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A sunburnt Defender: The Lifeguarder. He's rad/sonic, acquiring his skills ultimately from his experiences as a lifeguard at the beach (i.e. way too much sun [radiation] and yelling at the kids to get out of rip tides [sonic]).
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Hard to say.
Is there an origin power that seems more appropriate for him? (Tranq, throwing knife, or mutagen capsules)
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I'm hashing out a character idea and am looking for opinions on my origin choice:
A sunburnt Defender: The Lifeguarder. He's rad/sonic, acquiring his skills ultimately from his experiences as a lifeguard at the beach (i.e. way too much sun [radiation] and yelling at the kids to get out of rip tides [sonic]).
In your opinion, is that more science (accident/incident gone awry), mutation (powers manifested at adulthood, albeit encouraged by his experiences) or natural (intense training and innate abilities).
I'm leaning towards natural and don't really see going mutation. Your thoughts? 
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If it were a serious character bio, I'd say Science all the way; he ostensibly got the super aspects of his abilities from being irradiated. He's only Mutation if those were latent powers derived from inborn mutant genes.
But if it's entirely meant as a joke character, you can say Natural and it wouldn't be an issue.
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I'm hashing out a character idea and am looking for opinions on my origin choice:
A sunburnt Defender: The Lifeguarder. He's rad/sonic, acquiring his skills ultimately from his experiences as a lifeguard at the beach (i.e. way too much sun [radiation] and yelling at the kids to get out of rip tides [sonic]).
In your opinion, is that more science (accident/incident gone awry), mutation (powers manifested at adulthood, albeit encouraged by his experiences) or natural (intense training and innate abilities).
I'm leaning towards natural and don't really see going mutation. Your thoughts?
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If it were a serious character bio, I'd say Science all the way; he ostensibly got the super aspects of his abilities from being irradiated. He's only Mutation if those were latent powers derived from inborn mutant genes.
But if it's entirely meant as a joke character, you can say Natural and it wouldn't be an issue.
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I'd lean more toward natural or Mutation over science, there was no sort of scientific inquiry or process, his powers appeared through natural behavior, the question is was that because of an inherent mutation or not.
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If it were a serious character bio, I'd say Science all the way; he ostensibly got the super aspects of his abilities from being irradiated. He's only Mutation if those were latent powers derived from inborn mutant genes.
But if it's entirely meant as a joke character, you can say Natural and it wouldn't be an issue.
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I'd lean more toward natural or Mutation over science, there was no sort of scientific inquiry or process, his powers appeared through natural behavior, the question is was that because of an inherent mutation or not.
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It is a serious character which is why I'm asking... I actually started him as mutation and immediately thought "this isn't right..." Mutation seems to be purely something that was there at birth, and would therefore not be susceptible to his environment.
In part, he is natural since his powers were derived from his day to day, but they were enhanced to heroic abilities. Since part of his abilities include firing radiation from his hands I'm thinking "natural" probably doesn't cut it. 
Thank you for your input!
I think mutation... he already had great shouting skills and that what got him hired as a Lifeguard, but since he doesn't wear sun screen, the suns radiation amplyfied his mutation and even have him power over radiation.
You don't have to have been conducting any scientific inquiry or involved with any experiments for it to be Science origin. Walking down the street and getting splashed with toxic waste from a passing truck would be Science origin.
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If it were a serious character bio, I'd say Science all the way; he ostensibly got the super aspects of his abilities from being irradiated. He's only Mutation if those were latent powers derived from inborn mutant genes.
But if it's entirely meant as a joke character, you can say Natural and it wouldn't be an issue.
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I'd lean more toward natural or Mutation over science, there was no sort of scientific inquiry or process, his powers appeared through natural behavior, the question is was that because of an inherent mutation or not.
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It is a serious character which is why I'm asking... I actually started him as mutation and immediately thought "this isn't right..." Mutation seems to be purely something that was there at birth, and would therefore not be susceptible to his environment.
