XP Debt at 50?


Aett_Thorn

 

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Simple question, just can't find a clear answer anywhere.

I'm an OCD badge hunter, so I want to get the Exalted badge. Do I need to rack up a ton of debt now, or will I be able to gain/pay off debt at level 50?

For the record, I am 44 and got Undying the other day. If I need to do this before 50, now would be the time to do so.


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You can pay off debt at level 50.


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You still take and can pay off debt at level 50.
So no need to start dying a lot now.


 

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You can get debt at 50. Happy badging!


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If you want a quick way to build up debt, go to Monster Island in PI and let one of the DE monsters take you out repeatedly. You earn more debt by dieing outside than in a mission. Also if you do it before you hit 50, patrol xp will wipe out the debt while counting toward the badge.


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Patrol XP works at 50 too.


 

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If you want a quick way to build up debt, go to Monster Island in PI and let one of the DE monsters take you out repeatedly. You earn more debt by dieing outside than in a mission. Also if you do it before you hit 50, patrol xp will wipe out the debt while counting toward the badge.

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There's no more Patrol at 50, then? Hmm...I might try going on periodic suicide runs at 49. Of course, I intend to make the final push to 50 on the upcoming 2XP weekend, so I may just do it the hard way.

In fact, I think I will do it the hard way. It will give me more to do in the endgame.

Well, thanks for clearing that up folks.


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The mysterious Djinn...Emerald Dervish (50+1 DB/DA Magic Stalker)
The psychotic inventor...Dollmaster (50 Bot/FF Tech Mastermind)

Virtue Forever.

 

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I just get myself killed after I finish a mission, port to hospital, run outside and die to max debt cap, go to next mission to work it off. Repeat.


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If you want a quick way to build up debt, go to Monster Island in PI and let one of the DE monsters take you out repeatedly. You earn more debt by dieing outside than in a mission. Also if you do it before you hit 50, patrol xp will wipe out the debt while counting toward the badge.

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There's no more Patrol at 50, then? Hmm...I might try going on periodic suicide runs at 49. Of course, I intend to make the final push to 50 on the upcoming 2XP weekend, so I may just do it the hard way.

In fact, I think I will do it the hard way. It will give me more to do in the endgame.

Well, thanks for clearing that up folks.

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Just to reiterate, there IS patrol XP at 50. There is also a debt cap so there is only a certain amount of times you can die before you stop accruing debt.


 

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If you want a quick way to build up debt, go to Monster Island in PI and let one of the DE monsters take you out repeatedly. You earn more debt by dieing outside than in a mission. Also if you do it before you hit 50, patrol xp will wipe out the debt while counting toward the badge.

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There's no more Patrol at 50, then? Hmm...I might try going on periodic suicide runs at 49. Of course, I intend to make the final push to 50 on the upcoming 2XP weekend, so I may just do it the hard way.

In fact, I think I will do it the hard way. It will give me more to do in the endgame.

Well, thanks for clearing that up folks.

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Just to reiterate, there IS patrol XP at 50. There is also a debt cap so there is only a certain amount of times you can die before you stop accruing debt.

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What do you mean there is patrol XP at 50?

Do you mean leftover from before 50? Yes but once used up to payoff debt it is gone.

Earned new when you logout? I haven't seen any on my 50s.


total kick to the gut

This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.

 

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If you want a quick way to build up debt, go to Monster Island in PI and let one of the DE monsters take you out repeatedly. You earn more debt by dieing outside than in a mission. Also if you do it before you hit 50, patrol xp will wipe out the debt while counting toward the badge.

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There's no more Patrol at 50, then? Hmm...I might try going on periodic suicide runs at 49. Of course, I intend to make the final push to 50 on the upcoming 2XP weekend, so I may just do it the hard way.

In fact, I think I will do it the hard way. It will give me more to do in the endgame.

Well, thanks for clearing that up folks.

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Just to reiterate, there IS patrol XP at 50. There is also a debt cap so there is only a certain amount of times you can die before you stop accruing debt.

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What do you mean there is patrol XP at 50?

Do you mean leftover from before 50? Yes but once used up to payoff debt it is gone.

Earned new when you logout? I haven't seen any on my 50s.

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Yes, there is patrol XP on 50, how else could a level 50 get the badge.


