Heh, read the first post and couldn't stop laughing 
And i'm at work 
all your stalkers are belong to me except bloody spines...damn spines...
Tp foe in nice lil corner or a bus stop for the occasion or a cosy container+snowstorm+thunderclap+fossilize+autobraw l......
*does the habanero dance*
Oh in case stalker has tp self...
tp foe+fear+thunderclap+tp foe+fossilize+autobrawl
*does the habanero dance again*
except spines...
damn i hate spines....
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all your stalkers are belong to me except bloody spines...damn spines...
Tp foe in nice lil corner or a bus stop for the occasion or a cosy container+snowstorm+thunderclap+fossilize+autobraw l......
*does the habanero dance*
Oh in case stalker has tp self...
tp foe+fear+thunderclap+tp foe+fossilize+autobrawl
*does the habanero dance again*
except spines... damn i hate spines....
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Spines also makes a silly noise when it hits, sort of like stepping in dogpoop.
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Fiend Space: 211464
I don't run, I just hit PFF and laugh as 5 stalkers miss their AS over and over. Casually switch on Repulsion Field and then turn off PFF, watch them all go flying off and be on my way.
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Spines also makes a silly noise when it hits, sort of like stepping in dogpoop.
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that dogpoop hurts
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damn i hate spines....
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Make that flying spines, if you are about I dont even touch the ground as u zip about like a man possessed and if hurricane comes anywhere near me then i lose precious ACC for vital seconds, 
oh and I hate fear......
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Its your fault
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sure the stalker is powerful we do a AS and the enemy goes like w00t [censored] [censored] and we go like ROFL NOOB and then he either panics or run away or die.
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OMG How true is that
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sure the stalker is powerful we do a AS and the enemy goes like w00t [censored] [censored] and we go like ROFL NOOB and then he either panics or run away or die.
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OMG How true is that
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Thats so very not true. Stalkers currently are the number 1 AT exhibiting fleeing behaviour within the pvp zones which is only natural due to their build or inability to properly play the class for many out there. If you hear anyone say he has a non fleeing stalker in pvp prolly
a) he is part of a constant team that keeps attention off stalker
b) the stalker has smelled some hollows mushrooms and is hallucinating
Even the top ranking server stalkers which happen to be best stalkers out there (obot,momma and hack it and Dmonique) flee when they stalk. And thats priority. Survive to come back only stronger...The rest is air talk
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sure the stalker is powerful we do a AS and the enemy goes like w00t [censored] [censored] and we go like ROFL NOOB and then he either panics or run away or die.
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OMG How true is that
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Thats so very not true. Stalkers currently are the number 1 AT exhibiting fleeing behaviour within the pvp zones which is only natural due to their build or inability to properly play the class for many out there. If you hear anyone say he has a non fleeing stalker in pvp prolly
a) he is part of a constant team that keeps attention off stalker
b) the stalker has smelled some hollows mushrooms and is hallucinating
Even the top ranking server stalkers which happen to be best stalkers out there (obot,momma and hack it and Dmonique) flee when they stalk. And thats priority. Survive to come back only stronger...The rest is air talk
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haven't met a stalker in pvp that hasnt run away yet, once spent half an hour chasing one....got him in the end tho i agree stalkers shud run but sometimes they cud try have a couple of attacks instead of as soon as they no we can see them running like the wind
the hit and run tactics is totally viable since the hide is the basis of all stalkers since in toe to toe combat the stalkers are simply cannon fodder. However listening stalkers saying "ROFL NOOB WHY U RUN" when every single stalker out there runs is simply laughable. Any decent pvper out there takes stalkers for breakfast...best example the highest ranking bounties in sirens on hero side right now are not scrappers or tankers that can stand the stalkers damage but my controller and imaginary blaster....2 squishies. Hearing some stalkers complain that the others run simply is biggest joke ever.
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sure the stalker is powerful we do a AS and the enemy goes like w00t [censored] [censored] and we go like ROFL NOOB and then he either panics or run away or die.
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OMG How true is that
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Thats so very not true. Stalkers currently are the number 1 AT exhibiting fleeing behaviour within the pvp zones which is only natural due to their build or inability to properly play the class for many out there. If you hear anyone say he has a non fleeing stalker in pvp prolly
a) he is part of a constant team that keeps attention off stalker
b) the stalker has smelled some hollows mushrooms and is hallucinating
Even the top ranking server stalkers which happen to be best stalkers out there (obot,momma and hack it and Dmonique) flee when they stalk. And thats priority. Survive to come back only stronger...The rest is air talk
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Think you misunderstand what im saying ^^ im saying the target flees not the stalker why would a stalker flee from an AS'ed target ?
So that he can hide and come back to finish it later safely.
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Also the point is being made that stalkers complaining about people running is ridiculous: no-one runs like stalkers do the moment they realise they have been spotted.
Generalising of course: good stalkers will cut their tactics according to what they face and run or not based on that, same as any good player.
Running is a viable tactic. If you can't build to cope with it then either team with someone who can or shrug and just go 'ah well' when someone runs.
No-one is about to stand there on the point of death and wait to hand you a free kill.
I love this thread, its so silly.
My MA IDs:
Fiend Space: 211464
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the hit and run tactics is totally viable since the hide is the basis of all stalkers since in toe to toe combat the stalkers are simply cannon fodder. However listening stalkers saying "ROFL NOOB WHY U RUN" when every single stalker out there runs is simply laughable. Any decent pvper out there takes stalkers for breakfast...best example the highest ranking bounties in sirens on hero side right now are not scrappers or tankers that can stand the stalkers damage but my controller and imaginary blaster....2 squishies. Hearing some stalkers complain that the others run simply is biggest joke ever.
