Hard to beleive mind does not have a mass confuse isnt it?
You get the stunningly powerful Telekinesis at level 12, as well as Total Domination and Terrify later. The Dominator powerset is the same as the Controller - what has Plant got to do with it?
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Hard to beleive mind does not have a mass confuse isnt it?
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Mind does have Mass Confuse, but it's the last power you can pick up.
To reiterate:
Mind gets mass confuse as it's lvl 32 power. Plants get it at lvl 8.
Mind doesn't get a pet because of this, Plants get a giant flytrap.
Instead mind has mass sleep at lvl 8...
Yes Levitate is a good situational power (tanks hate the repel, it sucks end etc.) but not as regularly useful as a lvl 32 pet.
It's like me having a jack frost at lvl 8 and sticking two fingers up at an ice dominator.
*Sticks two fingers up at wammy* 
Yeah it is a bit unfair TBH but I think the mass confuse in plants is a cone power and it dose grab agro unlike mass confuse. But im not sure about this but plant is an awsome set I am having so much fun with Siberian Ivy it should not be allowed. 
As Rock says, it's not the same power; if you're so keen on the power set...why not play a plant Dominator?
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Hard to beleive mind does not have a mass confuse isnt it?
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Mind does have Mass Confuse, but it's the last power you can pick up.
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Thats right yes. Been so long since I looked at the power list I forgot. Not leveled old baldie up in a while. I stand corrected. Thanks Stasis
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As Rock says, it's not the same power; if you're so keen on the power set...why not play a plant Dominator?
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Because I've done 37 levels of Mind before realising it's a weaker set. There I am running around all happy with my mass confuse, and suddenly a little lvl planty comes and does it as well.
Mind has terrify, after playing my dominator to 40 and getting another to 12 I stopped and made a mind dom. I wish I was mind/Ice with my main, the lack of pet isn't an issue when you have a group effecting power for every group you come across, rather than trying to fight a couple while your control comes back.
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They were appropriately appalled
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They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
I'm mind/ice myself(40), I really don't think it needs any love :P Sure I'd welcoem any additions it may get but really it is great as it is. I personally think mass sleep is pretty useless but I havn't tried it so I cna't comment (seems useless it a team to me).
I've not tried the plant confuse so I can't comment but mass confuse is really great, it has a huge aoe range, easily enough to hit everything in the group). It doesn't grab agro (unless you run in close after missing somehting) which makes it an excelent opener.
Terrify is another really great power, such a short cool down, massive cone range. Excelent follow up to mass confuse (if you don't want them all killing each other, exp..).
Telekenesis is just great, hugly situational which is a very bad point but get a bunch of mobs all lined up... wow 
. So powerful.
I've not tried any other dom but I've played along side some plenty. Pets.. pffft :P who needs pets. Mind is easily one of the best, certainly theres little things I like from each of the dom sets but I totally disagree that mind needs anyhting else.
Mind doesn't need help any more than the other shared troller/dom sets, if anything it needs less. It's Plant that is awesome, and to be honest Plant doms do make my ice dom feel a bit inadequate. They just get so many great powers
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As Rock says, it's not the same power; if you're so keen on the power set...why not play a plant Dominator?
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Because I've done 37 levels of Mind before realising it's a weaker set. There I am running around all happy with my mass confuse, and suddenly a little lvl planty comes and does it as well.
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I will remeber that misson for ages mate just dinged lv 8 and we run off to the next misson and I say "watch this" throw out seeds of cnffusion and your all like "WTH I HATE YOU" 
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As Rock says, it's not the same power; if you're so keen on the power set...why not play a plant Dominator?
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Because I've done 37 levels of Mind before realising it's a weaker set. There I am running around all happy with my mass confuse, and suddenly a little lvl planty comes and does it as well.
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I will remeber that misson for ages mate just dinged lv 8 and we run off to the next misson and I say "watch this" throw out seeds of cnffusion and your all like "WTH I HATE YOU"
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I hate you
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Because I've done 37 levels of Mind before realising it's a weaker set.
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Only thing it needs is shortening the confuse animation.
Oh, and don't comparre pet to mass confusion, compare it to terrify, which is mind's damaging power, and beats a pet any day (apart for a sing, but then again grav is weak otherwise).
Grav isn't weak
Terrify is minor damage and is more of a slow than a hold as they still tend to do stuff when terrorized, it's not a complete lockdown even with 3 confuse durations in it
Mass sleep is poor, telekinesis is situational, mass confusion another powerset get at lvl 8. I still think they need some love
Seeds is particularly brilliant for soloing, but has also been the cause of most of my deaths when used on teams...
The whole "run right in front of a huge group of thugs and fire cone" is great when it works, but if there are too many in the group (max affected is less for a cone) or you just get unlucky and see a sea of MISS rising, then instead of fun you're a squishy who just grabbed ALL the aggro!
Seeds is a really strong power for the level, BUT it is by no means the equal of mass confuse...
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Mass sleep is poor, telekinesis is situational, mass confusion another powerset get at lvl 8. I still think they need some love
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Mass Sleep makes telekinesis far less situational, IMO. And Terrify, whilst not a Hold, is a great deal better than the mass Immob or Slow effects which tend to be present in other control sets. Mind remains my favourite, as you can probably tell - but then I always thought having another useful control power at 32 instead of a pet made it a better Controller set, too.
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I'd consider swapping Mass Confuse and Terrify around, but I want it earlier for my mind dom
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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Mass sleep is poor,
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this just isn't true. Granted it is of limited use when in a team, but that is mainly because other AC's are too impatiant to allow it to do it's job and start waking everyone up willy nilly. lol
Where mass sleep comes into it's own is when you are soloing. I use it as a first hit power. It genrally puts at least 80% of the Mob to sleep, provided that you are not facing anything too powerful. This gives you the precious seconds that you need to lock down the higher con enemies with single target holds so that you can deal with the weaker targets first. It is a really powerful ability when it is used well and alows me to solo larger groups without taking too much of a beating.
it will probably be replaced with better powers as I increase in level, but for now it rocks.
After taking mass hypnosis with my low-lvl controller and nearly losing my mind in couple teams, I decided strongly against taking mass sleep ever again.
My dominator is currently soloing fine without any need of mass sleep. I plan on taking invoke panic along with intimidate instead, when I get that far.
About the Terror power - is it as good as Fearsom Stare? I swear my corruptor can perma terror people in PvP with that.
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About the Terror power - is it as good as Fearsom Stare? I swear my corruptor can perma terror people in PvP with that.
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Nobody can perma-terror anyone in PvP, its called suppression.. But I agree fearsome stare is impressive
I hope terrify is equally good, I don't have it yet.
Mind does one thing very well: Control.
Controllers rate it as fairly high for that reason. It doesn't have a pet, but it doesn't need one in my opinion. I know that Dominators have weaker control duration than Controllers, but it's still powerful.
I don't see what all the fuss is about...
The fuss is mainly about Plant getting my lvl 32 power at lvl 8. Even though slighty weaker.
If I had Singularity or Jack Frost at lvl 8, how fair does that seem?
Plants get Mass Confuse at like lvl 8
Mind gets it at 32 but no pet.
Serious needs to be sorted.