 

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If you want a quick way to build up debt, go to Monster Island in PI and let one of the DE monsters take you out repeatedly. You earn more debt by dieing outside than in a mission. Also if you do it before you hit 50, patrol xp will wipe out the debt while counting toward the badge.

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There's no more Patrol at 50, then? Hmm...I might try going on periodic suicide runs at 49. Of course, I intend to make the final push to 50 on the upcoming 2XP weekend, so I may just do it the hard way.

In fact, I think I will do it the hard way. It will give me more to do in the endgame.

Well, thanks for clearing that up folks.

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Just to reiterate, there IS patrol XP at 50. There is also a debt cap so there is only a certain amount of times you can die before you stop accruing debt.

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What do you mean there is patrol XP at 50?

Do you mean leftover from before 50? Yes but once used up to payoff debt it is gone.

Earned new when you logout? I haven't seen any on my 50s.

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Yes, there is patrol XP on 50, how else could a level 50 get the badge.

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Which badge? The one that specifically states how a 50 earns it differently? Patroller

If so, I suggest you have your facts straight before stating things as facts. In game the badge's progress bar itself states the level 50 exception as listed on Paragonwiki.


total kick to the gut

This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.

 

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If you want a quick way to build up debt, go to Monster Island in PI and let one of the DE monsters take you out repeatedly. You earn more debt by dieing outside than in a mission. Also if you do it before you hit 50, patrol xp will wipe out the debt while counting toward the badge.

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There's no more Patrol at 50, then? Hmm...I might try going on periodic suicide runs at 49. Of course, I intend to make the final push to 50 on the upcoming 2XP weekend, so I may just do it the hard way.

In fact, I think I will do it the hard way. It will give me more to do in the endgame.

Well, thanks for clearing that up folks.

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Just to reiterate, there IS patrol XP at 50. There is also a debt cap so there is only a certain amount of times you can die before you stop accruing debt.

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What do you mean there is patrol XP at 50?

Do you mean leftover from before 50? Yes but once used up to payoff debt it is gone.

Earned new when you logout? I haven't seen any on my 50s.

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Yes, there is patrol XP on 50, how else could a level 50 get the badge.

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Which badge? The one that specifically states how a 50 earns it differently? Patroller

If so, I suggest you have your facts straight before stating things as facts. In game the badge's progress bar itself states the level 50 exception as listed on Paragonwiki.

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Hmm. My 50s must be bugged then, because they have Patroller XP on them right now, and I know I've played (and died) them plenty to get rid of it.


 

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If you want a quick way to build up debt, go to Monster Island in PI and let one of the DE monsters take you out repeatedly. You earn more debt by dieing outside than in a mission. Also if you do it before you hit 50, patrol xp will wipe out the debt while counting toward the badge.

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There's no more Patrol at 50, then? Hmm...I might try going on periodic suicide runs at 49. Of course, I intend to make the final push to 50 on the upcoming 2XP weekend, so I may just do it the hard way.

In fact, I think I will do it the hard way. It will give me more to do in the endgame.

Well, thanks for clearing that up folks.

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Just to reiterate, there IS patrol XP at 50. There is also a debt cap so there is only a certain amount of times you can die before you stop accruing debt.

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What do you mean there is patrol XP at 50?

Do you mean leftover from before 50? Yes but once used up to payoff debt it is gone.

Earned new when you logout? I haven't seen any on my 50s.

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Yes, there is patrol XP on 50, how else could a level 50 get the badge.

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Which badge? The one that specifically states how a 50 earns it differently? Patroller

If so, I suggest you have your facts straight before stating things as facts. In game the badge's progress bar itself states the level 50 exception as listed on Paragonwiki.

[/ QUOTE ] I agree that most of my 50s don't have any Patrol XP when they log in, however, there have been exceptions:

A few days ago, my lvl 50 Corruptor logged in and immediately received a debt badge, and the xp bar showed some remaining Patrol XP. This character has been lvl 50 since before Patrol XP even existed, and I use it often, so it's not left over from anything either.

It doesn't seem indended to me, and I can't seem to purposely reproduce it.


 

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If you want a quick way to build up debt, go to Monster Island in PI and let one of the DE monsters take you out repeatedly. You earn more debt by dieing outside than in a mission. Also if you do it before you hit 50, patrol xp will wipe out the debt while counting toward the badge.

