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Plus in Mid's, even with the DoT, T-Strike shows more damage than FSC (I compared Brutes since they're the only ones with the sets).
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I'm not sure if Mid's shows it, but only your targeted opponent receives the full damage from Thunderstrike. The AoE, which hits other enemies near your target, only does a portion of the damage.
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No, it does full damage to all targets. You're confusing it with Blaster and Dominator T-Strike. Brute and Stalker T-Strike is a 'true' AoE, and is weaker at ST damage than the Blaster version.
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Are you sure about that? I thought other enemies only took the smashing damage while the one being targeted took all of it.
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No, it does full damage to all targets. You're confusing it with Blaster and Dominator T-Strike. Brute and Stalker T-Strike is a 'true' AoE, and is weaker at ST damage than the Blaster version.
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Are you sure about that? I thought other enemies only took the smashing damage while the one being targeted took all of it.
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Not anymore. I was proven wrong in this very thread, apparently the targetted enemy take smash+energy and the others take only energy. Meaning that T-Strike is quite gimp (in Brute numbers, the targetted enemy would take 84 damage and the rest 40ish, less than Lolzing Hands, and with T-Strike it's harder to hit enemies behind you).
And I thought it was my best attack after L-Rod. Oh well, elec melee seems more and more disappointing to me.
Thunderstrike is a Single target attack with a splash of AOE Energy DMG and chance for KD.
The attack is fine.
And I don't see how the attack is harder to hit enemies behind you, as the AOE splash dmg is just that...AOE.
EDIT: Which is why I still think it should allow regular single target melee IO sets, versus the AOE Melee sets. :/
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A strange set indeed. A ST attack that hits multi targets and a pbaoe attack that hits one target and other targets for smaller amount of dmg. Then there is the tier 9 that's teleport attack. The lower dmg seems to be made up for the pure wth reaction it supplies. And what is a scrapper going to but with a non dmg stun attack other then proc it out or *coughs* set mule it?
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I bet they're going to replace Jacob's Latter with something else. I hope
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Thunderstrike is a Single target attack with a splash of AOE Energy DMG and chance for KD.
The attack is fine.
And I don't see how the attack is harder to hit enemies behind you, as the AOE splash dmg is just that...AOE.
EDIT: Which is why I still think it should allow regular single target melee IO sets, versus the AOE Melee sets. :/
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It's a bit harder to hit enemies around you because the AoE is centered on your target unlike say Whirling Hands where it's targetted at you. A friend of mine even thought it was a cone because of that. Not that you can't hit enemies behind you, it's just that you'll probably get more targets with a PbAoE like W. Hands or Spin if you're in the middle of a lot of mobs.
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Thunderstrike is a Single target attack with a splash of AOE Energy DMG and chance for KD.
The attack is fine.
And I don't see how the attack is harder to hit enemies behind you, as the AOE splash dmg is just that...AOE.
EDIT: Which is why I still think it should allow regular single target melee IO sets, versus the AOE Melee sets. :/
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It's a bit harder to hit enemies around you because the AoE is centered on your target unlike say Whirling Hands where it's targetted at you. A friend of mine even thought it was a cone because of that. Not that you can't hit enemies behind you, it's just that you'll probably get more targets with a PbAoE like W. Hands or Spin if you're in the middle of a lot of mobs.
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Oh...that's how you meant it. Okay. 
Yeah...I usually just target the guy in the middle for it.
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I bet they're going to replace Jacob's Latter with something else. I hope
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If the hold true to what they did with fire melee power proliferation they will be giving it a single target attack ala creamate in place of the one of the AOE's, most likely Jacobs Ladder(Hopefullly) or Thunderstrike. Even Spines gets enough single target attacks to form a attack string.
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I bet they're going to replace Jacob's Latter with something else. I hope
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If the hold true to what they did with fire melee power proliferation they will be giving it a single target attack ala creamate in place of the one of the AOE's, most likely Jacobs Ladder(Hopefullly) or Thunderstrike. Even Spines gets enough single target attacks to form a attack string.
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What they did with fire was port the brute set over and switched the levels scrappers got certain powers and switched taunt powers. I'm expecting the same thing to be done with elec. Jacobs ladder isn't that bad of a power. I would rather thunder clap be replaced with something. How about short circut?
Edit: on second thought, I want this . http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RJSC86K...l=US&hl=en
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Ghmmm I wanted different EM/ =x
I am hopping they look at the set and tweak it for brutes even we will see when beta comes around
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Byzantine Warrior-DB/ELA 50;Blade Tempo-50 DB/EA
I was actully hoping for Electric Melee. I've already begun purchasing the IOs for my new Elec/DA scrapper
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I was actully hoping for Electric Melee. I've already begun purchasing the IOs for my new Elec/DA scrapper
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Surprise surprise you going elec melee/da
I am making a elec/shield period lighting rod + shield charge just for fun and re did my fire/sd to start farming more
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Byzantine Warrior-DB/ELA 50;Blade Tempo-50 DB/EA
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Surprise surprise you going elec melee/da
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Well I gotta complete the set
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And what is a scrapper going to but with a non dmg stun attack other then proc it out or *coughs* set mule it?
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Stack it with Oppressive Gloom to stun everything around him ?
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Has anyone figured out the best DPS (single target) attack string for an Elec Melee scrapper?
Assuming it ports over the same as it is for Brutes, of course.
What would be the best chain and what's the DPS look like?
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Well I've look at it some and the best DPS attacks for it are Jacob's Ladder, Chain Induction, Charge Brawl. Havoc Punch is the worst DPS of the 4 attacks.
So it looks like the best attack chain would be
Chain Induction/Charge Brawl/Jacob's Ladder/Charge Brawl
CI would need to rechrage in 3.96 which would be 250%
CB would need to rechrage in 1.056 which would be 184%
JL would need to rechrage in 3.3 which would be 143%.
The DPS for that chian will be around 130ish DPS.
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Well I've look at it some and the best DPS attacks for it are Jacob's Ladder, Chain Induction, Charge Brawl. Havoc Punch is the worst DPS of the 4 attacks.
So it looks like the best attack chain would be
Chain Induction/Charge Brawl/Jacob's Ladder/Charge Brawl
CI would need to rechrage in 3.96 which would be 250%
CB would need to rechrage in 1.056 which would be 184%
JL would need to rechrage in 3.3 which would be 143%.
The DPS for that chian will be around 130ish DPS.
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Not a record breaker. Energy Resistance foes will hurt the DPS, but 130 doesn't sound to bad.
Those who roll Elec/Shield will likely get nice enough DPS to overcome the energy resistance foes.
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Wow is MA that bad at ST dmg to compare it to Elec Melee? I mean, on a Brute, at 70%ish fury, I was draining bosses before I killed them beause it took so long (and I was not electric armor so the drain was exclusively from my punches).
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SK -> CAK -> SK -> CK -> Repeat = Best single target attack chain for Martial Arts...assuming not alot of global +DMG, and no procs...for a single target oriented set, it lacks in DPS compared to alot of the other sets. :/
With a DPS of 155 (no +DMG, Assault, Procs)
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