Agreed, I have just started building our SG base, seeing as we have nearly 60 members it's a shame I can't add any of the really useful features like a medical or portal room. It looks like we're going to have to work double hard to be able to make this anything more than a social meeting area. I just transferred all my inf to pres (26 mill) and that just about got my a comfy arm chair, inflation at it's worst!! I only hope we can encourage our SG members to play their inf rich lvl 50's instead of building new chars as this seems the only way it'll ever work.
actaully i think pres isnt linked to lvl like inf is, so say u kill a +1 boss u get 50 prestige weather your lvl 5 or 25, at east that what i was lead to believe from something i've read, probably that faq on the US site.
if that was the case that would also be the reason the exchange rate is so crappy, so u cant earn millions of inf then convert it in to pres, so it's actaully more cost effective to earn the pres directly.
its not that bad really i managed to rack up 8k in about 5 hours of play,
so say a SG has 20 active members each making 8k a day you'd be raking in 160k prestige a day, lets round that down to 100k just cause not everyone is gonna want to be earning prestige alongside and instead of inf all the time. 3 mil a month ish, how much does all that stuff cost anyway?
and we all know that the devs will tweak the numbers over the coming months.
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actaully i think pres isnt linked to lvl like inf is, so say u kill a +1 boss u get 50 prestige weather your lvl 5 or 25, at east that what i was lead to believe from something i've read, probably that faq on the US site.
if that was the case that would also be the reason the exchange rate is so crappy, so u cant earn millions of inf then convert it in to pres, so it's actaully more cost effective to earn the pres directly.
its not that bad really i managed to rack up 8k in about 5 hours of play,
so say a SG has 20 active members each making 8k a day you'd be raking in 160k prestige a day, lets round that down to 100k just cause not everyone is gonna want to be earning prestige alongside and instead of inf all the time. 3 mil a month ish, how much does all that stuff cost anyway?
and we all know that the devs will tweak the numbers over the coming months.
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lol. Are you planning to play every day for 5 (five) hours to gain 3mil in one month (and your 20 m8s, of course)... this means that a normal play (as i was speaking) need *ONE* year...Exactly what are dreaming at ncsoft... 
Some big item costs 15-20 mil....
Well if they tweak....
thats what i was asking, not being in charge of my sg or currently an owner of CoV i have no idea how much this stuff costs.
The cheapest possible room that is just for decoration cost about 150000 If I remember correctly from beta(not counting connecting doorways if they are there)..The size was irrelevant iirc.
Functional rooms go 10x on that I think, and with them size does matter the price. Upgrading plot to actually have something properly functional in the base cost unbelievable amounts. The biggest rooms cost tens of millions.
Personally I'd say that the rate of gaining prestige is off balance by at least magnitude of 10... if not more.
You have to remember the obscene rents as well if you have something functional in the base.. I wonder what is the formula that the devs used for 'suitable' prices..
EDIT: and yes, amount of prestige gained is not linked to players level..
Well apparently they intended SG's to receive 20000 prestige per member up to a maximum of 15 for a total of 300000, it's also bugged. It also happens to still fall short of building a functional base and it still leaves the issue of smaller supergroups with limited membership not being able to build themselves a functional base for quite a long time, hardly very fair considering one of the main reasons to buy CoV for CoH subscribers is to obtain bases, they've set it up in such a manner that some of those subscribers can dream on for quite a long stretch of time.
Basically, I agree with the other posters on this topic that costs need to be addressed rather heavily. Not everyone wants an item of power outfitted, raidable base, some SGs just want the functionality of having their own little place somewhere and the convenience of a hospital and teleport chamber.
Not to mention us RPers!!! A usefull base for us would need the largest size with as many rooms as possible dressed differently to represent different locales... Just to aid us in RP. At current costs, eep!!! Not a hope!! We're not interested in the IoP raids...
I'm going to have a go and see what I can build tomorrow with just a few thousand... Non functional items are meant to be pretty cheap so maybe I can manage a single room... 
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go and rp at arresting baddies matey , you can always play one of you 2000000 binds as u clap on the cuffs and earn some dosh at the same time
and hi btw long time no see
Hi there CK!
I DO arrest bad guys! Lots of them! But at the rate prestige is earned, compared to the cost of items within your base.... EEEP!!!
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Do not go gentle into that good night.
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What irks me the most is that only SG 'leaders' can get a base. Granted I have my own little SG, mainly so 'I' can decide what MY base will look like.
But at the retarded rates you gain prestige. It's going to be student life all over again.
It's just another thing the devs managed to completely and utterly mess up. Unless you're willing to spend time building up an army so you can have a base. You're not getting anything. Or you join an SG, and you don't get any say in what the base will look like.
They should at least allow a private secret lair as well. Paid for with influence. Doesn't have to be anything big. But something I can call my own.
I mean, all the really cool heroes have their own private lair. Next to the base they're affiliated with.
can we av bases on coh if so how do i make them and where do i go to make them plz reply
You need to go speak to the Super Group registration guy at City Hall in Atlas Park.You obviously need to be leader of a SG to have one and sufficient prestige to fund one.
I have to agree the costs for bases are simply ridiculous. It is almost impossible to have a base for small SGs, even though that is a staple in many comics (i.e. Fantastic 4, Batman & Robin).
Without 20+ members in a SG, I don't really see any possibilty to owning a base that is bigger than 1 or 2 rooms. Bases would have been a wonderful tool for RP, but with the current costs and prestige gain that's off limits.
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Not to mention us RPers!!! A usefull base for us would need the largest size with as many rooms as possible dressed differently to represent different locales... Just to aid us in RP. At current costs, eep!!! Not a hope!! We're not interested in the IoP raids...
