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There are more or less no realistic characters in this game.

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Or in the superhero genre. Realism has to be left at the door, but game mechanics aren't. Take fly for example. In comics, flyers tend to fly at speeds approaching Mach 1 or more, but in game they tend to cruise around at around 70mph? One way to justify this would be to say the city had imposed flight speeds following some sonic boom related incident. Maybe a previous flyer flew past Statesman's window at mach 2, spilling his coffee over him...you get the idea. Silly I know but hey.

I avoid magical characters unless I can think up a new, interesting slant on them. For me superheroes are best when they're born different eg Mutant, get their powers from an external source eg radioactive blast eg Science, or are simply paragons of human skill eg Natural. But that's just my own feelings towards my own characters. I've encountered loads of Magic based characters who were excellent eg War Crow, Stargazer, Memory but it's just not my bag. Think I'm more Silver Age focused :/


 

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I have a toon with the Natural Origin. She's a kat/SR Scrapper. Dodging bullets isn't realistic for a normal human in the real world, but it is for a highly trained human in a comic. Her travel power is Superjump, because I can rationalise it as a swingline system. I could have picked Superspeed, but only OC. She has this huge Harley she drives around on and I could rationalise long distance travel as riding the Harley.


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I have a bullet-dodging natural toon too (oddly, my Kat/SR as well. ) Her speed and agility are mostly born of athleticism, as I set her up as a one-time All-Paragon Parkeur Champion, which means she can jump buildings, to a degree (fast climbing, rooftop runs, kind of thing.) The main thing that pushes her reactions into supernatural is just a touch of uncontrolled precognition (Not enough to need to be having visions of the future, so avoiding that insanity and game-breakingness) but just enough to combine it with training akin to the defensive aspects of Gun Kata, to mean that she dodges bullets by more or less not being where a bullet is going to be at any given moment, and that when she's fighting, she's always in the right place at the right time. Doesn't always work (she's not that brilliant at it yet) but it's at least entertaining.

And that's the nearest I'll ever get to any of my characters being able to predict the future.


Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

 

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Superspeed tops out at about 95 miles per hour anyway, so unless you're going to exceed the game-imposed limitations, you don't need any clever way of stopping him 'burning up' or whatever

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We have several ways that restricts him in game:

number one, A partner of mine is senstive to sonic vibrations, once in forumn RP i went super sonic and it knock her out. So he limits himself for her.

Number two: he has a habit of using his powers destructively, so he has been told to reduce his over speed or risk repercussions.

and I have more. This is a fantasy setting therefore this lets me use some fantasy for the unexplainable, and the unachieveable. While it is debatable at this moment in time if engineering a human to run 95 mphs is possible, in this world what i purpose is possible when you look at synaspse :P I don't feel the need to jusify my powers in this world, but in the CoX world.
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humans are very badly designed for high-speed running.


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Humans are he is not

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I have a toon with the Natural Origin. She's a kat/SR Scrapper. Dodging bullets isn't realistic for a normal human in the real world, but it is for a highly trained human in a comic.

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What you did there is no different from what I did. You took something in the real world and exzagerated it. genetic engineering isn't that advance in this world, but in a comic world it is. I ddin't say may characters have to be 100% realistic, just some of it does to satisfy my own weird needs.

I thought you would like my trai of thought:P Like, how does a winged hero fly in a narrow corrider when his wing span needs to be emormous to sustain flight?

Winged humans can't exist here. But they can in CoX, but i rationize it to my best. He can glide sorta in door like a large bird swopping in and out of trees in a forest. He has enhanced strenght. why ? Not because I want him to so much as it rationizes how a human would be able to flap wings hard enough to fly when we don't possess the muscle strength to do so.

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Doomsday characters should be banned. Doomsday scenarios do not work in any way in games like this. What happens if you fail to abort the Apocalypse exactly?


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Umm I think you are confused here Raven? Doomsday the character that killed superman?

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Probably not a lot. It's only about 10000 miles per hour, say around 3 miles per second

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either the earths alot small than i thought or in its about 69 miles in circumferance....

