Epic Pool for a Fire/Kin


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This is a copy/paste from the SG forums on behalf of Disco. Feedback would be *very* much appreciated:----

My Fire/Kin is struggling re: which Epic to take. I want to farm, but above all, I want to just do level 50 missions with my friends. I also fancy a bit of PvP, but nothing serious.

At the moment, I keep getting mezzed, which is horrible. However, Mez protection from Psi Mastery is only 90 seconds, with a 60 second cool down, which is inadequate at best. Is there anything I can do?

Fissure is cooler than Fireball, and I want to take it. However, am I right in thinking that resistance is much better than defence? Stone armour seems a bit rubbish in comparison.
What if I took tough too? Tough + Stone armour?
And what about PvP? Surely Res is much better than Def for PvP as everyone slots for accuracy.

I also love Consume.

Those are my questions and problems. Help me please!!


 

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I can only comment on earth sorry but yeah i love fissure as it does decent dmg especially with containment
Also be sure to take earths embrace, you turn into a tankintroller then ^_^
For farming though i would have to say your choices are either fire or earth. Would have to wait until someone with fire experience comes along though sorry


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don't apologise, thanks for the feedback! will copy/paste over to the forums for him!


 

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Ah, Disco. He's crazy

For farming I'd say Psi. Mes resistance/protection has got to help and it's not like he needs much more damage.


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For farming, Fire or Psi. IW can be made perma (or close) with enough +rechg from set bonuses. For PvP, Fire/Kin is not that great, so it doesn't matter that much although I would stay away from defense-based shields for a troller. You could also use Earth for farming: it will be slower but safer than the other 2. You shouldn't really need the Fighting pool on a Fire/Kin.


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fire, i've tried the others on testy. And with tough/fire shield i get 75% resitance, and who the hell needs more than that. Fire Ball recharges quickly enough, does decent damage and Consume is your Oh dear my tranference just missed button.

Anyway, you can choose, but i like fire.

HH


 

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I farm on my Fire / Kin / Fire

Take Tough + Fire shield
5 Slot each - 2 RES IO's 2 END RED IO's and Steadfast + Karma 1 in each for KB protection.

Simple farming consits of Unsing Unai Kemen's last contact mission from Tina. Its the last out of the Dimention missions and you will know it cause its full O gangsters. /t me in game ima show you it.

MEZ - in the form of Cinders or Flashfire
HOLD IN PLACE - Fire Cages straight away,
FULCRUM - Wait til your imps are within range
FIRE BALL + CAGES - til clear.
MOVE ON&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;


Dead easy, Consume is great for when Transference has missed or has not charged in timme, Also does nice Aoe Damage when your Fulcrum'd.

So without any doubt whatso ever.

FIRE/KIN/FIRE

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Earth works well for my fire/rad troller farming but having watched a fire/kin in action with psi im thinking of getting that myself, so i would go with psi


 

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Fire/kin/earth is good!
For farming, weave+Rock armor+CJ kicks [censored] defensively, EE is icing on the cake!


 

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Is Res not alot better that Def ?

a few accurate shots and your down... =(


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But if they did..........

 

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Is Res not alot better that Def ?

a few accurate shots and your down... =(

[/ QUOTE ]Def is better than res. Normally the numbers are better. Besides, when farming your enemies are normally the weakest of the lot, mins/lieuts. The odd shot that gets through? 50% heal every couple seconds!

Also, do you want to farm magic salvage or just plain family?


 

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tough and fire shield fully slotted gives 67.5% res S/L


 

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&lt;3 Primal Forces

Well, at least I think I will... in 3 levels... on my Grav/Kin


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Also, do you want to farm magic salvage or just plain family?

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Hmmm... Keep talking....


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Is Res not alot better that Def ?

a few accurate shots and your down... =(

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In PvE vs mezzing enemies Defense is usally better. Assuming your defense covers the mezzes type of course. More important for toggle heavy toons (like Fire/Rad) though.

Earth gives you extra health too via EE which is also good.


 

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Also, do you want to farm magic salvage or just plain family?

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Hmmm... Keep talking....

[/ QUOTE ]Psi is best for farming carnies, which drop magic salvage, which can be an insane inf yield. Anything is good against family (except primal), and they are the easiest things to kill, so good for xp *Cough* and prestige and the inf isn't too bad.
There is actually a mish where you can only fight behmoths (Infernal's mish I think) and that is great, because they don't mez. Fire would be OK for that: Great fire res but they resist the fire damage you deal. Stone would be fun I think.


 

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Also, do you want to farm magic salvage or just plain family?

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Hmmm... Keep talking....

[/ QUOTE ]Psi is best for farming carnies, which drop magic salvage, which can be an insane inf yield. Anything is good against family (except primal), and they are the easiest things to kill, so good for xp *Cough* and prestige and the inf isn't too bad.
There is actually a mish where you can only fight behmoths (Infernal's mish I think) and that is great, because they don't mez. Fire would be OK for that: Great fire res but they resist the fire damage you deal. Stone would be fun I think.

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I can tell you from experience that behomths resist to fire is 'slightly' nonexistant when you have +240% damage behind you Although its better to farm them at lvl 50 rather than 52 as invicability can be a [censored] even with tactics

Plus if you want to farm them for a solo on a 6man spawns the fire shield is kinda needed as 90% of their attacks are pure fire damage.


 

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&lt;3 Primal Forces

Well, at least I think I will... in 3 levels... on my Grav/Kin

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Is that a good choice for a Grav/Kin? I'm a long way off yet, but I'm a compulsive planner. Looking at the Epic pools right now, I don't have a plan, which makes me twitch.


 

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I have no idea, it just fits my Science theme


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Is that a good choice for a Grav/Kin? I'm a long way off yet, but I'm a compulsive planner. Looking at the Epic pools right now, I don't have a plan, which makes me twitch.

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Concept aside, it's a good choice if you want a full "support" toon meaning that you focus on hard control in teams (holds, immobs, stuns) and don't want to solo much. Primal doesn't add much to your kin powers (some are even bugged with PB like Transfusion) and is lacking an AoE attack, but Power Boosted mezzes are always great for both PvE and PvP.


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For Grav/Kin I'd go Fire or Earth personally. Fire for contained, fulcrum-shifted Fireball. Earth for an extra AOE mez (gravs a bit weak on that front). Which also does AOE damage. Plus best controller AOE heal in the game + power that raises your HP is a bit good too. And Defensive shields are handy in PvE.


 

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Awesome thing about psi and earth. FF proc in the AoE. Seriously, that pimped out my fire/kin/psi a load!


 

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Awesome thing about psi and earth. FF proc in the AoE. Seriously, that pimped out my fire/kin/psi a load!

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FF?