H9ow good are we at PVP?


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PVP is something I have never actually attempted to try and I have a few questions if I may.

1.I was wondering what we are like at PVP. Are we well balanced with the other AT's?

2.I have a gravity/kinetics troller, are they any good in the arenas etc?

3. What do you think is he besr overall troller for PVP?

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1.I was wondering what we are like at PVP. Are we well balanced with the other AT's?


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*Rolls on the floor laughing* A controller can easily slaughter anything, spam enough holds and mezzes to overcome protection then just use your powers that do double damage with containment to destroy them.

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2.I have a gravity/kinetics troller, are they any good in the arenas etc

[/ QUOTE ] Yes. Propel and Containment just isn't funny, add to this Siphon Speed, Siphon Power, Transference, Fulcrum Shift, Transfusion...


 

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1.I was wondering what we are like at PVP. Are we well balanced with the other AT's?


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*Rolls on the floor laughing* A controller can easily slaughter anything, spam enough holds and mezzes to overcome protection then just use your powers that do double damage with containment to destroy them.

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2.I have a gravity/kinetics troller, are they any good in the arenas etc

[/ QUOTE ] Yes. Propel and Containment just isn't funny, add to this Siphon Speed, Siphon Power, Transference, Fulcrum Shift, Transfusion...

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what he said...


 

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*Rolls on the floor laughing* A controller can easily slaughter anything, spam enough holds and mezzes to overcome protection then just use your powers that do double damage with containment to destroy them.

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Pffft, you wish. The last controller I fought in Warburg lasted a full 20 seconds against my regen scrapper. That's not to say they don't do well against the villains but thought it worth pointing out there are hero ATs that scoff at the *might* of controllers


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*Rolls on the floor laughing* A controller can easily slaughter anything, spam enough holds and mezzes to overcome protection then just use your powers that do double damage with containment to destroy them.

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Pffft, you wish. The last controller I fought in Warburg lasted a full 20 seconds against my regen scrapper. That's not to say they don't do well against the villains but thought it worth pointing out there are hero ATs that scoff at the *might* of controllers

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Just out of curiosity, does the -regen of Transfusion have much of an impact on a regen's regen rate?


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Pffft, you wish. The last controller I fought in Warburg lasted a full 20 seconds against my regen scrapper. That's not to say they don't do well against the villains but thought it worth pointing out there are hero ATs that scoff at the *might* of controllers

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I guess its all down the the skill of the player correct? Also as a scrapper you dont have ranged attacks do you? What if the troller has hover and is well out of your reach, what do you do then?


 

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If the scrapper in question is a spines scrapper (which has got ranged attacks from low levels) I'm assuming they quickly teach that hoverer a lesson


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I guess its all down the the skill of the player correct? Also as a scrapper you dont have ranged attacks do you? What if the troller has hover and is well out of your reach, what do you do then?

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Watch him try to keep up with superjump? Or after I ding fifty and respec; tp him into smashing range? The point was not to diss controllers but highlight that for some of us a lone controller is nothing to worry about. I'm sure there's a lot of tanks out there who feel the same.


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Pffft, you wish. The last controller I fought in Warburg lasted a full 20 seconds against my regen scrapper. That's not to say they don't do well against the villains but thought it worth pointing out there are hero ATs that scoff at the *might* of controllers

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I guess its all down the the skill of the player correct? Also as a scrapper you dont have ranged attacks do you? What if the troller has hover and is well out of your reach, what do you do then?

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Buy a temp power such as jetpack.


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*Rolls on the floor laughing* A controller can easily slaughter anything, spam enough holds and mezzes to overcome protection then just use your powers that do double damage with containment to destroy them.

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Pffft, you wish. The last controller I fought in Warburg lasted a full 20 seconds against my regen scrapper. That's not to say they don't do well against the villains but thought it worth pointing out there are hero ATs that scoff at the *might* of controllers

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Just out of curiosity, does the -regen of Transfusion have much of an impact on a regen's regen rate?

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yes


 

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*Rolls on the floor laughing* A controller can easily slaughter anything, spam enough holds and mezzes to overcome protection then just use your powers that do double damage with containment to destroy them.


