I'm pretty excited by this meself.
So long Ice/Sonics. Hello Plant/Sonics!
plant/storm, plant/kin or plant/ta for me prolly 
Plant/Storm is definitely going to be a bomb. There's way too much potential in there.
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Depends what the secondary they fetch across is. I hope its poison as plant/poison works thematically for me...
I definitely wanted plant control as it would so go with empathy. I can't see the secondary being poison but that might be a cat among the pigeons in PvP although poison is hardly heroic sounding. I'd laugh if its traps.
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Plant/Storm is definitely going to be a bomb. There's way too much potential in there.
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Yep, Plant/Storm sounds totally amazing. If I hadn't got a */Storm controller already thats what I'd certainly be doing.
I don't think Controllers will get Traps as a secondary, Thermal and maybe cold are my bets. I reckon Defenders may get Traps though.
Im really hoping for Plant/Dark myself, got some nice concepts in mind for that myself. 
There is absolutely no chance of controllers ever getting dark as a secondary.
Yep, it'd just be too powerful. A Dark set with controller AT modifiers would so so powerful (the mezzes in Fearsome Stare, Howling Twilight and Petrifying Gaze). Plus an extra pet who heals!
Imagine it with Illusion (Fearsome Stare & Spectral Terror) or Fire (Imps plus a mini-dark defender pet healing them and debuffing their enemies)
(now stop drooling, its not going to happen)
We'll most likely get Cold Domination. And I'll be quite happy if we do. Thermal and Dark are just too powerful for trollers.
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i really hope controllers get "poison" as secondary *fingers cross*
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Umm, I just thought.
If Controller Secondaries are pretty much the same as Defender Primaries. (Not 1005 tru I know but close) just coz Plants is a PRIMARY on Villains, it might be a Secondary on the Heroe 'troller side.
That then gives you an Illusion Plant Controller and the prospect of absolute insanity in the Over Powered dept.
Not gonna happen I know but WHAT a thought!
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Umm, I just thought.
If Controller Secondaries are pretty much the same as Defender Primaries. (Not 1005 tru I know but close) just coz Plants is a PRIMARY on Villains, it might be a Secondary on the Heroe 'troller side.
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Now that's some very inconsistent logic 
Hey I can ALWAYS be relied upon to be Inconsistant.
Seriously tho, if Sorm Summoning is a Controller Secondary but a Defender Primary, why does Plant control have to come across to Heroes as a Primary set JUST coz its that way on the Red side?
I have no doubt it will. Just trying to defend my gobbledegook from a monent ago. 
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Seriously tho, if Sorm Summoning is a Controller Secondary but a Defender Primary, why does Plant control have to come across to Heroes as a Primary set JUST coz its that way on the Red side?
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Because Plant is a control set and CoH only has one AT that has access to control sets and that's trollers - so it has to be a primary.
Storm Summoning is a rounded Buff/Debuff/Heal set so its functionally very different form the extreme control base that plant ocntrol is based on.
Sure it arguably has 2 summons, but both are less damaging, and less useful than the one from control sets.
Plus look at it the other way, you share primaries with dominators, at its a dom primary.
I personally am stoked on this, like the OT I tried a Dom with Plant, but am not so fond of villains, and being used to a controller, found it annoying. So seeing a potentially great set slipping into the controller realm is great for me.
Unless an amazingly useful and synergetic power pool gets moved to secondary at the same time, expect a Plant/Kinetics from me.
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I bet they fiddle it around a bit as seeds is just too good as it is for Doms; trollers will be laughing their socks off with it. Also the Chompy isn't the most heroic looking of pets, and "Carrion Creepers" is slightly unheroic sounding too.
I could also see 'em being lazy and just porting it as it is though!
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I bet they fiddle it around a bit as seeds is just too good as it is for Doms; trollers will be laughing their socks off with it. Also the Chompy isn't the most heroic looking of pets, and "Carrion Creepers" is slightly unheroic sounding too.
I could also see 'em being lazy and just porting it as it is though!
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I reckon it'll be ported as-is. Certainly if they make the changes listed here I'll be most cross. Seeds, Carrions & Audrey are the reasons to be a plant!
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We'll most likely get Cold Domination. And I'll be quite happy if we do. Thermal and Dark are just too powerful for trollers.
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Whilst You are most probably correct about Cold Domination (i'm pretty certain that will be the one defenders get too), what is your basis for suggesting Thermal would be overpowered? I've not played the set, but it seems to combine elements of Empathy, Sonic and Kinetics, all of which are available to Controllers.
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We'll most likely get Cold Domination. And I'll be quite happy if we do. Thermal and Dark are just too powerful for trollers.
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Whilst You are most probably correct about Cold Domination (i'm pretty certain that will be the one defenders get too), what is your basis for suggesting Thermal would be overpowered? I've not played the set, but it seems to combine elements of Empathy, Sonic and Kinetics, all of which are available to Controllers.
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Not all in one package though.
Just looking at Thermal and it's a superb support set combining decent shields, a demezz, a nice buff, healing and two debuffs which look perfect vs AVs (Heat Exhaustion for the -regen and Melt Armour for the AOE -resist).
It'd be nice for Defenders though, especially if they got the Fire secondary too (imagine the chaos, a "healorz" set combined with the most aggro grabbing blast set going )
I think of the 3 available blast sets, it is pretty clear that Ice is the most defendory, so defenders are sure to get Cold Domination, not Thermal, this time round.
As for thermal, I don't think it would be as powerful as kinetics or rad on a controller.
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I think of the 3 available blast sets, it is pretty clear that Ice is the most defendory, so defenders are sure to get Cold Domination, not Thermal, this time round.
As for thermal, I don't think it would be as powerful as kinetics or rad on a controller.
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I agree. But then I don't think Controllers should have Kin or Rad as Secondaries either (or Dark, obviously), but its too late to fix that. All they can do is avoid adding to the mess
Im thinking either Plant/rad or plant/sonic. Maybe even /thermals if that is ported. I think plant/rad would be the best but i already have a 50 ill/rad...do i want another /rad controller?
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We'll most likely get Cold Domination. And I'll be quite happy if we do. Thermal and Dark are just too powerful for trollers.
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Whilst You are most probably correct about Cold Domination (i'm pretty certain that will be the one defenders get too), what is your basis for suggesting Thermal would be overpowered? I've not played the set, but it seems to combine elements of Empathy, Sonic and Kinetics, all of which are available to Controllers.
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Maybe I misused the word "overpowered". What I meann is that there should be a line between villain and heroes powers. For me Thermal and Empathy are two of the greatest sets of the game, therefore it's a good thing they're on opposite sides. Giving Thermal to heroes and Empathy to villains feels just wrong imo.
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Finally, controllers get plant control. I have tried it on CoV but because i am used to controllers never got anywhere with it now though lvl 50 Here I come!