Ruptors left out again...................


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............"• Flares for Blasters and Dominators range increased from 60’ to 80’ "

Why have corruptors been left out? The game is already inblanaced in favour of heroes and blasters load of love recently is unfair. Domintaors being repaired a bit lately is good at least, but its about time corruptors got some love, as it is, we are like a poor mans defender except we cant even do as much damage as them.


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Firstly, I would imagine that is quite possibly an error in the patch notes, although I haven't been on test to try it out - have to wait and see.

Secondly, corruptors are, quite frankly, awesome. I would certainly not describe them as a "poor man's defender". You have the option of playing more defensively or more aggressively depending on team, damage is impressive with the debuff secondaries anyway, and scourge is certainly one of the best inherrants in the game.


 

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Why have corruptors been left out? ... but its about time corruptors got some love, as it is, we are like a poor mans defender except we cant even do as much damage as them

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Huh? That's far from the truth in my extended experience. Corrs are actually an overall awesome AT already as they are atm. Nothing much to be desired to be 'fixed' imho.
And most likely corrupters were left out the patch notes by accident like Wyx said.

P.S. personally i just skip flares, especially as a cor since you got loads of other much better options.
Blasters can have some use for it as they can still activate this 1st tier power while being mezzed and it offers them a dam boost.


 

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Would agree with you to an extent but only if you have a debuff secondary, sadly I took thermal, and the only 2 powers helpful to me are the top ones melt etc

Hopefully its just an omission, although it would be nice to get the "shoot while ur held option" too


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It's already been confirmed by Castle in the US that this is an error of omission from the patch notes. Corruptor Flares were affected the same as the others.

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...I took thermal, and the only 2 powers helpful to me are the top ones melt etc...

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The only Villains with Flares should be /Fire Dominators.


 

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Flares power is pants and even if they trebled the range on it i wouldnt choose it...


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Really? I find it pretty good now they have sorted the animation out.


 

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It is pretty good, and actually has the same base damage as fire blast without the dots, recharges faster and costs less end, well that's what I found out on my fire dom, and with the new animation it's awesome


 

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The OP does have a point. Maybe its time corruptors had a blast set exclusive to them.


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Unfortunately the time of the 'exclusive' set seems to have passed.

Any AT gaining exclusive rights would be deemed unfair, overpowered and anything else jealous eyes want to come up with just so they can play a Pistols Defender...because nothing screams defending more than a hail of bullets.

Also, hai!


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The only toons with Flares should be /Fire Dominators.

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Any AT gaining exclusive rights would be deemed unfair, overpowered and anything else jealous eyes want to come up with

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You mean like "but in that movie the scrapper type character uses pistols!"

oh and, lo there!


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The OP really has every fact wrong... Unbalanced in favour of heroes? What are you talking about? Pretty much everything in Villains can solo...
- Blasters needed that "load of love", as their inherent was pretty useless, much unlike Scourge.

- Why is it good that Dominators get "repaired" but bad that Blasters do?

- I really have no idea how you got the idea of a Corruptor just being a bad Defender from... and since when do Defenders do more than Corruptors?

My Corruptor is probably my favourite toon, and the most fun to play- as well as the most powerful!

I'm sure you're overreacting and looking at your Corruptor out of perspective, try playing them a bit more and a bit higher and I'm sure you'll see where you've gone wrong.


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sadly I took thermal, and the only 2 powers helpful to me are the top ones melt etc


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Thermal is overpowered


 

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This thread jumped out from a case of err and has merrily run aground elsewhere on the globe.

I'd never agree that Corruptors are broke, borked or even bjork. I love them, I find them more enjoyable than a blaster, and defenders only appealed after I realised I can turn them into inverse-corruptors (or you know..just Offenders).

I'd just like a primary we can laude over others, much like Electrical Blast, don't think I haven't seen it lauded at me.

That opportunity seems to have passed though, I personally never saw why Tankers got Dual Blades as it just screams 'ME SCWAPPAH' and after teaming with a few */DB Tanks and hearing other horror stories I still wonder why, but if they had left it out then the forum would be tipped upside down by an angry mob.


