Everybody is playing scrappers.
By
Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2009-07-14 11:02 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
I have seen a lot of scrappers myself. One of my recent teams in Hollows was a full team of one DEF, my troller one tank and rest were scrappers. I dont have anything against scrappers, in fact my next toon I been thinking bout creating is going to be a scrapper. I was thinking of Kat/WP. Like Fallen mentioned, I rarely see a DEF.
I had a scrapper ask if there was gonna be anymore damage types in the Synapse i was running.I told him he got the pity spot
Needless to say he dropped and we continued on with our all def/troller team. He didnt even stay on so we could taunt him about how we were done with the first mission without 'damage types' .
Scrappers are such weenies.
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I had a scrapper ask if there was gonna be anymore damage types in the Synapse i was running.I told him he got the pity spot
Needless to say he dropped and we continued on with our all def/troller team. He didnt even stay on so we could taunt him about how we were done with the first mission without 'damage types' .
Scrappers are such weenies.
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That guy is required to turn in his scrapper badage
Bah I be like cool more stuff for me 
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Byzantine Warrior-DB/ELA 50;Blade Tempo-50 DB/EA
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Bah I be like cool more stuff for me
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That is what I was thinking, more stuff for me to kill. Anyways why would I want more teammate if I had enough fillers to start the TF 
"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time"- Chesty Puller US Marine Corps
More scrappers because its the most solo friendly AT generally speaking.
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I had a scrapper ask if there was gonna be anymore damage types in the Synapse i was running.I told him he got the pity spot
Needless to say he dropped and we continued on with our all def/troller team. He didnt even stay on so we could taunt him about how we were done with the first mission without 'damage types' .
Scrappers are such weenies.
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That guy is required to turn in his scrapper badage
Bah I be like cool more stuff for me
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Seconded...
I'd have been looking at it like, "Cool, now I don't have to chase the little buggers all over the map!"
But thats just me...
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HU HA !!!!!
Those cats were fast as lighthing !!!!!
The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.
If numbers are so much more important than a teammate who is fun to play with, forget about the game altogether and go play with a calculator instead. -Claws and Effect-
Have one scrapper at level 50 just so I can say I have played every at to 50.. Find scrappers utterly boring..
The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.
If numbers are so much more important than a teammate who is fun to play with, forget about the game altogether and go play with a calculator instead. -Claws and Effect-
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HU HA !!!!!
Those cats were fast as lighthing !!!!!
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In fact it was a little bit frightening
But they fought with expert timing
And the only scrapper? I would have been all over that.
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I have one Scrapper. They just don't do anything for me.
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Ask not what your Scrapper can do for you. Ask what you can do for your Scrapper.
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Scrappers are not the only AT in this game. People should not think such things. The game also has brutes.
Be well, people of CoH.
Scrappers: They're the AT for people who can't leverage the power of ATs that actually take some level of intelligence to play.
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Scrappers: They're the AT for people who can't leverage the power of ATs that actually take some level of intelligence to play.
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Right. Because it takes more intelligence to design and play an AV soloing Rad/Son than it takes to design and play an AV soloing Fire/Regen.
Having actually played every blueside AT to 50 twice and brought them to virtually every task that the game has, I can honestly say that Defenders and Controllers take no more intelligence to play than Scrappers, Tankers, or Blasters. It simply requires a different kind of intelligence. Defenders and Controllers require a more intimate knowledge of buff/debuff mechanics, though, as is evidenced in this very thread, it's actually rather obvious that most people that play those very characters aren't actually fully proficient in those mechanisms. Scrappers require a much more involved knowledge of attack strings and personal defenses, as well as a greater degree of reactivity because they don't have the substantial buffs and debuffs to fall back on.
The reason that 8 Defenders and Controllers can do more and more efficiently than 8 Scrappers is no decent metric to determine level of intelligence required since, once you get more than 4 Defenders or Controllers on a team, everyone could be dumb as a rock and the team would still be effective because of all of the buffs and debuffs being thrown out.
If you want to actually check to see how intelligent Scrappers are compared to the other ATs, actually check the various forums. You'll probably be surprised. The Scrapper forums are by far the most intelligent. We actually calculate all of the various numbers for our own performance and determine the comparative effectiveness of powers all the time all over the place. We even do it for other ATs that can't get that same level of help from their own forums.
Before you try and state that Scrappers don't take a level of intelligence to play, I strongly suggest you actually check to see the amount of intelligence is actually required to play any other AT in the game, especially considering how easy it is to simply say "turn this on and use this power whenever it recharges" where Defenders and Controllers are concerned.
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Scrappers: They're the AT for people who can't leverage the power of ATs that actually take some level of intelligence to play.
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Right. Because it takes more intelligence to design and play an AV soloing Rad/Son than it takes to design and play an AV soloing Fire/Regen.
Having actually played every blueside AT to 50 twice and brought them to virtually every task that the game has, I can honestly say that Defenders and Controllers take no more intelligence to play than Scrappers, Tankers, or Blasters. It simply requires a different kind of intelligence. Defenders and Controllers require a more intimate knowledge of buff/debuff mechanics, though, as is evidenced in this very thread, it's actually rather obvious that most people that play those very characters aren't actually fully proficient in those mechanisms. Scrappers require a much more involved knowledge of attack strings and personal defenses, as well as a greater degree of reactivity because they don't have the substantial buffs and debuffs to fall back on.
The reason that 8 Defenders and Controllers can do more and more efficiently than 8 Scrappers is no decent metric to determine level of intelligence required since, once you get more than 4 Defenders or Controllers on a team, everyone could be dumb as a rock and the team would still be effective because of all of the buffs and debuffs being thrown out.
