Ill/Rad is probably the best AV soloer in the game hero side.
There are a number of controller combinations that can solo AVs. My Fire/Kin was capable of beating AVs with just SOs. Ill/Rad is probably the top of the heap, but many others are capable.
Any/Storm with high levels of ranged defense (and, optimally, an immobilize except in the case of ill/storm).
Yep, controllers can definitely do it. Ill/rad is a beast at soloing stuff, and can even take down GMs. If she wants to go for a defender, rad/sonic is awesome at it too. Just pick up hover, and build for ranged defense.
Cold Domination is also capable of soloing AV's. At least I'd suspect so, what with all the nasty debuffs and whatnot.
1. Ill/Cold
2. Ill/Rad
3. Fire/Cold
4. Fire/Rad
5. Ill/Storm
6. Fire/Storm
For AV soloing, thats the best for controllers, Ill/Cold will definatly be #1 when it comes out.
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1. Ill/Cold
2. Ill/Rad
3. Fire/Cold
4. Fire/Rad
5. Ill/Storm
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For AV soloing, thats the best for controllers, Ill/Cold will definatly be #1 when it comes out.
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Most /kins can solo AVs as well, though it's a bit more dangerous. Kin debuffs (-regen, -dmg, -rech) are very underrated. Plus you have unlimited endurance, can self buff (+rech, +dmg, +spd) and can pseudo-tank via a fast charging transfusion. Throw in a pet to absorb some damage (and provide some) and epic blasts and it becomes easy.
I haven't tried soloing an AV with my fire/kin since back in the day before inventions, but even then, she was able solo the easier AVs (Bobcat, Battlemaiden, Siege, Nightstar) without much difficulty. With IOs, it would probably be far easier.
I just finished up my Ill/Rad a few days ago, and solo'd several AVs very quickly - including Lord Recluse, although I died a few times. Ill/Rad just feels like cheating against AVs once PA is up all the time.
Fire/Rad is hands down the best build for taking down GMs and even multiple AVs at the same time
Are you talking solo, or in a team? A Fire/Rad superteam is pretty much hands down the best at anything. Solo, I'd say Fire can't hold a candle to Illusion when we're talking single target.
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Fire/Rad is hands down the best build for taking down GMs and even multiple AVs at the same time
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......With soft capped ranged defense.
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Are you talking solo, or in a team? A Fire/Rad superteam is pretty much hands down the best at anything. Solo, I'd say Fire can't hold a candle to Illusion when we're talking single target.
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Other way around, fire is vastly superior to illusion.
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Are you talking solo, or in a team? A Fire/Rad superteam is pretty much hands down the best at anything. Solo, I'd say Fire can't hold a candle to Illusion when we're talking single target.
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Other way around, fire is vastly superior to illusion.
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.......In terms of damage.
Damage is the last stand, the hardest hurdle to overcome that makes some AVs/GMs simply not killable. As always I like to be proven wrong, show me an ill/rad who has killed Diabolique or a DE Monster with no temps/insps (just to mention a couple)
Are we talking no insps, no temps? If you allow for either or both, soloing AVs is ridiculously easy (seriously, just fill you tray w/16 medium purples). If not...
Ill/Rad is the safest and needs the least amount of defense, though high recharge is preferred. Ill/Kin & Storm can prolly do very well too.
Fire/* is the fastest, but needs quite a bit of IO'ing to get your def high enough. I still haven't seen the data to show which secondary is best. The fastest pylon times I've seen have been on a Fire/Rad, tho I'd still like to see Fire/Kin & Fire/Storm times to see if they can beat it (around 4:10).
*/Storm does have a problem in that it doesn't have a self-heal, and even w/capped def, you still get hit. You might be able to get around this w/an Ill/Storm, but not Fire, or most other primaries. If you take Aid Self, that'll seriously lower your DPS. If you use insps... well, see my first paragraph.
If you just want a "good enough" solo'er, pretty much any Fire/*, Ill/*, and especially paired up w/Rad or Kin (and Cold coming soon) will get the job done.
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*sigh* Just thinking about the AV soloing capabilities of a /Cold Troller makes me very excited.
