Performance shifter Chance for + End
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Posted on: 2009-06-30 12:26 in The Market and Inventions
What kind of attacks would you be putting it in? I'm assuming electric of some sort? Keep in mind that the Performance Shifter proc is set to give endurance to the target of the ability. It works in Stamina because that is you. If you place it in something like Lightning Bolt it will give your enemy endurance back. (To state the obvious, that's worse than useless.)
No way is that right. If I put it in an attack I'm giving endurance? argh....
It should work fine in attacks that drain end and give it to you though, Dark Melee's whateveritscalledagain and Fire's Consume for example.
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It should work fine in attacks that drain end and give it to you though, Dark Melee's whateveritscalledagain and Fire's Consume for example.
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What about havoc punch and jacobs ladder?
Rest assured that unless there was a recent change with ish 15 (which I doubt) that if you put that proc into ANY end draining attack you will be giving stamina back to the enemy.
Quick Recovery, Stamina, and Kheldian transform powers are where it goes.
Put it in Stamina.. thats the best place for it...
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It should work fine in attacks that drain end and give it to you though, Dark Melee's whateveritscalledagain and Fire's Consume for example.
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What about havoc punch and jacobs ladder?
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It will give endurance to your enemies in havoc punch and jacob's ladder because the target of the power is the enemy. In powers like consume and powersink, although they affect enemies, their primary effect is giving back endurance to you, and therefore you are the target.
I believe the power information now also displays the target of a power so you can check in game, for powers that affect you and a foe, which is the "official" target for the +end.
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It should work fine in attacks that drain end and give it to you though, Dark Melee's whateveritscalledagain and Fire's Consume for example.
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Dark Consumption and Consume do DAMAGE. They don't drain endurance, that's how the PS Proc works in it.
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It should work fine in attacks that drain end and give it to you though, Dark Melee's whateveritscalledagain and Fire's Consume for example.
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Dark Consumption and Consume do DAMAGE. They don't drain endurance, that's how the PS Proc works in it.
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Actually, this is not correct. As Sarrate said and I reiterated, they work in these powers because you are the "target", as opposed to the enemies you are effecting, that these powers deal damage has nothing to do with it. For example, even though Power Sink drains endurance from enemies, you are still the target and will therefore get the endurance back while, assuming it's working correctly, the proc will have no impact on the enemies you drain.
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What about Transferrence from Kinetics? Since it doesn't do damage, but takes and gives END?
Here is a related question. What is the case when a Performance Shifter Chance for +End is slotted in both Stamina AND Quick Recovery? Will there be two chances for +End each 10 seconds? What if both hit, do they stack?
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What about Transferrence from Kinetics? Since it doesn't do damage, but takes and gives END?
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No. Transference's Target is the foe and therefore slotting it in transference will give the additional endurance to the foes, not to you and your teammates.
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Here is a related question. What is the case when a Performance Shifter Chance for +End is slotted in both Stamina AND Quick Recovery? Will there be two chances for +End each 10 seconds? What if both hit, do they stack?
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Yes, each proc will have a chance to fire every 10 seconds. I'm not certain that stacking is the right term since it is a one time bonus and not a recovery buff, but yes, if both fire at the same time you will get 20 end. These can also be slotted along with the panacea pvp proc for an additional chance for 7.5 end.
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What about Transferrence from Kinetics? Since it doesn't do damage, but takes and gives END?
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No. Transference's Target is the foe and therefore slotting it in transference will give the additional endurance to the foes, not to you and your teammates.
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Hold It! Transference summons a pet upon activation - wouldn't it transfer the proc just like it did with Touch of the Nictus before that bug was fixed (immediately after I13)?
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What about Transferrence from Kinetics? Since it doesn't do damage, but takes and gives END?
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No. Transference's Target is the foe and therefore slotting it in transference will give the additional endurance to the foes, not to you and your teammates.
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Hold It! Transference summons a pet upon activation - wouldn't it transfer the proc just like it did with Touch of the Nictus before that bug was fixed (immediately after I13)?
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Hmmm, true. It would definitely have a chance to proc on the target, but it might also have a chance to proc on your allies. I guess I spoke too quickly, someone would need to test this case then. However, i suspect that it is set not to inherit the proc as otherwise it would likely have to inherit the chance for disorient proc as well.
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IME Transferrence slotted with PS proc = End going back to the enemy. I totally refilled Valkerie on an RSF with it >.<
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Here is a related question. What is the case when a Performance Shifter Chance for +End is slotted in both Stamina AND Quick Recovery? Will there be two chances for +End each 10 seconds? What if both hit, do they stack?
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Heheh you'll have so much end you won't know what to do with it. I have a Spines/Regen scrapper with both my Stamina and QR slotted with PS and the proc and with 2 of those babies slotted I get a +10 endurance boost like every 5 seconds. I can run Integration, Tough, Weave, Quills, and FA perma without my blue bar even slightly budging.
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Ditto.
Any Regeneration character I have has one in Stamina and Quick Recovery, and it is beautiful.
If you are Electric Armor, place a second one in Power Sink.
Anyone know what the effect would be if one of these were placed in Lightning Field?
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Ditto.
Any Regeneration character I have has one in Stamina and Quick Recovery, and it is beautiful.
If you are Electric Armor, place a second one in Power Sink.
Anyone know what the effect would be if one of these were placed in Lightning Field?
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you'd grant end to enemies
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Ditto.
Any Regeneration character I have has one in Stamina and Quick Recovery, and it is beautiful.
If you are Electric Armor, place a second one in Power Sink.
Anyone know what the effect would be if one of these were placed in Lightning Field?
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huh..never occurred to me you could slot more then one of these 
..altho, ive never io'd a high lvl regen or willpower..kewl
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holy crap, I just got the recipe over the weekend and was planning to put it in my elec/ corr's basic attacks.
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Ditto.
Any Regeneration character I have has one in Stamina and Quick Recovery, and it is beautiful.
If you are Electric Armor, place a second one in Power Sink.
Anyone know what the effect would be if one of these were placed in Lightning Field?
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Rest assured that unless there was a recent change with ish 15 (which I doubt) that if you put that proc into ANY end draining attack you will be giving stamina back to the enemy.
Quick Recovery, Stamina, and Kheldian transform powers are where it goes. QR and Stamina are always on and the Proc will check at regular intervals for the chance to bestow 10 stamina to your toon. If you have QR+Stamina, put one in each and enjoy. Kheldian Transformation powers are on until turned off so the proc will always run while you are transformed. If you are a Tripleform Kheldian and you took the Fitness/Stamina power then you can have a Proc in Nova, Dwarf and Human Mode. Only one proc will work in any form, but that's fine.
Last time I tested on TEST server with one of my electric brutes, Lighting Field would give stamina back to the enemies and Power Sink also gave stamina back to the enemies. So unless there was a change to the proc that I missed do NOT install it in Powersink or Lightning Field. Note: my last Test server check of the proc was a long while back but I've read of NO changes to the proc.
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Last time I tested on TEST server with one of my electric brutes, Lighting Field would give stamina back to the enemies and Power Sink also gave stamina back to the enemies. So unless there was a change to the proc that I missed do NOT install it in Powersink or Lightning Field. Note: my last Test server check of the proc was a long while back but I've read of NO changes to the proc.
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Hmm...well, i just tested that and looks like I'll have to correct myself from earlier. Currently powersink does only give endurance to enemies. Just tested it. Teach me to post without going and actually testing it to be sure.
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Obviously the best place for these is in stamina but if I have an End heavy build how often will it hit off if I put one or a few in attack powers as well or does it not at all and am I best just having the on ein stamina?