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Far too much of a blanket statement there, specific controllers have specific weaknesses and all will take a faceplant depending on who they face. My stalker munches controllers all day long (hardest for me is illusionist as the invis is very good) and it takes more than one troller to hold him due to entropy sheild which goes a long way to negating controller effects.

But controllers are a very good AT for pvp and our 8 man troller team can steamroller anything in its way with contemptuous ease


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But controllers are a very good AT for pvp and our 8 man troller team can steamroller anything in its way with contemptuous ease

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Id love to see that in action


 

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But controllers are a very good AT for pvp and our 8 man troller team can steamroller anything in its way with contemptuous ease

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Id love to see that in action

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*Rolls on the floor laughing* A controller can easily slaughter anything, spam enough holds and mezzes to overcome protection then just use your powers that do double damage with containment to destroy them.

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Its 3*damage with containment in PvP.


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*Rolls on the floor laughing* A controller can easily slaughter anything, spam enough holds and mezzes to overcome protection then just use your powers that do double damage with containment to destroy them.

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Its 3*damage with containment in PvP.

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i've heard about this before, having not done pvp with my controller outside warburg i've never experienced this, is the normal rate more than pve of is it just when theyre held it leaps to 3x?


 

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Ooooh, time to organise an SG outing

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Name the time and place, and im there ...hopefully


 

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Far too much of a blanket statement there, specific controllers have specific weaknesses and all will take a faceplant depending on who they face. My stalker munches controllers all day long (hardest for me is illusionist as the invis is very good) and it takes more than one troller to hold him due to entropy sheild which goes a long way to negating controller effects.

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AHEM! I think I could probably count the amount of times you've "munched" me on both hands, and I've certainly held you a fair few times too. Stacking over hold protection really isn't that hard.

In answer to the OP: Hell yes we are.


 

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i've heard about this before, having not done pvp with my controller outside warburg i've never experienced this, is the normal rate more than pve of is it just when theyre held it leaps to 3x?

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It's double damage in PvE.


 

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i've heard about this before, having not done pvp with my controller outside warburg i've never experienced this, is the normal rate more than pve of is it just when theyre held it leaps to 3x?

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It's double damage in PvE.

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yea i no pve just don't understand how this 3x works in pvp


 

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If you hit a NPC you get the 2*damage if the target is held, stunned, immobilised or sleeping.

If you hit a player you get the 3*damage if the target is held, stunned, immobilised or sleeping.

What is there to understand?


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just that, thanks


 

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Far too much of a blanket statement there, specific controllers have specific weaknesses and all will take a faceplant depending on who they face. My stalker munches controllers all day long (hardest for me is illusionist as the invis is very good) and it takes more than one troller to hold him due to entropy sheild which goes a long way to negating controller effects.

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AHEM! I think I could probably count the amount of times you've "munched" me on both hands, and I've certainly held you a fair few times too. Stacking over hold protection really isn't that hard.

In answer to the OP: Hell yes we are.

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yeah but you not in sirens that often and when you are you are teamed well and makes things harder, besides i never go after the same target over and over anyway. oh and you cannot hold me solo, energy aura is a sucky secondary IMO but entropy is pretty damn good, you cant slot it with def/res, its at maximum from the get go.

Oh and we did the 8 man troller team again in sirens and cleared the zone, hopefully some team dynamics will arise on the villain side soon as it was painful to watch


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Oh and we did the 8 man troller team again in sirens and cleared the zone, hopefully some team dynamics will arise on the villain side soon as it was painful to watch


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Damn that was good

Curse you TG, you made them all run away!!! *shakes fist*


 

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Oh and we did the 8 man troller team again in sirens and cleared the zone, hopefully some team dynamics will arise on the villain side soon as it was painful to watch


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We already pulled team like that 3 times now...well not much to say except we cleared the zone in couple of minutes.....and it was without all level 50 trollers..but a level mix...if we sit down and properly get an all level 50 troller team fully speeced for pvp uh i think it will be insanity...


 

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Is mind control considered good? I know it has a load of sleep powers and more which give a bonus to your general three damage attacks and hasten just sweetens the deal . But is it considered a good set because sometimes I keep thinking 'Why can't I have more damage attacks '