To all roleplaying guild leaders
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People, you don't have to give up what you love to be part of a roleplaying community.
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Not to sound repetative, but I think it has been pointed out, we already -have- an established community.
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There will be nothing saying you have to be a certain archtype with a certain background. Be as creative as you want, do what you want. It is your character, your RP, no one elses.
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The same goes for that character's surrounding, the people he/she interacts with, what he/she does in their life, both with or without mask etc, etc, etc.
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A simple ruleset isn't bad nor evil, nor will it hurt RP one little bit in any way, shape, or form. It may only be active at events.
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People already run their own events. At present, I am actually running a large scale, free for all plot at GG. I don't need set rules to keep my players entertained.
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Making a community is a tried and proven method of bringing more RP to a game, not olnly that but better RP. It'll take away the need to search for another roleplayer, it'll give all a common ground to roleplay with.
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Again, my friend, there are already two of those places; under the Galaxy Girl statue in Galaxy city and under the statue of Atlas in Atlas Park. We do not need any rules or guidelines, nor do we need more places to meet up.
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The city/area we declare as ours will have but one single difference then all the others, you'll be under a ruleset.
You are fine to RP wherever you want however you want, but there... it's sacred. No OOC in "area chat", things like that.
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Let me get this straight; You want to 'claim' an area in the city and set rules that everyone will have to follow? And how exactly do you think you can accomplish this, when not everyone in this game or on this server is a roleplayer. You will not get the GM's support, so quite frankly, I have one question for you; Who do you think you are, Statesman?
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To you RPing n00bs, it may sound harsh, I know. But it isn't, it makes for a much more enjoyable experience, gives you much deeper roleplay and such. You can use group chat or tells to convey what you need to OOCly.
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First of all; How dare you? For this, I can assure you, you will be reported. You have just joined the game, don't know any of us, or the established roleplay community that we have repeatedly pointed out already exists. I have had nearly 10 years of experience in tabletop, LARP and MMORPG's. For you to turn around and call the lot of us noobs, when you have just joined as far as I can see, a few days ago, comes down to flamming and trolling in my perhaps not so humble opinion.
Just because we are opposed to your idea. Sorry, but this is a free-style roleplaying game, if you cannot deal with that, please, return to SWG where it seems to be better in your opinion.
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This can and will be a good thing, I promise. You have my word. It will bring much better roleplay to the Union server, it'll be great.
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With words like you have spoken just now, you come across as a dictator, and again, for someone who just joined the game and tries to bully his way into an established roleplay community and tries to take control, I really wonder who the real noob is...
EDIT: P.S. Are you actually listening to anything we're saying, as I see you come up with all sorts of comments, but you never really reply to anything -anyone- of us have said.
Yeah. I ahven't exactly read a post yet. Sorry. I'll do that now.
Basically, i'm looking to make a single area the offcial "RPing zone" and such, much like Mos Entha is on the Chimera server.
Rules?
Well, they'd be simple ones.
No OOC in area chat, no power emoting, things of that nature.
And, how dare I? Ha. I didn't do anything. I simply was addressing the n00bs in this community, not the vets. Rules can be scary, I was attempting to reasure people. I'm not calling anyone a n00b, not at all.
I've been with this community since launch. Yeah, big shock.I just haven't posted.
All i'm trying to do is bring high quality RP to CoV and CoH. Nothing more. A constant flow of high quality, deep roleplay.
Forgive me if i've sounded like an [censored], I didn't mean to come off that way.
you mean like the common sense rules we've had for the past year?
maybe you should read posts in a thread you started before you try to reply to them..
To clearify, by n00b I meant "new people". As in, new roleplayers to this game.
And well, i'm judging from what i've seen, and no... the RP thus far has been lacking. Very lacking.
I'm not pointing fingers, not saying you all "suk @ RP l0l", far from it.
I think it simply needs structure.
Don't you DARE turn this into a flame fest.
what kind of examples do you have of poor Rping and what classes an rp as "poor" or "high quality"?
also just a personal aside - would you be so kind as to mark your edits as such? just so we can keep up?
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Basically, i'm looking to make a single area the offcial "RPing zone" and such, much like Mos Entha is on the Chimera server.
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What, you mean like Galaxy Girl in Galaxy City, which has been used for nearly a year? Not everyone's cup of tea, but people are allowed to have different tastes, and it doesn't stop them RP'ing in groups and locations that they like.
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Rules?
Well, they'd be simple ones.
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Like the ones we have already, that are unwritten because they are basically common sense and good manners?
