The Most powerful in the CoX universe...
hm... tough one
I'd have to say Acenra has an almost unbeatable will power, making him a fairly resistant to mind attacks. He also harbours the power of sacred light, so he can be a weakness to dark magic, but that lowers his resistance to dark magic, ergo, one of his weaknesses is dark magic.
The problem with RP and fudge, is that it's all too easy to make your character TOO strong. Not enough people seem to balance the extra feats their characters can perform with downsides.
For example. My Miss Ellie. RP wise, she has greatly enhanced vision, hearing and smell. Can move so fast she blurrs, is very strong and has energy claws that can slice through proto-steel as if it were butter.
BUT, the hearing makes her susceptible to high frequency sound. She's VERY reactive to catnip so put that near her and her sense of smell will betray her in a rather amusing manner. Her claws are SO sharp she almost never uses them; too dangerous. And her fullest speed can only be attained in light form, where basically she's just a floating ball of energy with no mass or friction to worry about, but she can only do that for a few minutes.
Even with those checks in place, she can at times be a bit overpowered. That's partly the reason she chose to retire as an active hero. Too many thugs got accidentally killed...
Of course, it's only human nature to make your characters as strong as is possible. In some ways, the limits you're likely to get in MUO will probably work better as it will counteract this natural tendancy. Afterall, everyone wants a hero as powerfull as Superman deep down...
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Agro the problem eh?
Superman is the strongest hero ever, even in the marvel universe he has bested thor, the hulk and anyone else you throw at him, infact Superboy-prime killed like 600 super powered villains and heroes in a mtter of seconds if I recall. IF the game was DC your character would conflict with the universe (Not you FFM, the collect you)!
The only major problem we have is like I said Characters clashing.
I already spotted one :P and I have never met you in game to my knowledge.
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Now one of my villains is made of proto-steel, which I based on my assuptions on it from true adamantum or better yet Captian America's Vibranium/Adamantum Shield! According to me and the Marvel universe, unless your claws are of a cosmic level of power, such as the Phoneix force, or the Beyonder, you should not be able to harm him at all, at the most you would scratch his exo-skeleton, and with time maybe even cut throught it, but according to you, your claws would cut straight throught him :P
HOWEVER, because of the undefined description of Proto-steel, other than its the CoX version of Adamantium, we could assume that a mixture of our stories are true, or with sufficent force you could cut throught him like butter, or depending on how thick it was, as oppose to MUO where I would technically be right (Unless of course your claws produce heat of serval suns combined going nova) but then again because of how expense adamantium is I could not have a character constructed entirely of it could I!
Good examples tho! Please continue! (Also I think to much into these things)
Well, Miss Ellie is a Peacebringer, so she is at least in part, MADE of cosmic energy effectively!
And clashing IS the biggest problem when it comes to RP and fudged powers. Like I said, everyone wants their character to be uber, and everyone likes to think they can beat anyone else. In reality, we cannot.
I've seen characters at GG that claim to be anything from a harmless cat, to the creator of the universe. In fact, that latter one, my character just laughed at him, called him a nutter, and did the twirly finger at the temple motion to him. Rather mean I know, but sometimes people do go WAY to far...
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Well, Miss Ellie is a Peacebringer, so she is at least in part, MADE of cosmic energy effectively!
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These are also one of those rare moments in CoX where you are bound by the canon, as a Peacebringer you are limited to the story of your race Another one kiddies is like I said with Mirror Spirit! She will always be more powerful than you if you are from this planet, human and this timeline! Yep we too have our Marvel Universe moments
Also I said Cosmic Power, not cosmic energy :P As in the ability to reshape matter on a large scale, like reshaping a planet, or solar system or traversing and creatin pocket universes, or godlike abilities. Also as far as I understood peacebringers are sentient light :P Cosmic energy is often considered energy used by beings that have godlike energy, like the Silver Surfer, Galactus, the Celestials, Beyonder, blah blah blah
Then again TRACOR-005 was originally a Forumn RP character, so his indestructablitiy was able to go unproven. Tho I have sense reconned him to have a few more weakness to make him easier to RP in game.
BTW are we having a character clash :P
Dragonfly has an enchanted crystal in her sword that allows her to shapeshift, levitate and coats her in a liquid-steel armour thats only really as strong as iron. This is a defensive uber-sword, so it doesn't make her crazily powerful.
There is a second sword which Genesis Blade now uses, that has a different crystal which generates heat energy, boosts flight/foot speed and also manipulates time. The latter ability is controlled however. The user of the sword can only re-trace their steps back in time as far as their memory allows, its best use is for teleporting.
I have loads of other heroes but their powers aren't fudged as much as the swords.
Actually, there's not that much background information on Kheldians readily accessable. You have to play through the arcs and the Moonfire TF to get the information you need to RP a Kheldian, or go to a fansite and look up all the story arcs there. The same goes for a lot of other parts of the game, missing or delayed backstory, and if it comes out later and clashes with your character backstory, you have to work out what to do.
