Why do Heroes flee Sirens Call?


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Something people I team with, both on the Hero and Villain sides in Sirens call, have noticed the fact that a lot of heroes only really seem to stick around when they outnumber the villains and are just having a splat fest. For example, on a number of occassions now heroes have been many and unbeatable due to team dynamics and tactics involved, so I send tells to reliable people and send a general Arena broadcast for reinforcements. They turn up we organise and we push the heroes back, then they all leave. This is the part I dont get, instead or pulling back and reorganising a lot of people just leave. I fail to see the fun they were getting from splatting people who are not a threat, surely a nice big even team battle royale is far more enjoyable. Villains conversly seem to be hardier in attitude and stick around despite poor odds.

Now I will say this is not the case with the regular PVP people, who either on the hero or villain side, will stick around for the fun and fighting, it just seems that many Heroes pop in for the easy kills and run the moment things turn against them

Most nights these days we have a lot of fun in Sirens Call and the people are fun, friendly and a pleasure to play with/against, just wish some people would realise that getting beaten is not the end of the fun.


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Most nights these days we have a lot of fun in Sirens Call and the people are fun, friendly and a pleasure to play with/against, just wish some people would realise that getting beaten is not the end of the fun.


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I'm beaten up reguarly, hehe but i try not to run, mind you i cant im normally dead hehe.

Normally come into SC and have a little PvP fun before i toodle off to bed, up untill then i'm been busy playing PvE side of things. As trying to rack up some SG prestige in the expensive world of base building.

And i find PvP at teh moment a good way to get out of the unfun prestige grind, cause thats is all prestige is at the moment a grind, till they make things affordable for us smaller SGs.

But im not one to run i normally faceplant quite happily, even if the villians out number us

And yes i have fun trying to take down what ever foes are in the zone at what ever time i arrive in it


@Snow.
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I'm on Union in Siren's Call most nights and I find a similar thing can be said about the Villains. Sometimes I enter a zone and its full of Villains with Heroes being scarce (only twice I have seen Villains waiting outside the Hero base) other times I find that its full of Heroes with Villains waiting in the Villain base. I've also seen the tide turn and Villains falling back into their base. I don't think anyone likes to lose and some people will leave if they get killed.
Some nights when there is a lack of Heroes, I can get a good team together using tells and take on the Villains. Other nights I just tease the Villains and jump around like a maniac seeing how long i can last (or if i can hit someone and get away). If its not fun why stick around?

I've seen some Stalkers enter the zone and leave because they die once. They give up if they know they can be seen.


 

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I've seen some Stalkers enter the zone and leave because they die once. They give up if they know they can be seen.

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Its a real sweeper of a generalisation to say that, stalkers are repeatedly getting bad press at teh mo a lot of which isnt warrented, their not the only AT in the zone you could flip that to any AT if you chose to but their not all alike.

I'm on defiant so cant comment on Union but its rare that villians outnumber heroes - some as said do leave if there inst an easy kill to be had and thankfully the tide is evening out slightly from the times of 1 villain getting squashed by 10 heroes, i read someone saying that PvP zones are not fair PvP but surely as the balance rises and more ppl play its becomes all teh better? It will take time for it to be totally flexible either way.

But i agree with Obot it seems some wont stick around if the balance is against them. Some from both sides find it hard to accept defeat and strop of outta the zone - thankfully the more regulars there become the less this will happen, well i'm optimistic anyhoo.


 

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I can't see that changing in the near future, human nature
One thing that could help it though would be to implement instanced battlegounds ala WOW.


 

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Stalker paranoia !!


*turn ir gogles on
*eat all the yelows


 

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Its a real sweeper of a generalisation to say that, stalkers are repeatedly getting bad press at teh mo a lot of which isnt warrented, their not the only AT in the zone you could flip that to any AT if you chose to but their not all alike.

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I used the word 'some' not 'all'


 

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Shoe was on the other foot today, there was a load of PVP players mostly Paragon Defenders but not many on the villains side, also team dynamics were not there and precious little Stalkers can do against several Storm controllers, few came via the arena call up and those that were there just gave up, I started missioning myself, suppose I had actually start putting some lvls on this alt.


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I remember when we were down there there was 6 Heroes and 5-7 Villans skulking in the busted Oil Tanker. I was actually quite sad to leave; but I was being a sneaky bastiche


 

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Sneackys good.


 

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Why do Heroes flee Sirens Call?

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you must be on times when i'm not on :P


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I find Sirens Call very annoying :P The heroes that show up are [removed] and the villains are severly outnumbered (not only due to the fact that we don't have any 50's, let alone that many 40's...)

And besides that I'm über squishy! :P MM's perk


 

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I like Sirens call, and I'm a novelty knife scabbard for every stalker within 100yds (think I died 15 times last night).

I know I dont stand a chance but I certianly dont run, sure I guess some people do but then that is their right to retreat/run away.

Last night there seemed to be a good mix of numbers,equal Vs and Hs and little bad feeling.
The only problem I had was when I got dropped by a hoard of Tsoo who were invisible 'till I landed in their midst, but thats most likely just down to my comp.