Considering the earth is 924,375,700 km in orbital circumfeance he is more likely traveling at about
40190247. 82 km per second :P


 

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Uhoh pedantry alert!


 

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Errrr? what you talking about?


 

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Doomsday characters should be banned. Doomsday scenarios do not work in any way in games like this. What happens if you fail to abort the Apocalypse exactly?


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Umm I think you are confused here Raven? Doomsday the character that killed superman?



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He means doomsday characters as in a character that can destroy the world. That's usually the accepted meaning of doomsday! Mind you, characters like DC's Doomsday should be banned too! If anything just for sheer aesthetics! He's one UUGLEEEE mother!

And he has a point. If you make a character that can bring about the apolalypse; what happens if you DO fail? Nothing, nada, zip.... The world carries on because you CAN'T end the game world. Therefore your characters MUST succeed in stopping him and you have a railroaded plot. That's where his reconning that doomsday characters should be banned comes from, and I agree wholeheartedly with him!


@FloatingFatMan

Do not go gentle into that good night.
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Considering the earth is 924,375,700 km in orbital circumfeance he is more likely traveling at about
40190247. 82 km per second :P

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He means doomsday characters as in a character that can destroy the world. That's usually the accepted meaning of doomsday!

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I knew that Floaty! Lol. I meant he got the character confused with the term. TRACOR-005 can't bring about the end of days, he is just like dommsday, nigh immpossible to defeat physically!


 

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either the earths alot small than i thought or in its about 69 miles in circumferance....

Considering the earth is 924,375,700 km in orbital circumfeance he is more likely traveling at about
40190247. 82 km per second :P

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Your statement is correct, but completely the wrong calculation.

Earth's orbital radius is approx 149 million km. That's it's distance from the Sun. So its orbital circumference is approximately 6.25x150x10^6 km, which comes out at about what you suggest.

However, Earth's Radius is around 40,000 km (40,057km). Doing that in 23 seconds is about 1739km/s. Which is about 150 times escape velocity. After the first step, the character would fly into space at a tangent to the point where he last touched the surface.

In fact, if memory serves from my Astrophysics degree, unless there is a force actively pushing an object towards the Earth in addition to Gravity pulling on it, the absolute fastest it is possible to circumnavigate the globe is around 85 minutes (I'll let someone else figure that out) without flying off into space.

Now, I accept that comic-book physics allow us to ignore little things like the laws of physics, but I personally like an explanation.

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*watches as everyone frantically scrambles to find the proof for this* Trust me, it's true.

I'm not saying that I don't accept fudginess - after all, my own main breaks a few physical laws and I don't bat an eyelid: For example, he weighs twice as much as the Earth does (maybe that explains the otherwise inexplicable attraction certain female toons have towards him?). I just wave my hands and say 'Because of some freaky thing involving his mental picture of himself as a human being, he somehow negates most of the effect of his mass'. It's never come up as a point of contention, though. So I can ignore it.


The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise. ; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise ; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*

 

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Hmmm this is turning into one of those lab coats and spectacles on the end of the nose threads!


 

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OOps duh! lol hmmm i looked at the wrong numbers! I just look at where I got my reference :P Silly me I admit it I was wrong there :P


 

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he weighs twice as much as the Earth does

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I think I have to disagree there... Shadowe is a sentient black hole, right? A black hole about the side of a human being would weigh a HELL of a lot more than the Earth does! You might even be reaching the regions of MY weight!


@FloatingFatMan

Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

 

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I knew that Floaty! Lol. I meant he got the character confused with the term. TRACOR-005 can't bring about the end of days, he is just like dommsday, nigh immpossible to defeat physically!

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If Superman HADN'T defeated Doomsday, it WOULD have been the end of days!


@FloatingFatMan

Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

 

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Nah, it's entirely possible shadowe keeps most of his mass somewhere else, linked through hyperspace.

*geekery*


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Shadowe is a sentient black hole approximately the size of a golf ball (roughly 2cm radius), and by an incredibly rough cut calculation it can be determined that his mass should be about twice that of the Earth.