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no-one runs like stalkers do the moment they realise they have been spotted.
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There is one particular Spines scrapper in Sirens call with a 2 letter name who runs worse than anyone, hes a poor player, only gets opportunistic kill steals. Not only does he do this he contstantly sends abusive and insulting tells to the villains whilst not having the intellect to turn on villain chat, suffice to say he is on my ignore list and I have, and advise others, to petition his behaviour, playing a game and getting abusive tells is not on imo.
So you see its not just stalkers who are hypocritical about running like a girl and complaining of this behaviour in others
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I always run if things get nasty... I'm no tank, I can't take on too many hits, and the defense ain't that great. Anyone who wants me to stay will have to MAKE me stay. Otherwise I'm out of there to hide and try another approach.
I don't get it... do people EXPECT stalkers, who are one hit wonders, to stay and fight?
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Think you misunderstand what im saying ^^ im saying the target flees not the stalker why would a stalker flee from an AS'ed target ?
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No you misunderstand me...the things is any stalker that complains about targets fleeing is a newbie in pvp as for ASing people try come AS an experienced pvper and not the usual lonely unsuspecting preys out there and we see who runs. There is not a single stalker out there who hasnt fled yet so if u feel lucky look me up and i can train you how to run when u get feared toggle dropped and slowed..and not forget put in a nice cossy corner where you cannot flee Word advice to all stalkers. Start speccing in tp. Makes fleeing easier ...The AS part try speaking to some of the experienced stalkers out there and see how many of them land AS on experienced pvpers. They actually are forced to rely on impale and crit dmg more to get their work done. ASing an experienced pvp team is simply laughable and is not going to happen unless something goes wrong to the team.And dont start on me the 1vs1 usual excuses that stalkers come up with. PvP zones are not for 1vs1.When i come in there i come with my team and prepared.
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Word advice to all stalkers. Start speccing in tp. Makes fleeing easier ...
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I need no stinking TP Admittedly it would be nice but my my build doesnt have the space for 3 travel powers or the real need for it, I gotta die sometime
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Word advice to all stalkers. Start speccing in tp. Makes fleeing easier ...
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I need no stinking TP Admittedly it would be nice but my my build doesnt have the space for 3 travel powers or the real need for it, I gotta die sometime
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u not need cause u picked wisely enough your secondary
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Or looks at health plummet below half, clicks Dull Pain... and tadaaa! you are looking at a Tanker at full health - and then some - again... with Knockout Blow queued for attack .
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[...] sure the stalker is powerful we do a AS and the enemy goes like w00t [censored] [censored] and we go like ROFL NOOB and then he either panics or run away or die. [...]
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Or looks at health plummet below half, clicks Dull Pain... and tadaaa! you are looking at a Tanker at full health - and then some - again... with Knockout Blow queued for attack .
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Or looks at health plummet to near zero... realises Defiance is almost maxed out... and knocks you down, hits Buildup, Energy Punches you, then knocks you back, then shoots you...
Most Stalkers don't make it as far as getting shot if the first knockdown hits.
I love it when people forget that blasters can hit hard in melee, especially when they have just taken a pounding...
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Or looks at health plummet to near zero... realises Defiance is almost maxed out... and knocks you down, hits Buildup, Energy Punches you, then knocks you back, then shoots you...
Most Stalkers don't make it as far as getting shot if the first knockdown hits.
I love it when people forget that blasters can hit hard in melee, especially when they have just taken a pounding...
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Wasn't it about scrappers?
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Err... No.
The whole thread is about Stalkers; running away from Stalkers, Stalkers running away, AS and responses to AS.
My post was about why I don't run after my Blaster gets hit with AS.
In sirens I can kill a stalker with BU and defiance from AS with just my two ranged attacks ice blast and bitter ice blast. Yes I do run so I dont get the next attack that will kill me, but not far because Im also trying to kill the stalker
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controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr
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Get another attack in instead of typing insults?
Tryed stacking caltrops for slow and using them?
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Caltrops dont stop the enemy from jumping or flying >_<
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Caltraps stop you from jumping but you can fly off them.
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hmm sweet didnt knew that it stopped jumping.. btw this quote thing must have somekind of record :P
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Clearly you never saw the CoV beta boards
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Or the time when someone was aggrieved and made a massive rant (well slagging stuff off) and turned it into a pyramid. It was ofcourse deleted but with all the quotes being made it became one hell of a pyramid!
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i remember that, it did get big.
about the "stop moving! i want to kill you in 3 hits!" thing. if you use caltrops, damage will be dealt to them in criticals, making the AS useless (i think) so, the best way to do it is to have it on auto, teleport to them and then strike. not sure if it would work, but i believe it should.
toodle pip.
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I was more thinking of, AS caltropes, hit em a bit.. they start flying running whatever, then i teleport em back to me, making them stand on the caltropes again and then BOOM!!! placete AS again they dead.. how does that sound?
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Get a ninjitsu stalker with caltrops, TP-foe + a Travel power with vertical movement.
Stack caltrops on the warwall above the hero base.
TP-foe -> placate -> AS. Scrap the rest if needed.
A 1 hit kill button actually, but its prolly also griefing.
Ps. Works best with nrg cause they have energy transfer.
A Paragon Defender
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Every one runs its a valid tactic apart from regens they should have there legs removed or some thing.
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Nah we'd just grow another or two, then we'd have four legs to kick the stalker with.