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Can't say we didn't see it coming after it got blabbed and then some on the market boards. I was actually VERY surprised to see so many people boasting about how much money they were making from a pretty obvious...not working as intended situation.
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what's obvious about it?
they're PvP IO's, people were getting them in a PvP environment.
Farmers commonly pad their missions to increase the quantity of drops they get, either with multiple accounts or recruiting others.
And I've said this before but apparently it needs repeating- a few posts in a backwater sub-forum aren't ringing any alarm bells at Dev Central. Those are generated by the immense flood of numbers they sift 24/7.
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But a few posts in even a backwater forum will get thousands more doing the same, which then will show up in the devs datamining.
There every reason to thnk there is a casue and effect going on.
I don't suffer from altitis, I enjoy every minute of it.
Thank you Devs & Community people for a great game.
So sad to be ending ):
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According to Castle it's a bug .
Thank goodness I didn't act too rashly regarding my listed PVP IO's.
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You have a drastically inflated opinion of the power of the Market Forum.
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except that there isn't, because Castle sez it's a bug.
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Meh, I think folks tend to "misunderstimate" the effect of "small groups of elitists on forums, etc." on the general population. I see it as a trickle down, slippery slope of an avalanche. I'm generally in the minority on this opinion although it seems to bear weight in a very offhand, armchair quarterbacking kind of way.
The dissemination of info, at all, must have SOME effect. I still have a few friends on my rapidly dwindling global list that don't read forums at all yet they seem to know all the usual hacks and farms and such. HOW DO DEY KNOW!?!?
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Well it most assuredly wouldn't have anything whatsoever to do with BUFFOONS SHOUTING THE INFO IN BROADCAST.
And it definitely would have not a thing to do with encountering pockets of lag and wondering, "Gee, I wonder why all these people are clustered at the tram/at Portal Corps/in RWZ/in Atlas' AE/etc."
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You have a drastically inflated opinion of the power of the Market Forum.
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except that there isn't, because Castle sez it's a bug.
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Its amazing the response you get from a reasonably worded question/commnent in the right place, isn't it ?
Im happy it is noted as a bug, hope its a quick fix.
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You have a drastically inflated opinion of the power of the Market Forum.
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There every reason to thnk there is a casue and effect going on.
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except that there isn't, because Castle sez it's a bug.
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Its amazing the response you get from a reasonably worded question/commnent in the right place, isn't it ?
Im happy it is noted as a bug, hope its a quick fix.
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I don't. I still have my 100M one to sell. 
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This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
I pm'd Castle yesterday when I saw this thread and I guess he took note.
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Was there an undocumented change PVP IO drop rates, or the whole drop system for them entirely changed ?
If so this should have been noted here, even if flagged as an exploit fix internally and wasn't in the test notes.
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So I guess they haven't fixed it yet. Sigh...
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You have a drastically inflated opinion of the power of the Market Forum.
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except that there isn't, because Castle sez it's a bug.
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Its amazing the response you get from a reasonably worded question/commnent in the right place, isn't it ?
Im happy it is noted as a bug, hope its a quick fix.
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I don't. I still have my 100M one to sell.
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This. I have several PvP IOs that were listed at about 75% of last-5 pricing weeks ago when a sudden crash occurred, leaving me with one character hold 7 slots of PvP IOs that I'm too stubborn to pull and relist at half off what they're already listed for. If the shortage lasts long enough, maybe my prices will be attractive enough for them to sell.
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You have a drastically inflated opinion of the power of the Market Forum.
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Perhaps (re drasticaly inflated opinion). Or you vastly under rate how many lurkers use marketing posts for information, or how that information is dasiy chained along.
Be interesting to know for certain. Maybe looking at the bust my niche thread to see how quickly the niches get busted.... or looking at how many viewers the board gets. Dont really know any way to know. I doubt it would be a flood from just market posts, but I also feel its more than a little trickle.
