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I'm almost wishing I'd held onto all the PvP IOs I sold, because I know I could probably get double what I sold them for now.
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if prices do what I expect them to, I will DEFINITELY be re-spec'ing the Goat and selling the PvP sets I kitted him out with.
That should finance the rest of his purples with a fortune to spare....
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Given how easy it is to farm in the arena... I'm thinking "not a bug." (I'd have two firetanks, one sitting on the respawn spot of the other, swap once you get a recipe, but I haven't given it much thought.)
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It's just another attempt to get players to the PvP zones. 
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Is that why they added all kinds of arena badges?
This was my way of IO'ing out all my 50s that I have shelved for so long. Looks like I get to scratch PvP IO farming off my list of reasons I still play.
Damn, my list is smaller than I thought.
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I am trying to come up with a way to say the following that won't be taken as a dev slam so please understand that is not my meaning.
Badges is the responsibility of different devs than IOs, I think, so that would explain the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing kind of event.
Alternatively the badges were added to get people to use the arena since the rewards were going to get removed.
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Not really since the badges reward retroactively based on prior achevement. I got a minimum of 8 badges from arena on each character I have logged in today.
Op, I can confirm that no rewards are currently dropping in the arena.No enfamy//influence,inspi's,salvage or recipes.
I'll not step foot in a zone until there is a no heal decay button implemented for that as well.
Haha, hey guys don't jump down my throat. I was right there farming the recipes too. I'm just being honest about the fact that I knew it wasn't going to last long and I had a pretty good idea that it could be considered an exploit.
Sunday I farmed for about 4-5 hours and got 1 recipe worth 600m, two worth 80m each and 4 or 5 in the 10-20m range.
I agree that they should fix afk farming. It's lame and should be fixed. I also agree that fixing it by turning off ALL arena rewards is ridiculous. I also agree that they're valuable because they're extremely rare, as I implied in an earlier post, so turning off arena drops is only going to make them MORE valuable and move the farming to pvp zones. That works for me, I'll just farm there until they nerf that too...and that's the whole problem of course.
So yeah, let's be clear and honest here. 1 - I did it too. 2 - I'm not calling anyone a 'dirty exploiter'. 3 - We're all (well most of us) intelligent people and knew EXACTLY what we were doing.
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Can't say we didn't see it coming after it got blabbed and then some on the market boards. I was actually VERY surprised to see so many people boasting about how much money they were making from a pretty obvious...not working as intended situation.
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what's obvious about it?
they're PvP IO's, people were getting them in a PvP environment.
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Going afk for 30 mins and coming back with a drop worth 600m inf is pretty obviously an exploit imo.
I appreciate that you'd like the devs to be more specific about it, and I appreciate that the way they handles borderline stuff in the past was terrible...but comon, you're not fooling me with this charade. AFK farming of the most valuable recipes in the game is an exploit.
EDIT - Oh and btw, it's entirely possible they turned it off for now until they figure out how to handle it.
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LOL and what percentage of the population could do that ? Just how many have mutliple accounts and the willing ness to make this happen ?
All they have done is forced people that wanted to make a little inf off this to use more tedious ways of earning it. Great way to slow down player burnout with the game.
It also take one heck of alot longer to get that drop than 30 minutes you would be lucky to get one in 8 hours. But thats neither here nor there.
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I've never gotten a pvp IO drop.
I'm talking about the 'rest' of the game.
Do you feel they need to "fix" those rewards as well as the arena?
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So yeah, let's be clear and honest here. 1 - I did it too. 2 - I'm not calling anyone a 'dirty exploiter'. 3 - We're all (well most of us) intelligent people and knew EXACTLY what we were doing.
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I've never gotten a pvp IO drop.
I'm talking about the 'rest' of the game.
Do you feel they need to "fix" those rewards as well as the arena?
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Couldn't say, I haven't been playing long enough to have much of an opinion on it. I know that the only other activity I can think of where you can get rewards AFK is door-sitting in MA. Was there anything else you were referring to specifically?
My mastermind made quite a bit afk farming in St. Martial. There's this road where lots of Freaks and Wailers wander in and my bots blasted them.
Granted I had to come by and click the spacebar once in a while but I also had to setup my arena battles and summon my pets once every half hour also. The MM move was much easier and at the time very profitable.
But I would add your experiences you listed where you did so well on Sunday would be a bit on the extremely good side. I went over 2 hours with no drops in the arena on Friday and was about to give up when I got one.
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My mastermind made quite a bit afk farming in St. Martial. There's this road where lots of Freaks and Wailers wander in and my bots blasted them.
Granted I had to come by and click the spacebar once in a while but I also had to setup my arena battles and summon my pets once every half hour also. The MM move was much easier and at the time very profitable.
But I would add your experiences you listed where you did so well on Sunday would be a bit on the extremely good side. I went over 2 hours with no drops in the arena on Friday and was about to give up when I got one.
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My mastermind made quite a bit afk farming in St. Martial. There's this road where lots of Freaks and Wailers wander in and my bots blasted them.
Granted I had to come by and click the spacebar once in a while but I also had to setup my arena battles and summon my pets once every half hour also. The MM move was much easier and at the time very profitable.
But I would add your experiences you listed where you did so well on Sunday would be a bit on the extremely good side. I went over 2 hours with no drops in the arena on Friday and was about to give up when I got one.
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2 hours?? How many kills did you get per hour? I was getting ~44 per 30-min run and still managed to net ~1.5 per hour.