Other than my getting to know the hospital staff really well, I managed to mock several Vs and cause them no end of dry cleaning problems with my arterial spray


 

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I like Sirens call, and I'm a novelty knife scabbard for every stalker within 100yds (think I died 15 times last night).

I know I dont stand a chance but I certianly dont run, sure I guess some people do but then that is their right to retreat/run away.

Last night there seemed to be a good mix of numbers,equal Vs and Hs and little bad feeling.
The only problem I had was when I got dropped by a hoard of Tsoo who were invisible 'till I landed in their midst, but thats most likely just down to my comp.

Other than my getting to know the hospital staff really well, I managed to mock several Vs and cause them no end of dry cleaning problems with my arterial spray

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when you said "I have a feeling of impending doom" when I was halfway through my AS animation made me laugh Best bet is for blasters to stay and fight anyway running away with 5% health is just a target for my impale while fighting means you have defiance on your side and incredibly powerful attacks.


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I love winding people up its all in good fun and I dont mind getting beaten. But I perfer to win and even if I lose I will continue trash talking.


 

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I love a little PvP in Sirens but lately when I've been on with my defender I find myself alone or with heroes doing their own thing and a lone kinetic defender against several lurking stalkers running about is a fatality waiting to happen lol....as you would know Stalk-obot

So for now I'm playing my CoV toon, hoping that eventually more people will join the PvP fun


 

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I love a little PvP in Sirens but lately when I've been on with my defender I find myself alone or with heroes doing their own thing and a lone kinetic defender against several lurking stalkers running about is a fatality waiting to happen lol....as you would know Stalk-obot

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Aww bless, be more pushy for teams would be the only thing if that would help. Has he been following you? Just bribe him with beer or chocolate (or return teh favour when he's on as a COH toon )
I would have guessed teams would want defenders still, particulalry Kinetics ones, are a lot of heroes solo or summit?

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hoping that eventually more people will join the PvP fun

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Woohoo a positive statement regards PvP, good on ya Gandrel may many more take up that sentiment


 

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im in union and almost everyday i go to Sirens to pvp a bit . helps to stress out .

i ve seen imbalence by both sides . its not much fun to fight 4\1 but nothing one can do about it .

not much fun either the targets i kill in 2 hits . i kill them once and thats it , unless they happen to turn bounty .

even if i see a 1\1 fight , usually i just stay there enjoying see the 2 guys fight . if a hero adds to that 1\1 i usually try fight that new hero to even the oods 2\2 .

usually the best fights i have are against scrappers , and Stryker ( he always pulls up some fun fights )

even if im killed ,i always try to return for more fights , unless i get wife aggro and must log asap .

pity nobody fights in warburg , fights would be more fun with more powers to chose from .


 

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pity nobody fights in warburg , fights would be more fun with more powers to chose from .

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Totally agreed - give more villians time tho it might take off soon enough. It is a bummer being SK'd or Ex't though.


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even if im killed ,i always try to return for more fights , unless i get wife aggro and must log asap .


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Good attitude to have to PvP - rofpmsl @ wife aggro, i sympathise though even if i'm female but spare a thought for those who poor chaps need to face us wives in life and in game! PvP takes on a whole new angle then Muah ha ha ha


 

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I don't really like PvP at ALL at the moment. Apart from the number of heroes and villains (much more heroes who can enter and effectively take part in PvP than villains) the whole system is, IMHO, silly.
Take Bloody Bay for example. It's a lvl 25 zone. All's nice, but I'm sure someone who just reached that lvl 25 would actually like to stand a fair chance. ATM every lvl 50 (or lvl 40, in villains case) will more than likely beat him to a pulp. Same thing for Sirenes Call. Conclusion: untill we get our cap raised to lvl 50, and get all the nice shiny enhancements, heroes have an advantage on any zone, and young players don't really have a chance.

Implementing lvl ranges (more instanced PvP zones; BB for lvls 15-25, 26-35, and so on...) could solve the problem, but I guess there are severe tech issues that could be a problem.

Uhm, yeah, I went completely off-topic. Had to get this off my chest. Heroes run? Dunno...


 

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Im only lv 18 at the mo with my stalker and I am having no problems taking down lv 50 heros I have use inps but I dont mind. Yes they have more slots than use and S.O.s but with good tactics no one is ubeatable.


 

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Im only lv 18 at the mo with my stalker and I am having no problems taking down lv 50 heros I have use inps but I dont mind. Yes they have more slots than use and S.O.s but with good tactics no one is ubeatable.

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hit amd run, hit and run! ^_^ ...great tactic for my speedster. although there have been times where i hit and just keep on running. :P


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yes hit and run seems to work

*lays quicksand,lays earthquake,double stacks quicksand,prepares snowstorm,prepares intimidate and aoe hold and fossilize*

i am sure you ll run away *pets tp foe and container box*


 

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yes hit and run seems to work

*lays quicksand,lays earthquake,double stacks quicksand,prepares snowstorm,prepares intimidate and aoe hold and fossilize*

i am sure you ll run away *pets tp foe and container box*

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Dam shame im on union and pick me targets carfully other wise I would come looking for you.


 

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u not wanna find me ask lots of dissatisfied stalkers around defiant