Not wanting to go into the ridiculous background of him, but his body is effectively an illusion created by his mind because that's what he expects to look like. (Unconscious fine control of gravity and particles enables the hole to craft a body around itself. Because Richard expects to have a body, he's got one. Because he expects to weigh around 70kg, he seems to. Etc.)

So, while I agree with you, FFM, that a human-sized black hole would weigh a lot more than I suggest, you're still slightly wrong.


The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise. ; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise ; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*

 

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So, while I agree with you, FFM, that a human-sized black hole would weigh a lot more than I suggest, you're still slightly wrong.

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Fair do's... Now explain how a piece of highly radioactive superdense collapsed stellar material becomes sentient!

(Actually, I'm genuinely curious about that...)


@FloatingFatMan

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Either way were he to lose control of himself the Earth would implode into him....

*wonders if Shadowe is ticklish* Mwaahahahahahah


 

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/me contemplates all the jokes he could make about Shadowe being superdense... All IC of course!


@FloatingFatMan

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Erm... there's something in the GG Wiki about it.

The quick answer is that Richard Huntington was engaged in an experiment to create a (relatively) compact energy source, which involved siphoning Hawking Radiation from a small (roughly 3cm radius) Black hole that he had created in his lab (yay for comic book physics!). It was protected from influencing the world by a combination of anti-gravity generators (very bulky) and a force-field.

However, when the siphon was switched on, the force-field failed (though not completely - it actually split the hole - don't ask me to go into the physics, it's a bit wierd and somewhat esoteric), bathing everyone in the lab in a humungous dose of radiation. Simultaneously the hole flew across the lab and hit the newly irradiated Richard in the chest, killing him. However, his mind had reacted strangely with the radiation, and had become an energy matrix, which has since become trapped around the black hole, and is now actually Richard. Because his mind expects him to have a body, he unconsciously created a new one for himself, and still does so - in much the same way new cells are created in a normal human. So, he's really a sentient black hole that appears to be a normal human.

The rest of the black hole hit Andrew Martin - Psychonova - who was recently absorbed by Richard, and was one of two other survivors of the accident. The other survivor was Samantha Huntington, who only got a huge dose of radiation and spontaneously gained powers.


The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise. ; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise ; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*

 

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Aaah, I get it. THAT sort of thing happens all the time in comics, no worries there. I thought he'd ALWAYS been a black hole!

Love the sig btw... How's the back?


@FloatingFatMan

Do not go gentle into that good night.
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I failed to Float the Fat Man: Brighton Feb 2007

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How? By pushing him in a river?


 

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I failed to Float the Fat Man: Brighton Feb 2007

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How? By pushing him in a river?

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Hoplite picked me up!

Shadowe tried it and nearly gave himself a hernia...


@FloatingFatMan

Do not go gentle into that good night.
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Kinda reminds me of Dr. Manhattan....now he was cool!


 

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FFM, Shadowe, please stop that. There are several basic mistakes both of you are making here.

1. A black hole of that size is not radiocative, FFM. A black hole, of itself, cannot be radioactive since it can't give out any radiation. It's a black hole.

2. A black hole in any region of matter will, indeed, give off radiation in the form of intense x-rays, but that's due to all the local matter being ripped apart as it passes over the event horizon.

3. Due to a neat little quibble of quantum physics, black holes about that size can, at any instant, spontaneously release all their matter in an explosion which... well, let's just say you don't want to be there when it goes off.

All in all, I think we can safely say that that character needs to be left alone with the "it's magic" explanation.


Disclaimer: The above may be humerous, or at least may be an attempt at humour. Try reading it that way.
Posts are OOC unless noted to be IC, or in an IC thread.

 

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1. A black hole of that size is not radiocative, FFM. A black hole, of itself, cannot be radioactive since it can't give out any radiation. It's a black hole.


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Actually, black holes DO emit radiation. Hawking Radiation in fact... So ner!


@FloatingFatMan

Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.