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Well, Miss Ellie is a Peacebringer, so she is at least in part, MADE of cosmic energy effectively!
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These are also one of those rare moments in CoX where you are bound by the canon, as a Peacebringer you are limited to the story of your race
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Actually, there is VERY little real information about Kheldians in the game, which tends to give a LOT of scope for players interpretation on them. All we DO know about Kheldians for sure, is that they are an energy based lifeform (not sentient light), they come from outside our galaxy, and in their natural state only have a 10 year life span. Everthing else is 99% supposition.
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Again, there is no canon information to indicate the nature of their energy state. Unfortunately, for a lot of people the lack of concrete information about Kheldians tends to make them very difficult to RP. Personally, I don't have that issue as, as long as I don't break the canon we DO have, I feel I have free reign to use my own ideas. And if they should release more information in the future, well... I'll probably be more non-canon then; but until such time one persons ideas of Kheldian nature is just as valid as anothers.
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Personally, I don't have that issue as, as long as I don't break the canon we DO have
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As I recall, you have, a couple of times. Voyd being a case in point.
To the OP: I was pretty much there when 'community' RP started on Union, and I stuck with it until I couldn't take it any more, which took about 18 months. The totally unstructured characteristic system of the game has, in that time, resulted in just about everyone god modding left, right, and centre because there was no one and nothing to stop them.
I created magical amulets for anyone I liked which gave the wearer a screen against empaths and telepaths which could not be bypassed because I was sick of people abusing those powers.
I created a man who could not ever die (Jason Caine), because it isn't actually possible to die in this game.
I think not having an actual character structure to provide some level of consistency between the realisations of our characters has been very bad for roleplay in the game.
I think the poor background (Kheldians are worse than most, but the actual city background isn't a lot better) has been even worse for roleplay in the game. It doesn't help that the background is designed to make you feel like the only worthy hero below the Phalanx when everyone else is doing the same missions. It doesn't help that they keep rewriting the background whenever they need to tweak something (*cough* Faultline *cough*).
BTW, while walking would be cool, the number and types of emotes has got so much better that Cryptic need congratulating.
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Personally, I don't have that issue as, as long as I don't break the canon we DO have
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As I recall, you have, a couple of times. Voyd being a case in point.
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Actually, Voyd did NOT, and still doesn't, break canon; I checked that most carefully before making him!. Simply because he comes from a time where we have NO canon material. Lots of people misunderstand what he was meant to be and I've pretty much given up trying to explain as no one listens.
Yes, he WAS a mistake to make, and he's not coming back; please bear in mind though, that he was made when I was still fairly new to RP!
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True it is much easier playing a speedster with a hyper accerated metabolism, if he can pull food out of no where now thanks! YAY food emote for me!"
I do agree to a certain degree there raven, even to the point where many a time I was about to post a thread that got us all to agree on certain things in game so that RP wise we don't mysteriously have clashes.
However A Marvel type universe with too many established charaters that are the best or second best in there filed kinda downs your creativity abit I think. You say I can lift 200 tons, and then someone says, can't! Thor is the strongest being and he can only lift 150 you have to lift less or you ruin the universe!
Aye, a lot of the games backstory simply isn't there, or has been delayed. I had several characters from the Hollows, but it took one and a half years for the Hollows zone information to be posted, and even then as I recall it didn't give a definative date on when the Hollowing took place. We're still waiting for zone info on many zones, background on heroes and villains.
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Actually, Voyd did NOT, and still doesn't, break canon; I checked that most carefully before making him!. Simply because he comes from a time where we have NO canon material.
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Creating canon is breaking canon. I think I said that the first time we did this. You created (basically) an origin creature for the Kheldians. That's bad.
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Yes, he WAS a mistake to make, and he's not coming back; please bear in mind though, that he was made when I was still fairly new to RP!
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And this is why it must be brought up again and again so that younger roleplayers don't make your horrible mistakes.
We shall track down your great-grandchildren so that they can be told the story, and pass it on down through the ages. Oh how they'll laugh.
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And villian groups! Lol they only release info every 2 months on one, and only on the america sites..
Wow talk about bumming me out guys, I has all like hey! No squashed creativity ya!
I always add a major flaw to my RP alts with power-o-muches, ever supes gotta have Kryptonite/magic/red solar radiation!
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Why do I now forsee the "Don't Do As We Did" RP'er thread coming?
*Checks her list of things on that*
It'd be a long post. :<
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We shall track down your great-grandchildren so that they can be told the story, and pass it on down through the ages. Oh how they'll laugh.
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Come now, he wasn't THAT bad and did actually have his uses! Afterall... One of his favourite passtimes was taunting and winding Jester up... Something that was very worthwile!
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even to the point where many a time I was about to post a thread that got us all to agree on certain things in game so that RP wise we don't mysteriously have clashes.
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Don't even think about trying. Various attempts have been made before. What you get is a lot of bad blood and disagreement.
