Am I the only one confused by i16...


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He's been out of the box on his honeymoon.


If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.

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He's been out of the box on his honeymoon.

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Ah, so someone forgot to remove his rose colored glasses when he got back. :P


 

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I fully plan to farm lvl 47 mobs set to 8 player-difficulty for the purples.

I further maintain that this is precisely why the devs are doing this.

Prove me wrong.


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I think they need to be 48's


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I think they need to be 48's

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Anyway, I'm still outraged.


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Exploitive farming... he doesn't like exploitive farming. I look at this move as simply extending an olive branch and in a roundabout way saying, "You can go this far."

If it cuts down on the amount of tells asking for fillers then I'll consider it a success.

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I think this one. Plus, if they're farming and exploiting, now maybe they're doing it alone and won't get anyone else banned for exploiting.


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I think they need to be 48's

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Anyway, I'm still outraged.

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Lvl 47+ drops purples


 

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I fully plan to farm lvl 47 mobs set to 8 player-difficulty for the purples.

I further maintain that this is precisely why the devs are doing this.

Prove me wrong.

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You're wrong!

I know because I read it on the Internet.


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Heh. I expect this will make it easier for them to identify the dedicated exploiters, the ones who SHOULD be banned.


 

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Positron doesn't like farming, but we're now getting the ability to appear as an 8-person team while solo?!? Color me (with customization) confuzzled.

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I think the main opposition to farming was that it can be infectious and change the nature of the game for many of the players, including those who aren't doing it. I've seen this happen myself many times in the past, where some method of gaining experience or rewards faster than expected starts leaking out, people stop being secretive and start just broadcasting their plans to exploit, and the game starts shifting towards funneling more and more people into doing this one singular thing rather than all of the other content that exists in the game. Portal farms, Dreck farms, Chimera farms, Meow farms, Hami farms, etc etc. It's happened time and time again and will continue to happen until players stop playing.

Some people can handle that type of game play just fine. Some people have been here for 5+ years and have played all of the other content multiple times and are now only interested in grinding up a specific powerset as quickly as possible for one reason or another. But many people can't handle this, and that's bad for the game as a whole. If someone new is introduced to the game and quickly roped into farming a single mission over and over, they're going to get a very narrow and shallow view of what the game is. And that view is going to establish certain benchmarks that are probably not realistic.

If someone's first experience to the game is getting a character from level 1 to 30 in 2 hours, simply because they happened to have stumbled into a farm team that just needed fillers, then it's going to be nigh-impossible for that person to adjust to the game outside of using that exploit. Or worse, once that exploit has been closed, and it now takes 100 hours to reach the same level. Chances are good those players will be soured and won't continue to play. That's bad for everyone, farmers and non-farmers alike. I can't say how often this happens, but I know it does happen.

There's also been a very definite push to keep the mission architect 'pure' and ensure that it's used for players to tell stories and share those stories with other players, not for convenient leveling or gross power-leveling. Clearly, theyre not there yet, but any change to the MA to curb 'farming' (gaining experience or other rewards faster than other areas of the game) is absolutely consistent with their stated design goals for that one specific area of the game. I wouldn't expect to see them stop any time soon. However, I do feel they're much less likely to make radical changes or delete characters that have been power leveled anywhere outside of the mission architect.

So while this does provide a very handy tool for individuals or small groups to power level, it also provides much less incentive for people to draw other unwitting players into these power leveling schemes. Not everyone can crank up the difficulty and solo through 8 person spawns, thus not everyone can use this as a power levling tool. The people who are capable of doing that are most likely the same people who are capable of handling that pace, who are more interested in rapid gains, who don't need a variety of content to keep them interested enough to keep playing.

It's a bit unorthodox, but could end up being a win-win for everyone.


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Well said, Tic.

And fwiw, I agree.


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It's a bit unorthodox, but could end up being a win-win for everyone.

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This. I really think so. Yes, it has potential for problems, but I think it has more potential to be a really good solution.


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What's a Meow Farm?


 

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What's a Meow Farm?

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Meow teams, meow missions...whatever the code word for 'farms' in the MA was.

All I remember as a bunch of people standing around in AE broadcasting "Meow?" "Meow?" "Meow LFM!"


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That's so freaking random.


 

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What's a Meow Farm?

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You haven't heard about the mission where Kat kills you over and over to level one of her alts?


 

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What's a Meow Farm?

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From what I've read when this question came up in other areas, the Meow Farms were the MA farms using the Level 42 Rikti Communication Officer (some say it was the version from the Sewer Trial) that gave LT XPj on Minion HP. They'd create custom groups with only those critters in the group. Since only one of the critters per spawn would activate a portal, it was a fairly simple high XP gaining group with very little risk if any.

As for why the Meow name? Several variants. The first one to come up with this type of farm was a catgirl, the Comm Officers looked a bit like Cats (huh?), some of these farms were putting the word Meow in the description to make them easy to find.

Whatever the reason, Meow it was.


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What's a Meow Farm?

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A large, open map filled to the brim with pussycats, both the players and their computer-generated opponents. Hence, the amount of meowing and the caterwauling that ensues when they get banninated.


 

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What's a Meow Farm?

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Meow teams, meow missions...whatever the code word for 'farms' in the MA was.

All I remember as a bunch of people standing around in AE broadcasting "Meow?" "Meow?" "Meow LFM!"

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*shudder*

As if role playing catgirls didn't freak me out enough already... seeing that spammed everywhere would have driven me to hide under the desk in a fetal position for a month.


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Meow teams were teams farming MA missions full of Rikti communication officers since they were considered Lieutenants (because they could summon) but they actually had the stats of minions.

With 8 in a spawn only 1 or 2 would actually summon a portal.

back to the OP ... I actually think that if the farmers can now actually go farm on their own in their little mission without asking for anchors, padders, bridgers and so on ... in broadcast, then the average player doesn't get pulled into the farming world as easily and therefore the game doesn't all shift to the sways of the farmers. Therefore I don't see them ... they play their game without bothering mine ... and I am happier.


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What's a Meow Farm?

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You haven't heard about the mission where Kat kills you over and over to level one of her alts?

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That usually happened when we teamed. She's be the only one left standing after an EB battle! Then, she'd call us nubs.


 

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they will still need bridges, just saying


 

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What's a Meow Farm?

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Meow teams, meow missions...whatever the code word for 'farms' in the MA was.

All I remember as a bunch of people standing around in AE broadcasting "Meow?" "Meow?" "Meow LFM!"

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*shudder*

As if role playing catgirls didn't freak me out enough already... seeing that spammed everywhere would have driven me to hide under the desk in a fetal position for a month.

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Would have? I thought THAT was why you were out of game for a while!


 

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What's a Meow Farm?

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Meow teams, meow missions...whatever the code word for 'farms' in the MA was.

All I remember as a bunch of people standing around in AE broadcasting "Meow?" "Meow?" "Meow LFM!"

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*shudder*

As if role playing catgirls didn't freak me out enough already... seeing that spammed everywhere would have driven me to hide under the desk in a fetal position for a month.

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Would have? I thought THAT was why you were out of game for a while!

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Hahahahaha!


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*shudder*

As if role playing catgirls didn't freak me out enough already... seeing that spammed everywhere would have driven me to hide under the desk in a fetal position for a month.

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