I'm going to have a go and see what I can build tomorrow with just a few thousand... Non functional items are meant to be pretty cheap so maybe I can manage a single room...
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Yes, u can absolutely manage entrance room as well as other one or maybe two (if u start with 300k). But if u wanna change plot to have a big base... well you'll became crazy reading the costs...
Only decorations are cheap (maybe too cheap)
And yes, i love RP, and my SG is small... 
Well, let's break this down...
If you want an SG base, great - registering for one is free and you can immediately get to your "base" and edit it. It is a single room with the base portal in, if you've played a bit and have a couple of people in your SG (like myself) you'll have a fair amount of prestige to start with, but let's go by the magic number of 300000 you're meant to have for 15 members:
You can style the rooms to your liking, raise and lower the floor all you like and slide the portal about to *some* extent, place it too conservatively and you'll find you get people spawning stuck behind it when they enter. You want furniture? Great! Place some decoration like seating, tables, lighting, you can even adorn those tables with decorative items - don't get too carried away though because you only have one room and limited floor space, not every item is "stackable" so if you thought you were going to place those pretty white floor tiles, THINK AGAIN! That would be an entire quarter of your base's room written off entirely, IF you could fit one in at all with the portal's huge bounding box in the way.
So you have an unlimited number of decorative item placments, you can go crazy and make your own little chique apartment in the single room, but what happens if you (god forbid) want a functional base? Well, firstly you'll need a power supply room, then you'll need a control room. So, smallest power room costs 150000 prestige, there goes half of your budget. Control room, same thing, there goes the other half. Now... we still can't actually build anything functional until we place those power and control generation items so let's check the prices on those, ok... power generator... 220000 (IIRC) prestige. ERROR ERROR DOES NOT COMPUTE!!!!!!! 
Bye bye dreams of a functional SG base, you STUPID STUPID CoH+CoV subscriber you!
Doom doom doom doom doom,
it'll get changed, they'll realise no one can afford anything and up the pres gain or lower the prices.
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Or you join an SG, and you don't get any say in what the base will look like.
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I think you are in the wrong SG if your team mates dont value your contirbution and input with the design and furnishing of the base - Its a team effort earning that much prestige it ought to be a team effort spending it.
If your not happy find a better SG
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That still leaves people with their own small SGs without any options to get a decent, functional base.
There are actually people who enjoy playing with a couple friends in their own SG or RPers who enjoy playing a hero / sidekick relationship in their own 2 people SG.
Any SG large enough to operate a large functional base. Will require corporate style management. Or will have it.
I've seen guilds in other games with the same mentality. You become a footsoldier there to follow orders. Granted, CoH/V doesn't have this. Since the devs didn't make a lot of raid content. One thing I'm very greatfull for, nothing more annoying than trying to coordinate 40 people.
But yeah, it's corporate hierarchy that I'm trying to avoid when I'm out enjoying a game I'm paying for.
LOL well put... on the advert it said build your own base... no time constraints etc - well the lawyers said they didn't lie - they maybe mislead and only in a moral sense - but of course morals died out a long time ago 
i guess its time to face it that with the current system [censored] leaders will invite everyone they can find to hoard prestige upto the 75 peeps limit - kik you at the drop of a hat etc etc
so yeah corporate heirarchy - full of fat cats (pompous idiots) and those with 'brown noses' that will only be too happy to bend over for something to be inserted as long as they get the bonus from those items of power...
i thought games were meant to be fun for all? or all those that group together should that be?
I do know that to make a good, fully functioning, average sized, Secure type base (Capable of placing two power generators compared to Hidden type's single), with a fair splatter of defences and decoration costed us about 25 million prestige. That included decorations, several vault rooms, two small securitcy checkpoints (a choke point and security corridor), two small work areas, medical facilities, raid teleporter, control room etc. Which is a heck of a lot of prestiege.
I don't know how things will scale out in the long run, I don't know how long it will take untill Gangs can start setting up bases of similar size, we'll see later down the line when people start building up levels.
They can't actually kick you or they lose the prestige, only way around that would be to spend it on base items so it can't be repossessed.
to be honest its catch 22, - the amount of (COH INF) you need to get prestige is really poor. - a few of us last night trasnferd our lvl 50 inf for prestige, and we spent about 120mil and got a total of 300k prestige!, we now have 600k to play with for base building and is simply not enough.
And as for earning prestige for a SG. HA!.. well sure, anyone can do it...but at the sake of loosing there inf for there later on SO's that they so need..(and its hard enough to afford those at the start for lower levels.. So ok, that takes out the lower levels from the SG Prestige.. now that leaves lvl 40+ really..most lvl 50's that we have and im sure maot of you have totaly run out of missions.. so again thats no good!.. so its just 40 to say 49 - so all 75 members need to be in this lvl range to earn enough Prestige in a year to afford a good functional base..
Oh the joy!..and to think.. if they dont change it, then a year down the line.. people will be saying "woot we have a fully functional base with defence 'n everything"...but there is no-one else to raid, or be raided.. Its a sad day in Paragon city!.
If they added a extra 0 to the prestige earned then it would be fair at least..but then NC want to keep us as paying customers for another year I guess..
They want people to have something to aim for.. fair enough, it'll keep some people hanging on. But most are gonna get fed up with the current insane amount that things cost. So its goin to have an adverse effect.
The whole point of bases is for Raiding.. how many large active groups that have over 70% active members do you know?.. 10?. That leaves very few choices for groups that could afford a base as it is, nevermind those of which that actually want to partake in the PvP with IoPs anyway, and not just use bases for RP/conveniance.
its very stupid. I'm sure they will notice it in time tho
Well, seems that the amount of prestige we gain from foes is really ridicolous compared to the cost of rooms in the base....
Developers think that me and my members will play *one* year to build one room???
LMAO