I also meant the cause and effect more in general, not over this specific issue though.
I know I started running the 4 merits 'break up skulls' thingajig only after reading it here, and sure I'm not the only one.
I don't suffer from altitis, I enjoy every minute of it.
Thank you Devs & Community people for a great game.
So sad to be ending ):
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I spent a lot of time and energy in here blowing the horn for Dark Astoria, back in the early days of the market when "everything" was too expensive and "only 50's" could afford anything.
Farming DA and selling drops could make anyone rich.
The thread went on and on, and eventually I convinced all but the most cement-headed reprobates that it worked.
The result?
DA was still empty every time I went there.
I did turn on quite a few people to the joys of blowing up zombies, but the number wasn't even a drop in the ocean of the larger game world.
I'll agree that with things that are super simple with zero entry requirements there can be a snowball effect. Meow farms, fer instance.
But for anything with higher requirements, the #'s won't be meaningful.
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so....any word when the bug is going to be fixed?
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Hopefully not for a little while longer. Just sold 2 PvP IOs (which I bought for <25M each) for 100M. When I bought them, I was bidding about 60% of last-5 pricing. They have more than doubled in "Buy it na0!" price since. I have 3 more to sell before I want this bug fixed.
If I sell the 2 I have left and the over-priced LotG +rchg I have listed, I'll finally have 1B on hand for one character. Clearly, the devs need to *NOT* fix this one too quickly.
RagManX
"if the market were religion Fulmens would be Moses and you'd be L. Ron Hubbard. " --Nethergoat to eryq2
The economy is not broken. The players are
I don't expect a fix this week but I wouldn't be surprised if they fix it and patch it along with other things by next Tuesday.
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This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
Yeah, i did the same thing. I spend one billion infamy yesterday buying up every pvp recipe I could. Hope it turns a nice profit ...
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I spent a lot of time and energy in here blowing the horn for Dark Astoria, back in the early days of the market when "everything" was too expensive and "only 50's" could afford anything.
Farming DA and selling drops could make anyone rich.
The thread went on and on, and eventually I convinced all but the most cement-headed reprobates that it worked.
The result?
DA was still empty every time I went there.
I did turn on quite a few people to the joys of blowing up zombies, but the number wasn't even a drop in the ocean of the larger game world.
I'll agree that with things that are super simple with zero entry requirements there can be a snowball effect. Meow farms, fer instance.
But for anything with higher requirements, the #'s won't be meaningful.
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I ran in DA a couple of times with my Fire blaster. It was fun, and I did get some ok drops. I got to the point though where I just felt like my time could be better spent leveling up other toons (if I had a toon in that level range naturally, might have been a different story). Basically, I was looking for XP over INF.
That was a while ago of course. These days with the MA cutting down on salvage levels, I'm getting decent enough chunks just by running missions. Best of both worlds.
Suggestions:
Super Packs Done Right
Influence Sink: IO Level Mod/Recrafting
Random Merit Rolls: Scale cost by Toon Level
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That's going to bite you in the butt in the future.
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That's going to bite you in the butt in the future.
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My goal is to turn the 1 billion invested into 2 billion. So far I've sold back 20% of my goods (400 mil). At 50% I'll feel more comfortable because I'll have broken even.
Good work Thugs! Keep those prices up!
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From rags to riches?
Where is your main server, btw? Just curious.
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The screams from the haters, it's got a nice ring to it.
I guess every super hero needs his theme music .."
FYI ... patch that went to test then to live today did NOT say anything about fixing this. I think it was to fix EU servers since they could not even connect to French and German servers.
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That's not how you do this game...
They didn't post they were merging markets and fixing the arena PvP exploits!!! 
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This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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You can farm the Fab with an AFK mastermind, and anywhere in game where baddies tend to come out of doors. Just sayin...
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there's a couple of great choke-points in the forests of Croatoa where giant spawns regularly charge through.
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