In part, he is natural since his powers were derived from his day to day, but they were enhanced to heroic abilities. Since part of his abilities include firing radiation from his hands I'm thinking "natural" probably doesn't cut it.
Thank you for your input!
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Mutation could well be there from birth - just not apparent until exposed/trained/used.
"The Lifeguard's abilities stem from a mutation that just wasn't evident initially - the ability to store and redirect energy. Sure, maybe he stayed hyper from being over-sugared longer than some kids. His high school football coach had even joked they could only use him on sunny days, not knowing just how true that was. The job as a lifeguard brought it all to the open, though.
"Merely a month and he was yelling louder than solely a pair of healthy, well-used lungs could explain. If he needed to make himself heard, he had the energy from being in the sun all day long to do so. The short-lived (one hour) reign of terror of what could have been another Lusca, where he found himself directing energy to stun, then destroy the creature, convinced him he had a new career..."
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If it were a serious character bio, I'd say Science all the way; he ostensibly got the super aspects of his abilities from being irradiated. He's only Mutation if those were latent powers derived from inborn mutant genes.
But if it's entirely meant as a joke character, you can say Natural and it wouldn't be an issue.
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I'd lean more toward natural or Mutation over science, there was no sort of scientific inquiry or process, his powers appeared through natural behavior, the question is was that because of an inherent mutation or not.
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It is a serious character which is why I'm asking... I actually started him as mutation and immediately thought "this isn't right..." Mutation seems to be purely something that was there at birth, and would therefore not be susceptible to his environment.
In part, he is natural since his powers were derived from his day to day, but they were enhanced to heroic abilities. Since part of his abilities include firing radiation from his hands I'm thinking "natural" probably doesn't cut it.
Thank you for your input!
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Mutation could well be there from birth - just not apparent until exposed/trained/used.
"The Lifeguard's abilities stem from a mutation that just wasn't evident initially - the ability to store and redirect energy. Sure, maybe he stayed hyper from being over-sugared longer than some kids. His high school football coach had even joked they could only use him on sunny days, not knowing just how true that was. The job as a lifeguard brought it all to the open, though.
"Merely a month and he was yelling louder than solely a pair of healthy, well-used lungs could explain. If he needed to make himself heard, he had the energy from being in the sun all day long to do so. The short-lived (one hour) reign of terror of what could have been another Lusca, where he found himself directing energy to stun, then destroy the creature, convinced him he had a new career..."
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Latent mutations can also surface under intense stress - like the kind you're under when you're running in slow-motion trying to rescue someone from David Hasselhoff in orange trunks or whatever.
Still, the OP has the same Mutation definition I do: it's in the genes you're born with. Your powers can be activated by some external event, but they don't directly come from an external event. Otherwise, you've got a Science hero.
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You don't have to have been conducting any scientific inquiry or involved with any experiments for it to be Science origin. Walking down the street and getting splashed with toxic waste from a passing truck would be Science origin.
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What he said.
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Knockback is mitigation. It won't be removed just because meleers ***** and moan. - Chaos Creator
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If it were a serious character bio, I'd say Science all the way; he ostensibly got the super aspects of his abilities from being irradiated. He's only Mutation if those were latent powers derived from inborn mutant genes.
But if it's entirely meant as a joke character, you can say Natural and it wouldn't be an issue.
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I'd lean more toward natural or Mutation over science, there was no sort of scientific inquiry or process, his powers appeared through natural behavior, the question is was that because of an inherent mutation or not.
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It is a serious character which is why I'm asking... I actually started him as mutation and immediately thought "this isn't right..." Mutation seems to be purely something that was there at birth, and would therefore not be susceptible to his environment.
In part, he is natural since his powers were derived from his day to day, but they were enhanced to heroic abilities. Since part of his abilities include firing radiation from his hands I'm thinking "natural" probably doesn't cut it.
Thank you for your input!
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Mutation could well be there from birth - just not apparent until exposed/trained/used.