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Are we talking no insps, no temps?
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In the end everyone is free to do it their own way, but the less external resources you use the more impressive it is. My own personal rules are no temps, no insps (with a few exceptions against certain problematic AVs, like bringing blues to counter Recluse's endurance shutdown blasts, for example)
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Damage is the last stand, the hardest hurdle to overcome that makes some AVs/GMs simply not killable. As always I like to be proven wrong, show me an ill/rad who has killed Diabolique or a DE Monster with no temps/insps (just to mention a couple)
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I can't say that I have done it, but there have been many, many claims on these boards by players who have had their Ill/Rads solo every AV and Monster in the game (other than Hamidon). I recall a long thread by a guy who had video of when he beat Lusca solo, and I believe he had beaten every AV.
Ill/Rad has long been the build that is viewed as the "AV Killer." Fire/Rad is awesome, but doesn't have the same protection of three invulnerable tanks. I'm not doubting that you can do it, but it may be that you are just that good. When lots of folks can do it, that suggests that it is the build that is the cause.
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Damage is the last stand, the hardest hurdle to overcome that makes some AVs/GMs simply not killable. As always I like to be proven wrong, show me an ill/rad who has killed Diabolique or a DE Monster with no temps/insps (just to mention a couple)
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Does Jurassik count as a DE Monster?
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Damage is the last stand, the hardest hurdle to overcome that makes some AVs/GMs simply not killable. As always I like to be proven wrong, show me an ill/rad who has killed Diabolique or a DE Monster with no temps/insps (just to mention a couple)
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I've killed both Diabolique and a number of DE monsters, no temps or insps.
In case of monsters, it took for bloody ever. But it is very doable, as long as you don't mind spending 30 minutes to an hour staring at the same thing ad nauseum.
I also soloed Babbage, Kraken, Jurassik, Eochai, and Jack in Irons. I put a decent dent into Lusca before I realized that my mouse will die sooner than that thing, and gave up.
An "average" AV takes me all of 5-10 minutes at most. My latest kill was Requiem.
Why is /Cold regarded as such an awesome secondary?
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Ill/Rad has long been the build that is viewed as the "AV Killer." Fire/Rad is awesome, but doesn't have the same protection of three invulnerable tanks. I'm not doubting that you can do it, but it may be that you are just that good. When lots of folks can do it, that suggests that it is the build that is the cause.
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ill/rad is only percieved as "better" by the general public, but I've come to the conclusion that it's mostly an Urban Legend of CoH.
When fighting these targets, survivability only matters to a certain extent. Once you're at a point where you can survive, having more survivability is irrelevant, at this point it is the offense that makes the difference between the good and the best. Fire/Rad is superior to ill/rad in this aspect.
I'll make sure to post screenies to back my claims soon enough 
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Damage is the last stand, the hardest hurdle to overcome that makes some AVs/GMs simply not killable. As always I like to be proven wrong, show me an ill/rad who has killed Diabolique or a DE Monster with no temps/insps (just to mention a couple)
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I've killed both Diabolique and a number of DE monsters, no temps or insps.
In case of monsters, it took for bloody ever. But it is very doable, as long as you don't mind spending 30 minutes to an hour staring at the same thing ad nauseum.
I also soloed Babbage, Kraken, Jurassik, Eochai, and Jack in Irons. I put a decent dent into Lusca before I realized that my mouse will die sooner than that thing, and gave up.
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Screenies? videos? any sort of proof? I'm not gonna doubt you in saying you've done many AVs and GMs, but in the case of certain targets such as Diabolique, Kronos Titan GM and DE Monsters, I'm gonna have to be skeptical until I see proof.
Nope, don't have any. If I'm not too immersed in warshadery next weekend, maybe I'll kill a DE monster and take a picture.
What about Plant? I hear it is comparable to Fire in terms of damage because of Roots.
See topic. Girlfriend knows all about the badass Blasters and Scrappers that can solo AVs with their dong while doing the macarena to Rick Astley in the background, but her favorite classes are the Controller and Defender.
So, she'd like to know--is it possible to solo AVs, not scaled-down EBs, as a Controller? If so, what would be good powersets to do it with?