**On a different note: Ruptors? Why would you want to make a lovely AT sound like something you whisper bashfully to your doctor.

"Doc, doc....I can't sit....I have ruptors.."


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Personally I'd love Electrical Corruptors .

A unique set. Well yeah that would be nice. As for the chances being gone...hmmm.... harrr... dunno. I don't see that it would be 100% not going to happen, but yes the whole thing with DB across all the melee toons makes it feel like that (I personally hate the thought of DB on Tanks and think they should have something new that's unique to them).

I think it'd be nice if any new powersets were to come in the future that maybe they came in pairs. A unique for heroes and a unique for villains.

VEAT aside ofc, were well bloody overdue it .


 

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The OP does have a point. Maybe its time corruptors had a blast set exclusive to them.

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there are very few exclusive powersets around, and corruptors have 2 of them already. Plus they have access to sets which blasters and defenders don't both have access to.


 

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The OP does have a point. Maybe its time corruptors had a blast set exclusive to them.

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there are very few exclusive powersets around, and corruptors have 2 of them already. Plus they have access to sets which blasters and defenders don't both have access to.

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Moderately off-topic, but these are the exclusive powersets that i could remember off the top of my head:

Controllers: illusion and earth controls.
Blasters: All secondaries unique but most share powers with other sets. All primaries shared with defenders or corrupters
Defenders: Psychic blast as unique as it gets, but this is v similar to dominator's psychic assault. All other sets shared among Blasters, corrupters, masterminds and controllers.
Scrappers: Broadsword.
Tankers: Battle axe and mace
Khelds: largely unique, although most powers ripped from other sets

Brutes: Elec melee and elec armour
Corrupters: Thermals and cold domination
Dominator: Secondaries are largely ripped from other sets so can't really be classed as unique. Plant control is tho.
Mastermind: Obviously all primaries are, secondaries have traps and poison as exclusive choices.
Stalker: Nothing exclusive, all shared with Brutes, Scrappers and tankers with a few tweaks to specialise them (eg Hide and AS etc).

By and large, kinda balanced imo!


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Stalkers have exclusiveness of /Ninja secondary, that is and always should be theirs. Stalkers share more with Brutes and Scrappers, the only thing from Tanks is Energy Melee and that is with Brutes all the same.

Traps is shared with Corrs, the only difference being the Tier 9; one is a timed explosion whilst the other is a pet exploding.

Tankers have the Ice primary and secondary as exclusives..well the primary especially. Once a brute set on beta, but it kinda inversed fury building. Who knew -Speed, -Recharge would do that?

I still stand by a Corruptor blast, just for shinies.


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I think in my experience as playing a rupter that the rupter powers I play are indeed under powered when compared to defender version. I play a sonic/sonic at lvl 50 and in no way can you say my buffs and debuffs are anyway near that of a defender, they also have irresistible debuffs, rupters don't, on top of their inherent. My rupter gets scourge which starts at 50% of my targets health with just a few % chance to kick in at 50% health this gives me about a 2% damage advantage over my defender counter part. As the main damage AT on villians at range this is [censored] poor.

I understand that there are rupters that are able to deal better damage than a lot of defenders, but it isn't the case for every rupter AT.

When comparing like for like with rupter and defender, rupters do in fact come out as a poor man's defender so I hope that these ATs will soon be looked at but I ain't gonna hold my breath for it.


 

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- I really have no idea how you got the idea of a Corruptor just being a bad Defender from... and since when do Defenders do more than Corruptors?


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A rad/pisonic can


 

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Power Boost etc is guilty for skewing high level Defenders.

Actually looking at the sets, there's more arguement that Dominators and Masterminds get treated to an extra primary/secondary. They're the most short changed of the lot with just 5 picks in each.


 

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- I really have no idea how you got the idea of a Corruptor just being a bad Defender from... and since when do Defenders do more than Corruptors?


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A rad/pisonic can

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Depends on the corruptor, in PvE certainly a Fire/Kin would do more damage.