Hasten: still worthwhile?


Amazing_Shnyet

 

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I'm thinking of dropping hasten in a respec and compensating with an extra redrec or two in each power (on my nrg/nrg blaster). Has anyone tried this and if so did it work?


 

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id rather drop 2 End Red in each power and drop the fitness pool to be honest. Get 2 extra powers and a few more slots. (see the Ranger thread for more details X

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I put three Rchg on my defenders heals and dropped Hasten. I think it may be even quicker to recharge than just using hasten. should be the same with your blasts.


 

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I put three Rchg on my defenders heals and dropped Hasten. I think it may be even quicker to recharge than just using hasten. should be the same with your blasts.

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Putting three recharge in a blast would seriously affect a blaster, generally now the makeup of a blaster who doesn't have targetting drone is 1 acc, 3 damage and 2 others, in my case probably 2 recharge.

I haven't respec'd my blaster yet for ED (at least I don't remember doing it ) but my controller kept hasten. 2 SO recharge is supposed to equal hasten but I felt it was a little slower than that.


 

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It worked for my main - dropped Hasten and now all my "damaging" attacks (everything except Power Push, basically) are slotted 1 Acc/3 Dam/2 RecRed.

Seems to work well enough, with fire rate close enough to the old 1/5 + Hasten build that I can't really tell the difference.

That's with En primary, mind, so I'm "lucky" enough not to have any useful slottable secondary effects that might otherwise compete for enh slots...

Kept 3 slotted Stamina, and with the occasional strategic use of Conserve Power I don't have any end problems to speak of.


 

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I agree that 2 recharge felt slower than Hasten.


 

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Depends on you primary and secondary. For most builds keep hasten.


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I've dropped it but added a recharge to some of my key attacks (and kept stamina).


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Kept hasten and slotted all my primary damage attacks with 4 dam/2 recharges. Powers cycle nicely while hasten is running and the 2 recharge SO's compensate for the downtime on hasten. Secondry is devices though,so im using targetting drone to ofset the lack of accuarcy in my primaries.
I did initialy run with several defence powers but specced these out after ED and added in additional attack primaries.
While somewhat more squishy now i am finding i can spam a longer attack chain on the build,with minimal downtime on recharge and still keep the damage nice and high


 

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it depends i like hasten when i have a power that recharges over a certain period of time, basically any power that seemably recharges too long. for my tank its unstoppable and conserve energy i have 6 slotted hasten still because the last 3 slots gain me a whole minute on my 1000 second recharge, also i love hasten as it is 3 recharge on my blaster cos it means i can add lay as many mines as i can when i need too


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it depends i like hasten when i have a power that recharges over a certain period of time, basically any power that seemably recharges too long. for my tank its unstoppable and conserve energy i have 6 slotted hasten still because the last 3 slots gain me a whole minute on my 1000 second recharge, also i love hasten as it is 3 recharge on my blaster cos it means i can add lay as many mines as i can when i need too

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Yea fun time that was.. hope to do it more often


 

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running on melees and power sink alone i felt the hit of ED/stamina quite hard, but in a blaster blaster build then its not too important. however i genuinely feel it did make my blaster more fun as it allowed him to kill thngs faster and keep up with the ppl with stamina far easier.

on a similar note, my double acc i5 build solos better than an ED build without hasten. so for me ED rather killed a character who was nowhere near cookie cutter imo anyways :/

fun fun GL

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I'm thinking of dropping hasten in a respec and compensating with an extra redrec or two in each power (on my nrg/nrg blaster). Has anyone tried this and if so did it work?

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I tried that with my ar/devices blaster, all I can say is I'm glad I still have a spare respec to use. Two recharge enhancements in no way make up for the loss of hasten. Even the nerfed hasten is useful - leaves you stumbling about next to useless while it recharges (not perma any more) but while it's active your blaster can do some useful damage over a period of time.


 

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In my opinion definitley worth dropping, i respecced out of hasten after ED and slotted my attacks 3 dmg 2 recharge and one end red (devces blaster so accuracy covered by the dorne) and i have never noticed the difference in recharge speed.

Although i wish i'd kept Stamina, cursed fire blaster end usage


 

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ok, I'm getting concerned here. Most blasters are happy with dropping hasten so I decided to experiment. I put 3 recharge SO's (one 53 and two 52's) in each of my attacks. Chaining 4 attacks, the first one is not ready for use for 4-5 seconds after the 4th one has fired (unless I use a slow one like snipe!). Do the AR attacks naturally take longer to recharge than other blasters attacks or am I just lucky (?) This long recharge coupled with vastly reduced damage makes my blaster a mere shadow of her former self.

I did notice that full auto now recharges in half the time it used to, guess they realied they overdid that particular change last time...thanks for that


 

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Hasten.... hmmmmmm.

I reckon it depends on your personal build choice, but it certainly isn't the 'MUST HAVE' power it used to be.

I respecced Gale the other day and while I still took Hasten I didn't take it till VERY late in my picks. Certainly post level 40ish. Why ?

Well Gale has always been and continues to be a Empath that is slanted specifically for healing. Almost has no offensive capability. With that in mind my late game choices were taken to help in that role and not be biased towards any damage dealing.

I took the Energy Mastry Epic so I could get temp Invuln (cause it means I'm safer standing next to the rough stuff) and Build Up (which is superb when things in a big team hit the fan and you need that one big boost to your Healing Aura to right the ship again.)

I then took Hasten. a) because I like to have SS as a secondary travel power. It helps me alot if my team are on a big open map and have become split between two mobs. I can quickly zip from one to the other to heal them.

and b) because I now think that Hasten has now become an almost emergency measure. A healers panic button. If I'm in the middle of a tough fight with a large team and the damage rates are getting on top of me (which is now more of an issue since ED has effectively halved my heal output) I can pop the aforementioned build for that quick boost and then Hasten to help with the power recharge. Often these two powers can help you recover a situation that could have been potentially dangerous.

I put her build to the test last night as we took an 8 man team to Peregrine and did some AV missions (including Black Swan and Chimera and a nasty nasty Malta mission). Previously Gale would have had no problem. Post ED when I tried her she was nerfed badly. Post respec and with my slots re-enhanced with ED in mind she is much more effective. Nowhere near pre ED, but still able to hold together an 8 man team with minimal death.... although the action is frantic!!!

So I still think Hasten is a valuable power, but that's for me as an Empath.

My next task is to respec Rogue, who being a Blaster is a whole new challenge. Currently I can't see a reason not to just bin Hasten, but I'll keep you posted on the results of my tinkering.


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AS an Elec/Elec Blaster under ED i dropped Fitness and Hasten & i have no end problems or recharge ones.

And as a blaster anyway you are a team player, so generally if your in a good team someone can buff your speed regardless.

You won't miss it mate.


 

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I was thinking that Flurry might be useful to my Blaster for damage, after a few enchancements, rather than Hasten, but I'm still with it for the time being, for convienience in small groups where I just pump everything I have into a boss or a large group.


 

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I would never drop hasten or stamina even with ED they are still extremely usefull powers.

My I5 build still works wonders in I6 and as such I ain't respec'd yet.


 

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Yeah, I tried respeccing for I6 with ED in mind - and well, me don't like being a blaster now. I have 1 respec left and am thinking about going back to my I5-build with just a cpl minor tweaks.