out loud at the joke )) ..lol seem fine ...however use of m8 should be a banning issue .. banning fron oxygen .
Hmmm... I have to admit to holding high ideals when it comes to grammar and spelling. Partly because my job involves copyediting- once you train your brain to look for errors it's hard to switch it off.
Anyway, my opinion on all of this is:
There, Their and They're/Your and You're: Annoying, yes. But also one of the most common mistakes which many, many people continue to make well into adulthood. I have reached a level of despair where, as long as I can figure out which one it was supposed to be, I can ignore it.
All lower case RP: Well... on the forums, absolutely no excuse. You have plenty of time to write your entry and re-read it to check it before you post it. In game, I can understand it. Some people don't touch type, so their fingers may not be so comfortably close to the shift button, and they may be concerned with their response time. I'd rather see correct capitalisation, but it's not world-breaking if I don't.
As for the capital I... some people might use lower case "i" to refer to themselves on purpose to indicate their character's low self esteem. Other people might just find themselves typing too fast and hitting the shift button late.
Internet speak: Yes, some people do say "lol" in real life. I'm another one (although it's usually in an ironic sort of way). Of course, it depends upon the character as to whether they should say it or not. Some abbreviations also could be spoken by certain characters- I and certain of my acquaintances actually would, in certain circumstances, say "omg" "brb" or "[censored]", so it's hardly inconceivable that some characters might. You can't say though, that's true.
As for "Ha ha ha" actually... I would disagree with you. If I saw somebody in game say "Ha ha ha" I would be inclined to interpret that as being spoken disparagingly- like Nelson Muntz in the Simpsons- rather than as an actual laugh. I would personally use /e laughs or /e giggles etc. for a genuine response.
Of course, what many of us have to remember is that while we RP, we are battling against an external force... the infamous Galaxy Girl spelling debuff effect!
The Purple Party Pagan of Paragon
Globals: @Morgana Fiolett / @Genevieve Moore
Altoholic with too many characters to count now I have all these shiny servers...
I'm an angry *******, so I have got a LOT of pet hates.
Punctuation can get on my nerves, how a sentence is laid out can change the meaning entirely. The most annoying for me is names.
"Yes Bob I do like Mudkips" = wrong
"Yes, Bob, I do like Mudkips." = right
Smilies are annoying too. same reasons as everyone points out. they break the 4th wall for me.
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That they don't PvP.
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I've had some very good PvP battles IC. In Character smacktalk is fun.
Plus the run-downs of the fight that RPers give fill in a lot of creative gaps, and contain more than "i pwned him".
Spelling and casing don't bother me at all, its usually because the person writing them is more interested in the words than the little things like "is it ei or ie?"
"though"/"tho" annoys me though
Heroes on the Villain side, Villains on the Hero side.
Not in the morally-ambiguous-or-trying-to-redeem/fall types of characters, but the ones who completely and utterly contradict the side of the game they've chosen to play in. I know we can all fudge missions and the appropiate text at times, but when you start changing everything so it's completely out of context and stretch credibility with things (I've been wiping out those Longobw bases, slaying Heroes and planting bombs in Paragon to...um...get the trust of this Arachnos Operative, yeah that's it!), eh. Really difficult to roleplay alongside, especially given the appropiate characters can't just punch you one and turn you in to the appropiate authorities.
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Actually, some of us do. The main reason you don't see more is because of the difficulty in creating a toon with a PvE/PvP/RP build that doesn't suck at one of them. Against a pure PvP build, any of mine would fall flat on their face hence most of the time I pitch mine against RP/PvE builds. Besides IC PvP just rocks. 
Pet hates? Anti-heroes. It's such an incredibly hard line to walk, I take my hat off to anyone who can do it well. But half the time it isn't done well. People create anti-social, overly aggressive, arrogant characters and then complain when no-one wants to RP with them.
Also, the lack of RP villain side. Not only does it seem harder to maintain, it's hard to get epic battles like the FF versus Doctor Doom when there's no opposition.
Oh and I'm a terror for grammar and punctuation as well but I found it led to me becoming a snob regarding who I RP with. I do my best to ignore it but it still gets my back up.