"The Lifeguard's abilities stem from a mutation that just wasn't evident initially - the ability to store and redirect energy. Sure, maybe he stayed hyper from being over-sugared longer than some kids. His high school football coach had even joked they could only use him on sunny days, not knowing just how true that was. The job as a lifeguard brought it all to the open, though.
"Merely a month and he was yelling louder than solely a pair of healthy, well-used lungs could explain. If he needed to make himself heard, he had the energy from being in the sun all day long to do so. The short-lived (one hour) reign of terror of what could have been another Lusca, where he found himself directing energy to stun, then destroy the creature, convinced him he had a new career..."
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I now really, really, REALLY want to use this bio. :0
OP, use this one. It makes (comic book) sense. It's written. And it just plain rocks.
Incidentally, there's an X-Man called Lifeguard whose power was to manifest whatever powers were necessary to save a life.
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Incidentally, there's an X-Man called Lifeguard whose power was to manifest whatever powers were necessary to save a life.
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IIRC she was actually a half-human, half-alien hybrid and not a mutant. Also, that was during a really unfortunate period of bad ideas for the series, and should not be looked at as any decent source of inspiration. 
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Knockback is mitigation. It won't be removed just because meleers ***** and moan. - Chaos Creator
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That would be a scientific accident, sitting in the sun and yelling at kids would not
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You don't have to have been conducting any scientific inquiry or involved with any experiments for it to be Science origin. Walking down the street and getting splashed with toxic waste from a passing truck would be Science origin.
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That would be a scientific accident, sitting in the sun and yelling at kids would not
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It would if he sat in the sun and absorbed enough UV radiation to mutate him.
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Knockback is mitigation. It won't be removed just because meleers ***** and moan. - Chaos Creator
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You don't have to have been conducting any scientific inquiry or involved with any experiments for it to be Science origin. Walking down the street and getting splashed with toxic waste from a passing truck would be Science origin.
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That would be a scientific accident, sitting in the sun and yelling at kids would not
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The kids could be one though
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You don't have to have been conducting any scientific inquiry or involved with any experiments for it to be Science origin. Walking down the street and getting splashed with toxic waste from a passing truck would be Science origin.
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That would be a scientific accident, sitting in the sun and yelling at kids would not
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It would if he sat in the sun and absorbed enough UV radiation to mutate him.
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The difference between Mutation and Science is that Science is outside effects acting upon you to change you while Mutation is having the change itself be native to you. It's an issue of whether the change to your DNA or whatever was after you were born or before. Captain America is Science because the Super Soldier Serum made him awesome like that (combined with a hefty dose of personal training). So is Spider Man. The X-Men are Mutants because, even if they grew up in a completely different universe where nothing happened to them, they'd still have their powers because they were born into them.
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You don't have to have been conducting any scientific inquiry or involved with any experiments for it to be Science origin. Walking down the street and getting splashed with toxic waste from a passing truck would be Science origin.
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That would be a scientific accident, sitting in the sun and yelling at kids would not
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It would if he sat in the sun and absorbed enough UV radiation to mutate him.
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The difference between Mutation and Science is that Science is outside effects acting upon you to change you while Mutation is having the change itself be native to you. It's an issue of whether the change to your DNA or whatever was after you were born or before. Captain America is Science because the Super Soldier Serum made him awesome like that (combined with a hefty dose of personal training). So is Spider Man. The X-Men are Mutants because, even if they grew up in a completely different universe where nothing happened to them, they'd still have their powers because they were born into them.
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I'm well aware of the difference; I'm even advocating it in several other threads. Substitute the word "alter" for "mutate" in my last post for clarification of a way to suggest a Science origin for the character in question. It was supposed to effectively read, "It would be a Scientific accident (and therefore, Science origin) if [the character] had absorbed enough UV radiation to artificially mutate him." That is not meant to suggest that a character mutated by a Science experiment is Mutant origin, which by my standards is incorrect.
Suggestions made by me and others of how this character could be true Mutation origin are further upthread.