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No OOC in area chat, no power emoting, things of that nature.
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I simply was addressing the n00bs in this community, not the vets. Rules can be scary, I was attempting to reasure people. I'm not calling anyone a n00b, not at all.
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All i'm trying to do is bring high quality RP to CoV and CoH. Nothing more. A constant flow of high quality, deep roleplay.
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Deep roleplay? That's not everyone's taste. Some of the best moments I've had in game are the light RP talks between characters, purely social. No saving the world, no dire threats, just good friends and aqquaintences talking. High Quality is subjective, as well. Your definition, mine, the guy in the hat's and the Queen's are all going to be different.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Cause otherwise you just tighten the screws too tight and then get in a right mess when you need to change something inside. Or smack something with a screwdriver and break that. Then you get those little fiddly plastic bits that break and you can't stick them back.
It's not lacking in the sense of talent or whatnot, just... consistancy and structure.
One minute, i'll be rivieted, on the edge of my seat, the next the RPer is yelling about level 11s and grouping for a mission.
It needs structure, hence why i'm wanting to label one single area as a RPers town/zone. That single area will be under a ruleset similar to Mos Entha's, modified for CoV.
It'll provide everyone with a place to roleplay, and as i've said before, a constant flow of RP. No more hunting about for roleplayers.
And, I totally apologize for the n00b comment, I should have clearified. I wasn't directly calling anyone a n00b, I was in fact addressing the "n00bs". As in, new people to the community, new players, new RPers.
I'm so very sorry for the misunderstanding.
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As I can see it isn't wanted, and i've [censored] you people off, lets drop the subject. I'll post it again in a few weeks, have a ruleset up, and an area in which I want to use.
Once again, i'm totally sorry for the comment, wasn't meant to offend. I'll do more research, post again in a few weeks or something.
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One minute, i'll be rivieted, on the edge of my seat, the next the RPer is yelling about level 11s and grouping for a mission.
[/ QUOTE ] No RP'ers I've met at GG have done that. People who've wandered in and not know we were RP'ing asking for a team, yes, but other than that...
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It needs structure, hence why i'm wanting to label one single area as a RPers town/zone. That single area will be under a ruleset similar to Mos Entha's, modified for CoV.
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What, you mean -like- -Galaxy- -Girls- -Statue- -is- -in- -Galaxy- -City- -on- -Union-? Yes, it can't include CoV, but at the moment only 4 zones can. Three of them will get you killed probably for standing about, the last is fresh in and not everyone's scene.
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It'll provide everyone with a place to roleplay, and as i've said before, a constant flow of RP. No more hunting about for roleplayers.
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See above.
When it comes to roleplaying, its a very personal experience, and as such it's extremely hard to point to someone and say 'you're a bad roleplayer' unless they're new at it, then you give them encouragement.
I've been roleplaying since 79 so I think I have a modicum of experience in the hobby.
And, as for structure, the GG community has structure, we have underlying plots, main themes and the ad lib roleplaying.
The rules you have suggested are, for the most part, common sense and we don't need them made official, as for the rest, they are too restrictive.
If I was to be forced to play a tabletop game with such restrictive rules, I'd tear up my character sheet and walk out.
Sorry, but there it is.
Not meaning to seem rude Harvik. But have you been to GG? If so, what character were you? WHo'd youtalk to when you were there?
If you haven't been. take a few minutes to actually go there at 9pm any night of the week to Galaxy girl (behind the freedom corps building) in galaxy city on UNION server.
Harvik? Your an Idiot. Have fun with your community, Because you know what? I'm sticking with mine.
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Yeah. I ahven't exactly read a post yet. Sorry. I'll do that now.
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Uhm, sorry, but would it not have been a good idea to have done so in the first place, would have saved a hell of a lot of typing. :-)
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Basically, i'm looking to make a single area the offcial "RPing zone" and such, much like Mos Entha is on the Chimera server.
Rules?
Well, they'd be simple ones.
No OOC in area chat, no power emoting, things of that nature.
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That's nice, we're playing CoH here, not SWG. :-) Also, the rules you describe are already in force at GG. No need to take credit for something that is already in place, and has been for nearly a year.
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And, how dare I? Ha. I didn't do anything. I simply was addressing the n00bs in this community, not the vets. Rules can be scary, I was attempting to reasure people. I'm not calling anyone a n00b, not at all.
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Perhaps a word to the wise then; Consider your words carefully when messing powerful words like those. Needless to say, you've not made any friends with them, I would say quite the opposite. Tell me how it is, then, that so many people individually scold you for that one?