@Dante EU - Union Roleplayer and Altisis Victim
The Militia: Union RP Supergroup - www.themilitia.org.uk
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I really hate pets, like a lot...
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Dear everyone who didn't get this joke by Petitioned...
He hates pets because they don't PvP.
That's how I read it, anyway. I stand ready to be corrected. But I'll bet 5 inf I'm right.
The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise.
; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise ; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*
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< Does, and generally owns in SC, unless your a Fire Brute/Tank WB i get splattred, lack of billion inf IO build. >
As for the topic, noones perfect, i make countless mistakes in spelling and grammar, i feel people go over the top with it sometimes correcting themselves because they've typed 'teh' instead of 'the' i know what you mean no need to type (( *The )) and kill the immersion in the same stroke.
Smilies, i dislike. Immersion killer too, and for me RP is the best when i'm immersed.
Oh, another good one is making little of situations that should be taken a little more seriously. A good example being, someones char dies, next night their in D's. Or char 'A' turns into vampire one day, a demon the next day, dies the next day and becomes a priest the day after that. Such bland boring characters in my eyes, if your going to have a character event, make something of it. Have it long running and more intresting than 'I'm a demon tonight'.
Ugh, yes. That ties into another thing I hate: players who refuse to accept the consequences of their character's actions. This seemed especially rampant in WoW ("I wore a mask ;D" was the magical get out of jail free card in that game, everything from summoning demons to attacking faction leaders, to leading an uprising against an capital, regardless of what actually happened to the character in qwuestion) and I've seen some really silly examples in CoX as well.
Wiping out an entire group of civilians to get at a Hellion then dropping into Galaxy Girl is likely to have you shunned, if not attacked, by other Heroes and declaring your intentions to kill Recluse while standing in front of an Arbiter Drone would have you dissolved.
Don't. Do. It.
If you really don't want your character to get smacked down, don't put them in a position where that would logically happen.
Another pet hate. End of the World plots.
It doesn't matter how spiffy you think your plot is, you cannot end the world, and you cannot force anyone to think it's going to end, so why bother? It just annoys people who are going to have to ignore whatever it is you're doing, and are nothing but railroaded ego-fests with a foregone conclusion.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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Another pet hate. End of the World plots.
It doesn't matter how spiffy you think your plot is, you cannot end the world, and you cannot force anyone to think it's going to end, so why bother? It just annoys people who are going to have to ignore whatever it is you're doing, and are nothing but railroaded ego-fests with a foregone conclusion.
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<----Is currently on second end of the world plot
<---- Is expecting just like the first one the end of the world device to be smashed up by a mixture of heroes and villians
<---- if not being a villian of world shattering proportions your hardly a Super Villian at all
<--- Belives you means 'villian makes end of world device, heroes try to stop him plotlines'
<--- Could be wrong
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.
another one.... 2 week pregnancies.
sure, if its natural to your species to drop a sprog in 2 weeks. But the "oh, im pregnant... UNGH!.... its a boy!" in the space of a month makes me shake my head in disbelief.
No, he means plots like yours, that if everyone ignored, still wouldn't end the world.
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No, he means plots like yours, that if everyone ignored, still wouldn't end the world.
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But isn't the whole point of going through with such a plot line that in the end you'll get stopped be left in the ruin of your lab hands above you fists clenched screaming
"RICHAAAAAAAARDDDDS!!!!"
I mean if you've not got some form of counteraction going on then its not really a plot line is it, it'd be more turning up a GG or more accurately Pocket D with a doomsday device that no one saw you construct?
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.
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No, he means plots like yours, that if everyone ignored, still wouldn't end the world.
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Exactly. In fact... Even if all the heroes & villains involved HELPED the bad guy end the world... It still wouldn't end.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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No, he means plots like yours, that if everyone ignored, still wouldn't end the world.
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Exactly. In fact... Even if all the heroes & villains involved HELPED the bad guy end the world... It still wouldn't end.
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<---- goes to look up where they keep the servers, then fetches a crow bar from the shed
Want to bet ?
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.
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No, he means plots like yours, that if everyone ignored, still wouldn't end the world.