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There's no more Patrol at 50, then? Hmm...I might try going on periodic suicide runs at 49. Of course, I intend to make the final push to 50 on the upcoming 2XP weekend, so I may just do it the hard way.

In fact, I think I will do it the hard way. It will give me more to do in the endgame.

Well, thanks for clearing that up folks.

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Just to reiterate, there IS patrol XP at 50. There is also a debt cap so there is only a certain amount of times you can die before you stop accruing debt.

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What do you mean there is patrol XP at 50?

Do you mean leftover from before 50? Yes but once used up to payoff debt it is gone.

Earned new when you logout? I haven't seen any on my 50s.

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Yes, there is patrol XP on 50, how else could a level 50 get the badge.

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Which badge? The one that specifically states how a 50 earns it differently? Patroller

If so, I suggest you have your facts straight before stating things as facts. In game the badge's progress bar itself states the level 50 exception as listed on Paragonwiki.

[/ QUOTE ] I agree that most of my 50s don't have any Patrol XP when they log in, however, there have been exceptions:

A few days ago, my lvl 50 Corruptor logged in and immediately received a debt badge, and the xp bar showed some remaining Patrol XP. This character has been lvl 50 since before Patrol XP even existed, and I use it often, so it's not left over from anything either.

It doesn't seem indended to me, and I can't seem to purposely reproduce it.

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It could be something like that. I only have 3 50s so it's not like this happened on tons of characters. Not like it's hurting anything


 

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Patrol XP is awarded at any level, even at 50. When you're 50, you log in, your patrol XP is given to you, pays off any debt you have, then the remainder disappears.

This is how I've been working on my debt badges, and I can confirm that it does work.


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Patrol XP is awarded at any level, even at 50. When you're 50, you log in, your patrol XP is given to you, pays off any debt you have, then the remainder disappears.

This is how I've been working on my debt badges, and I can confirm that it does work.

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That makes sense. Since I don't logout with debt (heck I rarely have any) I would never see that.

Well now, hello debt badges for my 50s. I'll just get the debt cap before logging them out from now on.


total kick to the gut

This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.

 

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My trick for quick debt accumulation is to go to a couple of spawn points that are directly in front of the hospital in PI, just behind the parking deck. There's usually a bunch of lvl 50 Malta, Rikti or Carny that can take anyone down pretty quickly if you turn all your defenses off.

Vills takes a little longer. I head to the Fab where there's lots of lvl 49-50 bosses. This isn't very close to the hosp though so it's not as fast to get to debt cap.

I haven't tried it, but a friend suggested the wall in cim. It's probably quicker to get from the hosp to the wall in cim than from the hosp to the Fab in G-ville.


 

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Don't bother using the hospital... just buy some awakens before you go find something that can kill you. Much faster that way.


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Patrol XP is awarded at any level, even at 50. When you're 50, you log in, your patrol XP is given to you, pays off any debt you have, then the remainder disappears.

This is how I've been working on my debt badges, and I can confirm that it does work.

[/ QUOTE ] In the situation I described above, the remaining Patrol XP did not disappear after paying off my debt. We both agree it's not intended, but I wanted to point out there is some kind of bug or glitch that can still cause it to happen.

The problem is, I have yet to figure out the exact circumstances that caused it to happen. lol


 

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Is this a recent toon to hit lvl 50? I remember my last toon had full patrol xp when it was lvl 49 as I let it sit before finally doing the push to 50. When I dinged 50, there was still some patrol xp bars left that didn't disappear.


 

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Is this a recent toon to hit lvl 50? I remember my last toon had full patrol xp when it was lvl 49 as I let it sit before finally doing the push to 50. When I dinged 50, there was still some patrol xp bars left that didn't disappear.

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This character has been lvl 50 since before Patrol XP even existed, and I use it often, so it's not left over from anything either.

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Don't bother using the hospital... just buy some awakens before you go find something that can kill you. Much faster that way.

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Don't wakies have a brief "no debt" period?


 

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Don't bother using the hospital... just buy some awakens before you go find something that can kill you. Much faster that way.

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Don't wakies have a brief "no debt" period?

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They do



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There is also a debt cap so there is only a certain amount of times you can die before you stop accruing debt.

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