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Why am I not surprised in the least?
And I still say this character should be Natural.
id lean towrds mutant because sci dont make sence or we would have moer super hero life guards you had to be diffrent from birth or the sun would have no effect on you. if your a human and not an hybid of some sort. now if you steped in some radioactive wast one day on the way to the beach or you had contact with some other outside factor while at the beach that changed you.. but if you whant them to just one day pop up thats got mutant all over it
A case could be made for science. Just add a third element. Some "radioactive isotope" that was accidentally ingested then reacted with the UV radiation being soaked up after so long in the sun to grant powers. WHAM-O! Science bio for the guy.
Lifeguards do have to have SOMEthing to drink while they're working to stay hydrated. Especially if they're out in the sun all day. 
There I was between a rock and a hard place. Then I thought, "What am I doing on this side of the rock?"
As described in the OP it'd be Natural. It's implied that anyone who spent that much time in the sun and doing all that shouting would also develop rad/sonic powers. It'd have to be kinda tongue-in-cheek if you go that route though, since in that version of the world pretty much all lifeguards would have superpowers (and indeed, becoming a lifeguard, or just lazing around on the beach all day, is now a reliable route to superpowers).
For non-Natural you'd kinda need to introduce another factor to the backstory, one which explains why he developed those powers while other lifeguards just stayed sunburnt, possibly hoarse, and distinctly lacking in superpowers. What that factor is determines whether it's Mutant or Science.
For Mutation you can have a mutation that was latent and is triggered (perhaps by all that solar radiation, or perhaps just by age) and now is always on, or you could have the mutation be that he's "solar powered" - it's always been "active" but it was only once he spent all that time lifeguarding that he soaked up enough sun to power up (and thus he needs to continue his excessive solar exposure to maintain his powers).
For Science you can have the character be exposed to something that changes him to either gain those powers directly, or that changes him so solar radiation now induces those powers (swallows a mouthful of a nearby toxic spill, weird cosmic rays, bitten by a radioactive shark, etc). Possibly it's the excessive levels of sun he's already been exposed to that interacts with this extra element to produce powers (where a less sun-exposed person would see no effect, or would die). Or possibly it's something that interacts with the solar radiation en-route, such that it's changed into something new and super-powering by the time it reaches him.
That's my interpretation anyway.
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It would if he sat in the sun and absorbed enough UV radiation to mutate him.
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in this case Superman is Science origin.
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in this case Superman is Science origin.
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Except Superman didn't mutate. He always had the ability to convert yellow sunlight into power.
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The Superman as a natural versus a science is always an interesting debate. Personally, I'd place him firmly in the Natural origin for a few reasons. First off, every Kryptonian has the same ability. One of the primary differences between Natural, Mutant, and Science is that Mutant and Science powers are outside of the realm of normal for their species. Secondly, he's simply more powerful because of location. If a human was transported to a world with one third of the gravity of Earth where all of the native life was less dense because of this, would they be science or natural (the answer is Natural)? It's simply a trait of their species that allows them to act in a supernatural manner within the conditions they find themselves in. The last is that, without continued exposure to our yellow sun, Superman would be completely without his powers (though the duration that he needs to be without the yellow sun radiation in order to lose his powers varies heavily). One of the hallmarks of the Science origin is that the changes are permanent. You can remove the exposure and the character will still have his/her powers.
I still say the OP use that bio someone wrote out for him. That thing rocked. >_>
I'm hashing out a character idea and am looking for opinions on my origin choice:
A sunburnt Defender: The Lifeguarder. He's rad/sonic, acquiring his skills ultimately from his experiences as a lifeguard at the beach (i.e. way too much sun [radiation] and yelling at the kids to get out of rip tides [sonic]).
In your opinion, is that more science (accident/incident gone awry), mutation (powers manifested at adulthood, albeit encouraged by his experiences) or natural (intense training and innate abilities).
I'm leaning towards natural and don't really see going mutation. Your thoughts?