I would 6 slot it when you can - 3 Resistance 3 Defence. I think the base resist is 50%, base defence 20% - both are worth 3 slots; slotting resist first is the way to go.
Yup, 3 slots defence, 3 slots resistance is the formula to become an unkillable wall of stone.
10lvls and no debt 
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doesn't that give u more defense then an ice tanker :S. Granite needs a nerf.
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doesn't that give u more defense then an ice tanker :S. Granite needs a nerf.
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Ice tankers don't have a movement speed or recharge rate debuff when using their armors 
Granite is number one top of my needs to be nerfed list. I cant think of more spectacularly unbalanced power in the whole game...
Risk vs Reward? pfffft! Try telling a fire blaster and a granite tank that...
They are happy with it as it is, its balanced with downsides.
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Granite is number one top of my needs to be nerfed list. I cant think of more spectacularly unbalanced power in the whole game...
Risk vs Reward? pfffft! Try telling a fire blaster and a granite tank that...
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As already said! The devs are very happy with how granite it and TBH with all the -movement -dmg etc! I'd have to agree!
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Granite armour comes with -acc -dmg -spd and -recharge. Killing any mob of consequence takes a looooong time.
Beating down an even lvl minion takes 2 runs through the attack chain, which isn't even a chain and there's a pause after I go through 5 attacks (including brawl) before brawl recharges again.
If I remember from the hero builder, granite fully slotted with 3 and 3 gives around 30% defence and 78% resistance to all but psionic attacks.
They excel against certain mobs, like the Crey, but are put under sever pressure by the likes of the Carnies. Even the rikti mentalists can cause problems.
It's easy to look at granite and think; risk versus reward? Pfft!! But always every AT can organise themselves some risk free XP, fire blasters included, and could gather that risk free XP at a rate that would make a stone tank drool. I remember when I was bored with my PB I'd find a big even spawn, hover above them, hit build-up, shift into squiddy form and 2 shot the whole spawn. Hows that for fast, risk, free XP?
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I know, I know, the devs dont agree with me, Nobody agrees with me...
And Im sure everything is balanced, and everyone gets exactly the same risk...
Pffft.... The Granite tank told the Fire Blaster...
Granite is overpowered. There is no need for it to have any defence for a start. It doesn't gain that much from it though. Granite is not a way of gaining great xp it's just a way of avoiding debt. A GA tank can happily go on a mish against +5s but the rest of the team will probably die so whilst the tank has avoided a few k of debt he has to sit there waiting for everyone to get back from hosp. Best xp is usually against +2/3s and you don't need GA for that.
Granite, overpowered? Bah, granite is, and will always be gimped, unless they remove all the penalties.
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If they do that it will be overpowered! :P
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Granite is overpowered. There is no need for it to have any defence for a start. It doesn't gain that much from it though. Granite is not a way of gaining great xp it's just a way of avoiding debt. A GA tank can happily go on a mish against +5s but the rest of the team will probably die so whilst the tank has avoided a few k of debt he has to sit there waiting for everyone to get back from hosp. Best xp is usually against +2/3s and you don't need GA for that.
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I avoid +5 mishes as you're right, it's not fair on the rest of the team. There' no way you can hold aggro if mudpots isn't hitting and so all you're being is a very ineffectual scranker. I wonder what it was like before the defence revision of i7.
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Granite, overpowered? Bah, granite is, and will always be gimped, unless they remove all the penalties.
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It depends how you look at it. In terms of tanking then all the penalties make it about balanced. In terms of it's ability to stay alive when facing stupid odds, it's overpowered. As Cognito says, there is no real risk when using it (except against psi). As I said, I don't think there is any real reward either. A granite tank won't speed the mish up with more damage and will probably be slightly less good at holding aggro (which will slow things down a bit). It's rubbish for soloing. The only time I can see it really getting a reward is if you team with people several levels higher, don't sk up and leech.
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Somehow from all the replies about Granite armour I've seen from u MaX I get the ideal that you don't have anything good to say about this set then, you are replying identically to questions about Stone in the Brute section.
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Well one way to solo is to "run" past all mobs going straigt for the objectives and end room. Mobs will trail after you as you go along.
If too many following you and you have to click a glowie you can usually drag them away from the glowie and TP back with enough time to click it.
Red cons are a problem as they will take forever to kill. When my AoEs have killed all the minions I switch to Rock Armor and kill the Boss (with the possibility to change back to GA if needed).
But ofcause its much more fun to be in a team as a tanker.
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No -Acc with Granite armour.
All Stone tankers in Granite Armour love kinetics!! Speed boost to allow them to move & recharge powers at a more decent rate and Fulcrum Shift to get the damage problem sorted out.
When I play my kinetics toon, I love to see a stone tanker as I know he should be able to keep me save (also running tactics) as I tend to go into melee range.
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Granite, overpowered? Bah, granite is, and will always be gimped, unless they remove all the penalties.
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Somehow from all the replies about Granite armour I've seen from u MaX I get the ideal that you don't have anything good to say about this set then, you are replying identically to questions about Stone in the Brute section.
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Granite, overpowered? Bah, granite is, and will always be gimped, unless they remove all the penalties.
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Somehow from all the replies about Granite armour I've seen from u MaX I get the ideal that you don't have anything good to say about this set then, you are replying identically to questions about Stone in the Brute section.
lol
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goto say i would stay well clear of being a granite brute.
totaly agree Max.
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I'm fairly sure there is, as are Warcry and Coldfront, which being at work are the only sources I can look up at the moment.
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I take it you haven't seen my brute in action in granite armour then.
He's always first in taunting and smashing his way about, the -30% to damage is quickly overcome by fury and having the typical brute slotting on all attacks ie.2 acc,2 end disc and 2 recharge means his attack chain is ok, and he can do things other brutes can't do.
Admit it MaX, there's nothing personal here, but you must of had a bad experiance with one at some time m8, and now see it as not good for you.
Anyone who has mished with my Brute Hammerok on Defiant will tell you what he's like, and unlike tankers Granite brutes still dish out loadsa damage.
Soloing a brute in granite is fun also, you can gather up 3 mobs and take them all at the same time, mudpots, tremor and now disruptor blast firing off all the time, fill in your other melee attacks as you can, firing off the aoe's as there available, and soon 15 squishy messes and loadsa rocks on the floor.
The first 31/37 lvls can be a pain for a stone armour, but they have good alround defences, and when granite comes along it make you smile. Slotted 3 res and 3 def, along with stoneskin slotted 3 res, and a brute should also get Tough and slot it 1 end disc and 3 res, and your away.
So have fun all and see you all on for another round of smashin later 
And have you seen one in action macmoo?
Granite can dish out decent damage, I do agree on that. However, a brute in granite will never be as fast and damaging than a brute outside of it.
Ive just gotten my Granite Armor and plan to 3 slot it for resistance. Do you also slot it for defense?
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