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My mastermind made quite a bit afk farming in St. Martial. There's this road where lots of Freaks and Wailers wander in and my bots blasted them.
Granted I had to come by and click the spacebar once in a while but I also had to setup my arena battles and summon my pets once every half hour also. The MM move was much easier and at the time very profitable.
But I would add your experiences you listed where you did so well on Sunday would be a bit on the extremely good side. I went over 2 hours with no drops in the arena on Friday and was about to give up when I got one.
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2 hours?? How many kills did you get per hour? I was getting ~44 per 30-min run and still managed to net ~1.5 per hour.
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I was averaging 50 kills in 30 minutes on all my runs. It as almost always 50 with a few hitting 51 and 52.
But that is the random drop at its best. I also had a run where I got one in every 30 minute run. However as I wrote elsewhere 2 of those drops were only worth 1 million (red side). Before reading this I was hoping for a 100 million payday on my last one for sale which I will probably arrive home to get and see it flipped for 200M.
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This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
FYI, Rejolt reported no rewards in Warburg PvP--presumably he meant no inf/prestige, he didn't specify. But if that's the case, I think that would indicate this is a bug rather than an intentional stealth change.
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FYI, Rejolt reported no rewards in Warburg PvP--presumably he meant no inf/prestige, he didn't specify. But if that's the case, I think that would indicate this is a bug rather than an intentional stealth change.
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Or a stop gap fix until they come up with another solution.
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Haha, hey guys don't jump down my throat. I was right there farming the recipes too. I'm just being honest about the fact that I knew it wasn't going to last long and I had a pretty good idea that it could be considered an exploit.
Sunday I farmed for about 4-5 hours and got 1 recipe worth 600m, two worth 80m each and 4 or 5 in the 10-20m range.
I agree that they should fix afk farming. It's lame and should be fixed. I also agree that fixing it by turning off ALL arena rewards is ridiculous. I also agree that they're valuable because they're extremely rare, as I implied in an earlier post, so turning off arena drops is only going to make them MORE valuable and move the farming to pvp zones. That works for me, I'll just farm there until they nerf that too...and that's the whole problem of course.
So yeah, let's be clear and honest here. 1 - I did it too. 2 - I'm not calling anyone a 'dirty exploiter'. 3 - We're all (well most of us) intelligent people and knew EXACTLY what we were doing.
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I don't bother with PvP and don't care much about PvP IO (I don't even know how to use the arena...I think it's silly that you have to for one of the villain accolades). I do pop in the Market forum from time to time though, and have seen posts on this strategy. That the devs would disable Arena drops comes as absolutely *no* surprise. No risk for high reward. I'm guessing the idea that this will move things to the PvP zones will a) introduce some uncertainty (other parties might try to steal the bounty) and b) increase population in the PvP zones*. We'll see.
Pretty sure that at least one of the mods would have seen posts on this - they weren't exactly hidden.
* I actually like emptier PvP zones, at least when I need Shivans...
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It's the exact same activity- standing around letting your character kill things for drops while you do the dishes, or whatever.
Either your attitude is consistent between pvp & the 'real' game, or it isn't.
Game experience doesn't figure in.
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Nothing is dropping in BB, or RV no inf, prestige, inspirations. not even for the first kill
A little birdy told me there was no intent to change drops for this issue, so it's most likely a bug.
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smells like a bug then.
I can't imagine they'd be stupid enough to just TURN OFF REWARDS for PvP after all the hits the community has taken lately.
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Wonder if they'll ban a bunch of "exploiters" for farming the arena.
Since, ya know, we should have JUST KNOWN it was wrong.
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I guess we just need to take turns being killed and rezzed in the PvP zones instead. That would be so much harder. They really need to hire that 5 year old kid before implementing changes to stop abuse.
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One thing they could do to at least fix the 'AFK' part of arena farming is to have random respawn points after a death. People could still farm arena, but not while AFK.
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One thing they could do to at least fix the 'AFK' part of arena farming is to have random respawn points after a death. People could still farm arena, but not while AFK.
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I will say this whole 'issue" got me to check up on something that was supposed to be relased in July and now is due out on 9/1 ... I'm just saying.
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Couldn't say, I haven't been playing long enough to have much of an opinion on it.
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It's the exact same activity- standing around letting your character kill things for drops while you do the dishes, or whatever.
Either your attitude is consistent between pvp & the 'real' game, or it isn't.
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Well like I said, I've never heard of any other places where you can stand around and kill things while AFK. If you want to share, I'd love to get in on the action.
I would guess, though, that those things are hitting back and therefore you actually have some "risk". AFK arena farming is the best rewards in game for no risk. Not exactly the same thing.
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smells like a bug then.
I can't imagine they'd be stupid enough to just TURN OFF REWARDS for PvP after all the hits the community has taken lately.
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Agreed. If they did do it intentionally without so much as a patch note... well, I don't want to go down that road because I'm reluctant to believe that they're that stupid.
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You can farm the Fab with an AFK mastermind, and anywhere in game where baddies tend to come out of doors. Just sayin...
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You mean, like they did with the Cathedral of Pain Trial and base raids? Yeah, if that's the case I wouldn't expect to see them back anytime in the next few years.
I'm almost wishing I'd held onto all the PvP IOs I sold, because I know I could probably get double what I sold them for now.
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Word. I am very sorry I sold mine over the weekend. I hope my last one remains unsold so I can pull it down and wait.
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