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However A Marvel type universe with too many established charaters that are the best or second best in there filed kinda downs your creativity abit I think. You say I can lift 200 tons, and then someone says, can't! Thor is the strongest being and he can only lift 150 you have to lift less or you ruin the universe!
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Have you ever actually played a Roleplaying Game, UN? Not an MMO, not a computer RPG, a real, pen-and-paper game?
In a game like that, you have statistics for your characteristics. If you say you can lift 200 tons, then you better have the Strength Stat to do it, and the rules will tell you if you can. There's no guessing, no "mine is bigger than yours", you just compare numbers.
Real games often have carefully constructed backgrounds as well, without holes in you could fly a Rikti warship through. They publish background details beforehand, and then you have a GM who passes out the information to the players as required. So, if you were playing a Kheldian, the GM would hand you a package of basic information every kheldian should know (i.e. half the stuff you get from playing the game).
The kind of thing we see in the Kheldian arcs is what I like to call "elitist player syndrome". It happens buckets in Live RP. Let us take an example from one of the systems I play, Lorien Trust (LT). It goes like this:
New Player (NP): Hi, I'm new here, I'm playing a farmer and I'd like to know about the worship of Sithis.
Old Player (OP): Well, tommorrow at time-in, get your kit on and go talk to a Priestess of Sithis. This is a roleplaying game, you know.
NP: But... I'm supposed to be a typical member of the country and all the peasants worship Sithis, right?
OP: Most of them, yes.
NP: So, surely I should know something about the worship of Sithis already.
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OP, who now has a fixed grin and glazed eyes: This is a roleplaying game. You have to find out through roleplaying. Excuse me, I need to go get my weapons checked...
So, my first character in LT came from outside the Heartlands. That way, the fact that he didn't have a clue what was going on made perfect sense.
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Well Hidden can attack minds directly... but... uhm, thats about it... oh and he's the last survining elf from his planet
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Come now, he wasn't THAT bad and did actually have his uses! Afterall... One of his favourite passtimes was taunting and winding Jester up... Something that was very worthwile!
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Maybe, but he used to wind me up too. That's me, not my characters. I used to avoid your roleplays like the plague when you were on one of your Voyd trips.
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Heh... You'd have been spitting blood at all the god types that turned up during your absence then...
They seem to have gone now though...
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The most powerful in the CoX universe? doesnt everybody know its Chuck Norris?
Arcs a pretty good archer and has mild control of flames,besides that he can use magic to some extent and thats it,alot of weaknesses of course...oh so many...
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I don't create anything with a weakness in this kind of roleplay. It's asking for someone to come along and tell you they can abuse it.
FFM: No, I wouldn't have been spitting blood, I'd have just been somewhere else.
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Sara is just pretty much indestructible by most means. She's just about my worst (active) foray into goddage.
One thing I must say though. I don't think most are setting out to make characters that are uber, we just start out with ideas that are along the lines of "wouldn't it be nifty if...?" or "I wonder what would happen if...?" and get carried away, largely because there's nothing except common sense and rp consensus to tell us we can't. Less malice, more freeform lunacy.
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I think I may have brought this up in a post way back when i first got the game. My "search fu" as some people call it, is not good, as I lack the attention span.
I was just reading a post in the US forumn, and I thought , how lucky are we as CoX players when it comes to Rping and Fudge.
Some would disagree and say that, we don't have enough choice/customization/walking abilities that makes it suck.
HOWEVER we due have a few things that make us lucky. Our Universe is not well defined. Especially interms of power. Think of it this way if you don't get what I mean.
Marvel Universe Online. Great universe to be in, good back story, full of characters we know and love, but defined amounts of power. In my opinion this limits Rp value you as in CoX we pretty much have free ranged to be as underpowered or as powerful as we want within the story. With of course a few exceptions, Like Lord Recluse being the world's greatest stratgest, the Rikti weapons able to hurt those invulnerable to most things, Mirror Spirit being the most powerful magical being in the world and a few others. Something like in Marvel you can only ever be forth or fifth best. Wolverine regens the fsatest EVER, Thor is the strongest EVER, Kree have the most advance tech EVER. Because the Universe is so defined, we cannot change certain things because it would disrupt the universe itself. If you told me, "my character is more powerful than Galactus," I would go, "how when he is barely as strong as thor?"
In CoX you can say "I am stronger than Statesman, and I would go cool thats prettty strong, because no where in the canon does it say he is the strongest hero ever, it says he is the first one in paragon, but not the strongest. Like if we were in the DC universe, you couldn't be faster than flash, stronger than supes, or your weapons more powerful than a green lantern ring!
Aren't we lucky! We are only hampered by our fellow Rpers goin that's abit outta hand dude.. or that goes directly against canon, as oppose to standing against the almighty concept powers of Mr. Stan Lee.
So I was just wondering, what characters do you hold that benefit from the non define universe?
For me its twilight shinobi's sword which can cut throught almost anything but Proto-steel and magically absorbing metals.