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I've been with this community since launch. Yeah, big shock.I just haven't posted
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Have you now? Such an esteemed roleplayer, such an elite, has been there since launch, and until the 1st of Feb 2006 has never even activated his account to the forum? Sorry, mate, that doesn't sound very credible to me.
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All i'm trying to do is bring high quality RP to CoV and CoH. Nothing more. A constant flow of high quality, deep roleplay.
Forgive me if i've sounded like an [censored], I didn't mean to come off that way.
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Last time; Thanks, but no thanks. GG already has just that.
Forgiveness comes to those who deserve it, you sir, have not. If you did not with to come across as such, you would have read what we said, and you would certainly have phrased your words more carefully.
If you have, as you say, been with the ommunity since it's launch, which I seriously doubt, I assume you have been playing with your eyes screwed tightly shut.
Otherwise you would have seen the depth and variety of roleplaying which exists on Union.
No, I think you're one of the rats leaving the sinking ship which is SWG.
Not that I'm inferring All SWG players are rats, just using a similie.
You guys have no right to slander me or flame me, none what-so-ever.
I totally apologize. I came into this with the gun half loaded, I totally admit.
And screw you for calling me an idiot.
I know I did somethings wrong, I once again admit to it and apologize.
I'm not a big forum person, I have been with the game since launch. I read, never saw a need to post.
Once again, i'm going to look around, see what place would be suitable for this. At the very least, i'd like to launch a few events for us roleplayers.
I'll repost in a few more weeks, hopefully after you all have calmed down and i'm a bit more educated.
I totally apologize for the misunderstandings, and the half-baked idea.
I meant no harm, in fact I mean the opposite.
You meant no harm, but admit you went into this fully unprepared? You critisize an existing roleplay community, who say they do not need you 'expert opinion', yet you insist on giving it and indeed forcing it on us. You insult us every step of the way and you expect us to listen again? You didn't make a very good impression, I suggest you just drop the subject entirely, and we will accept your apology.
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You guys have no right to slander me or flame me, none what-so-ever.
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and right back at ya by the way..
just as a side note (from the ever-wise Stoof here) it's "Half-Cocked" rather than half loaded
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just as a side note (from the ever-wise Stoof here) it's "Half-Cocked" rather than half loaded
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Now the idea of a group of heroes claimng an area of the city in a pseudo-facist take over styleeeeeeee is a groovey plot idea
I await your padded out suggestions, though it does look like some of the issues you mention are mirrored in the "with the world or against it" thread ( especily talking about character Security levels which some of us use as a valid IC tool and others dont ).
DG>
First Rule of CoX RP: It shall be fun.
Second Rule of CoX RP: You should not Godmode.
Third Rule of CoX RP: Outside the First and Second Rules, there shall be no "right" way.
Rule 4: There is no Rule 4.
Rule 0: Don't be a [censored].
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
hmmmm and how long before we get:
Rule 22b: pig tails win!
"And screw you for calling me an idiot."
No thanks, im the romantic kinda.
*thumbs up* I just call them like i see them.
Ok, I'd just like to voice the opinion of one of the newb's ( note spelling ) to both CoH and to role-playing.
I happened to pass GG one night, the group of people hanging out and chatting away caught my eye and I decided to mooch on over and check it out.Within a short time the basic "unwritten rules" were blatantly obvious and then it was just a case of joining in at a sensible point.
Now, if there was some kind of rule-set in place, which I wouldn't know of as I'm a complete learner at the game (keep hitting WoW hotkeys and really messing with stat bars, power trays etc, never a good thing)then I'd be more than a little put off by some-one telling me that I'm doing it all wrong and calling me a n00b. Who would want to play in a community like that? Prison camp anyone?
I like the community at GG as it is, I might not know all the skills needed to be a truely great RPer, my spelling sucks for a start, but at least I'm learning about it, which is more than I would had the rule-set been in place.
Thanks for listening, hope it made sense at this time of morning
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just as a side note (from the ever-wise Stoof here) it's "Half-Cocked" rather than half loaded
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From the days of Flintlock firearms when they were uncocked, half cocked and cocked.
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That is exactly what I said to Quilla
First of, I'd like to know what is meant by 'better' Roleplaying. Has the OP actually observed any players in CoX?
Secondly, I find the term n00b to be highly offensive, even if it isn't aimed at me. I usually find that people who use the term are elitist and not much good at what they believe themselves to be great at.