If you want to actually check to see how intelligent Scrappers are compared to the other ATs, actually check the various forums. You'll probably be surprised. The Scrapper forums are by far the most intelligent. We actually calculate all of the various numbers for our own performance and determine the comparative effectiveness of powers all the time all over the place. We even do it for other ATs that can't get that same level of help from their own forums.
Before you try and state that Scrappers don't take a level of intelligence to play, I strongly suggest you actually check to see the amount of intelligence is actually required to play any other AT in the game, especially considering how easy it is to simply say "turn this on and use this power whenever it recharges" where Defenders and Controllers are concerned.
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Oh my. Someone got defensive there. 
"Intelligence" might not have been the best word choice for me to use, I saw it coming, but didn't really feel like editting it.
I'm not gonna pick through all the garbage in your post at 3 am though.
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Oh my. Someone got defensive there.
"Intelligence" might not have been the best word choice for me to use, I saw it coming, but didn't really feel like editting it.
I'm not gonna pick through all the garbage in your post at 3 am though.
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Translation.
I said a trollish stupid thing, I knew it was stupid and trollish and now that I've been called on it I'm not really going to defend myself because I was being a stupid troll.
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Oh my. Someone got defensive there.
"Intelligence" might not have been the best word choice for me to use, I saw it coming, but didn't really feel like editting it.
I'm not gonna pick through all the garbage in your post at 3 am though.
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Translation.
I said a trollish stupid thing, I knew it was stupid and trollish and now that I've been called on it I'm not really going to defend myself because I was being a stupid troll.
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No. I mean't what I meant, I could have phrased it better though, like I said. I have always held my same opinion about melee ATs compared to ranged ATs for years, and I've said it many times over.
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Oh my. Someone got defensive there.
"Intelligence" might not have been the best word choice for me to use, I saw it coming, but didn't really feel like editting it.
I'm not gonna pick through all the garbage in your post at 3 am though.
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Translation.
I said a trollish stupid thing, I knew it was stupid and trollish and now that I've been called on it I'm not really going to defend myself because I was being a stupid troll.
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No. I mean't what I meant, I could have phrased it better though, like I said. I have always held my same opinion about melee ATs compared to ranged ATs for years, and I've said it many times over.
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Then please, elucidate us as to the reasons why it requires more intelligence to play a Defender/Controller than a Scrapper.
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Then please, elucidate us as to the reasons why it requires more intelligence to play a Defender/Controller than a Scrapper.
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--First lrn2read, Srsly.
--2nd I will rephrase my statement and say that it is easier to play a scrapper/tanker than it is to play a ranged AT.
--I'd love to chat with you about my opinions on ranged vs melee differences when I'm awake and functional Umbral, PM me ingame sometime.
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Oh my. Someone got defensive there.
"Intelligence" might not have been the best word choice for me to use, I saw it coming, but didn't really feel like editting it.
I'm not gonna pick through all the garbage in your post at 3 am though.
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Translation.
I said a trollish stupid thing, I knew it was stupid and trollish and now that I've been called on it I'm not really going to defend myself because I was being a stupid troll.
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No. I mean't what I meant, I could have phrased it better though, like I said. I have always held my same opinion about melee ATs compared to ranged ATs for years, and I've said it many times over.
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Oh I'm sorry I guess the proper translation was.
I know I was trolling and I know it is a baseless opinion that I can't defend very well but I stand by it and I will continue to feign innocents while I continue to troll.
Sorry for giving you the benefit of the doubt there.
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Oh my. Someone got defensive there.
"Intelligence" might not have been the best word choice for me to use, I saw it coming, but didn't really feel like editting it.
I'm not gonna pick through all the garbage in your post at 3 am though.
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Translation.
I said a trollish stupid thing, I knew it was stupid and trollish and now that I've been called on it I'm not really going to defend myself because I was being a stupid troll.
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No. I mean't what I meant, I could have phrased it better though, like I said. I have always held my same opinion about melee ATs compared to ranged ATs for years, and I've said it many times over.
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Oh I'm sorry I guess the proper translation was.
I know I was trolling and I know it is a baseless opinion that I can't defend very well but I stand by it and I will continue to feign innocents while I continue to troll.
Sorry for giving you the benefit of the doubt there.
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Sniped, look up, you can do the same.
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as well as a greater degree of reactivity because they don't have the substantial buffs and debuffs to fall back on.
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As much as I like Scrappers, I always consider my defenders to require more reactivity because they lack the substantial ruggedness of the melee classes. Even now, soloing a Defender can be tricky, like walking a tightrope, whereas Scrappers do it naturally.
I find myself switching to Scrappers and Tankers when I am tired and don't trust my reaction times.
Your mileage may vary.
Note: I didn't say any AT was smarter or dumber.
If we are to die, let us die like men. -- Patrick Cleburne
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The rule is that they must be loved. --Jayne Fynes-Clinton, Death of an Abandoned Dog
Never got a Scrapper past 9, I think.
The powers don't strilke me as superheroy. Fire Melee is all sorts of "eh" and superheroes with capes who fly don't kick, dangit.
Tales of Judgment. Also here, instead of that other place.
good luck D.B.B.
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On Infinity on Sunday, forming a Sister Psyche TF. Had a warshade on team and he wanted another scrapper for last position. When I check in the Team Find button, only one scrapper was listed and he was level 9. Granted that was just for those who listed themselves as looking for teams, but still.
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That speaks more to me about Infinity than it does the population of scrappers?