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But isn't the whole point of going through with such a plot line that in the end you'll get stopped be left in the ruin of your lab hands above you fists clenched screaming
"RICHAAAAAAAARDDDDS!!!!"
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End of the World plots are, and can only ever be, railroaded; by their very definition. It has a foregone conclusion because, no matter what you do, the bad guy CANNOT win. It's very rare to persuade uninterested people that your plot is even happening, let alone threatening the world. That's why, IMO, it's better to run plots that just affect small groups of people. Minimises player conflicts, makes them easier to keep a handle on, and are generally more fun.
Of course, YMMV, but it's pretty hard to convince players that their world is going to end.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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That's why, IMO, it's better to run plots that just affect small groups of people. Minimises player conflicts, makes them easier to keep a handle on, and are generally more fun.
Of course, YMMV, but it's pretty hard to convince players that their world is going to end.
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I tend to agree with this. I have a potential world-destroyer on my list of villains, but I am very careful to ensure that he would never decide to end the world. Destroy my main? Yep. Destroy my main and all his friends and family? Hell, yes! Proclaim himself a God and work to provide peace and happiness to all the cattl... erm... people inhabiting HIS world? Abso-flippin-lutely! But destroy the world? No.
The last and best attempt I saw at a world-destruction plotline was the Requiem War, which a) was phenomenally done, b) involved a large chunk of the RP community, c) needed the tacit agreement of even those RPers who weren't involved and d) caused NO END of OOC conflict because of all of the above.
Better to run a plotline where the impact is relatively minor to the gameworld (which is NOT the same thing as being minor to the characters involved). It's about the same level as the general agreement that kicks around amongst RPers: Don't make your character the President of the United States. Don't make your character Sister Psyche's husband. Don't run a world-destruction plot unless you can follow through if every player in the game ignores you.
The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise.
; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise ; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*
[u]Pet Hates[u] (or RP Police Unite!)
" phonetically it's pronounced 'colon end bracket' which sounds like something you'd find on the business end of a Cyborg. (I'm here all week, try the buffet.) If you want to smile use /e smiles or ;smiles or *Smiles* or [Smiles].
) we can be civilised about the things we dislike. =]
Pet Hates. Hatesman. Hey it's a play on words! Awesome!
Do you hate word plays? I bet you do. Do you hate me? Probably.
Here you can share and discuss what it is you abhor in Current Role Play! Now's your chance to step up and give other members of the community a clue without having to say it to their faces. Don't be shy with your criticisms, we won't deem you evil if you mean it.
Mine are:
There, Their and They're/Your and You're - It's a common topic for primary school kids who are only just grappling with the English language, and while some manage to grasp it, some, unfortunately fail. Forever managing to mix them up long into adult life. For people who's second language is English, this is forgiveable, but for everyone else, it's really simple if you missed it:
- There is over there.
- Their belongs to them.
- They're means "they are".
- You're means "you are".
- Your means belonging to you.
All Lower Case RP - When your shift key is broken, or you're too busy not caring about other people to have the consideration to just cap your first word in a sentence with a nice big capital letter. I might be able to understand it if the little finger on either hand didn't naturally sit above a shift key on a keyboard.
It's sloppy, lazy and when you see it you instantly jump to (sometimes wrongful) conclusions that this person doesn't know what they're doing and doesn't care. So why RP with them?
Also, every I in a sentence and every Name of Something (noun) needs a capital letter. Using a lower case "i" to talk about yourself has always traditionally been seen as a lack of self respect. Be proud of yourself, it's a very endearing quality.
Internet Speak in RP - That's abbreviations and smiley faces. No one can say "
Not to mention, no one laughs genuinely by saying "lol" in real life. "Ha ha ha!" Is interesting and engaging on so many more levels and it's a real life natural response. While it would be epic win, you don't hear lol'ing hyenas.
Much Love
P.s. Feel free to back me up or shoot me down as you please. Just don't go off on a nasty rant about someone or something that might offend a benevolent forum God like GhostRaptor (He sees everything you know and he doesn't like frownie faces.
Because this isn't about player hating, it's more about being free to let loose with whatever it is that burns inside your mind while educating others on ways to improve their RP and kudos levels.
It takes Chaos to move the world to Action.