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I won't scream doom or anything... but wow I'm close to it:
Patch notes for build on test - PvP IOs tied to reputation points. They cut the timer for rep from 10 minutes to 5 minutes, but same rules apply.
You kill a guy: 1 pt of rep. You may not kill that guy... and he can't kill you ... for rep for 5 minutes. If either of you kill each other in the next 5 minutes... the timer RESTARTS.
This means you can't even afk farm for 6 to 7 possible drops in arena 30-minute matches.
While this sounds like a great way to stop farming... it just absolutely crushed anyones hopes of getting complete IOs builds from here on out for pvp.
Just... wow. I'm so mad I sold as much as I did to this point...
If you have something listed... take it down NOW.
Unless someone wants to try on test to see if it's 1 in 100 still or they made it more common than that.
Just... wow.
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Heh, yeah it was a "bug" when they turned PvP IOs off.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
I'll still AFK farm it when I'm not doing anything.
Triple or quad boxing will still give me a little over twenty chance rolls.
And, if I happen to get anything .. well, this patch guarantees I can likely set the price on it.
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I'll still AFK farm it when I'm not doing anything.
Triple or quad boxing will still give me a little over twenty chance rolls.
And, if I happen to get anything .. well, this patch guarantees I can likely set the price on it.
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That was my point as well. Now I WANT to farm the hell out of them since 1 drop will equal a ton of cash.
"Publisizing this information will probably lead to an decrease in the drop rate. If you like your new income, I'd consider editing the content. "
I posted that in immediate response to Mr. Turtle but you all ignored me and now our income has been nerfed severely.
Let me summarize ... I TOLD YOU SO !
OMG YES A FORUM POST MUST HAVE TIPPED THEM OFF!
I'm pretty down on the capabilities of the devs lately, but they aren't mouth-breathing hill people who need us to tell them that nearly all the PvP IOs were coming from arena farming.
The intent of the IOs was to encourage PvP. If people can get them fighting themselves in the arena, that undermines their utility. It was obviously going to get changed.
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"Publisizing this information will probably lead to an decrease in the drop rate. If you like your new income, I'd consider editing the content. "
I posted that in immediate response to Mr. Turtle but you all ignored me and now our income has been nerfed severely.
Let me summarize ... I TOLD YOU SO !
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I seem to have made more since they found out about it...
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
Seems like the recipes are going for the same amount as the crafted IO. Same with purples. Getting kinda hard to make inf buying the recipe and crafting it.
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"Publisizing this information will probably lead to an decrease in the drop rate. If you like your new income, I'd consider editing the content. "
I posted that in immediate response to Mr. Turtle but you all ignored me and now our income has been nerfed severely.
Let me summarize ... I TOLD YOU SO !
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Hahahhaahahaha...cough..cough...spit...hahahahaha
Yeah I am sure my post caused the nerf
You can get off your high horse there Mr I Told You So
I can see you now snapping your head like come kinda chicken with your finger waving back and forth saying it "I TOLD YOU SO!"
Hahahaahahaha...cough...cough....damn...I now I need need underwear
I'd laugh with you Snappin' but "blamestorming" makes me angry. Much like anyone who has ever snake egg farmed, rikti portal farmed, killed things in AE that give unreal rewards for no effort: the devs know, they're just trying to do a number of things and how rampant it is shoots it up the to-do list.
Your post did next to nothing. If anything, you were Slim Pickens bronco riding the bomb on the way to it's target cause we knew this was gonna get changed. At least you had a smile your face on the way down!
And I posted in your forum with the other well known way to do this outside of arena, so they can come I TOLD YOU SO! to me as well.
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I'd laugh with you Snappin' but "blamestorming" makes me angry. Much like anyone who has ever snake egg farmed, rikti portal farmed, killed things in AE that give unreal rewards for no effort: the devs know, they're just trying to do a number of things and how rampant it is shoots it up the to-do list.
Your post did next to nothing. If anything, you were Slim Pickens bronco riding the bomb on the way to it's target cause we knew this was gonna get changed. At least you had a smile your face on the way down!
And I posted in your forum with the other well known way to do this outside of arena, so they can come I TOLD YOU SO! to me as well.
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You posted the Bloody Bay method? I had to PM Moldy to ask how it was done >
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You posted the Bloody Bay method? I had to PM Moldy to ask how it was done >
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Someone posted it in this very thread, IINM.
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You posted the Bloody Bay method? I had to PM Moldy to ask how it was done >
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Someone posted it in this very thread, IINM.
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Meh the warburg way is much slower than the bloody bay way.
lol everytime I think I'm getting ahead with a gimmick... someone has either done what I do or is doing it x 10 better.
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An observation, if I may.
People noted that PvP rewards seemed to have stopped dropping almost as soon as I15 came out. Here's the thing, though - they were dropping during open beta on the test server (I'd know, as I got a Panacea proc as a drop during an 8v8). Remember that tiny little patch two or three days before I15 went live? That was the only patch between when I got my drop and when the issue went live - the fact that PvP rewards weren't happening was not a bug, but a deliberate code change in that patch.
I don't even remember there being patch notes for that patch (which was something like 7MB if I recall).
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An observation, if I may.
People noted that PvP rewards seemed to have stopped dropping almost as soon as I15 came out. Here's the thing, though - they were dropping during open beta on the test server (I'd know, as I got a Panacea proc as a drop during an 8v8). Remember that tiny little patch two or three days before I15 went live? That was the only patch between when I got my drop and when the issue went live - the fact that PvP rewards weren't happening was not a bug, but a deliberate code change in that patch.
I don't even remember there being patch notes for that patch (which was something like 7MB if I recall).
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I figured something like that. It was especially blatantly obvious when the PO's suddenly became bugged, and then when it was fixed, the system had changed.
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Macskull: Let's pretend for a moment that the Devs fear the wrath of the playerbase. Let's pretend for a moment that the small number of people farming PVP IO's are a significant part of the playerbase.
Do you really think that the people who posted the fatwa against powerlevellers are really going to try a weak, ineffective ruse to deflect your nerdrage?
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I'll counter with it was a bug in that the drop rule change went in ahead of the rep rule change resulting in no drops.
But they knew they were planning to make this change and held that info back.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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Macskull: Let's pretend for a moment that the Devs fear the wrath of the playerbase. Let's pretend for a moment that the small number of people farming PVP IO's are a significant part of the playerbase.
Do you really think that the people who posted the fatwa against powerlevellers are really going to try a weak, ineffective ruse to deflect your nerdrage?
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In defense of conspiracy theories, it could be they were wary of driving away what bees remained in the PvP hive they'd already smoked out pretty thoroughly.
If it was an accident, it was an unlikely one and very fortuitous for the devs.
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Macskull: Let's pretend for a moment that the Devs fear the wrath of the playerbase. Let's pretend for a moment that the small number of people farming PVP IO's are a significant part of the playerbase.
Do you really think that the people who posted the fatwa against powerlevellers are really going to try a weak, ineffective ruse to deflect your nerdrage?
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Nerdrage? Hardly. I'm just less than convinced that the rewards suddenly stopping when I15 went live was a bug.
Kind of like how I'm less than convinced that unsuppressed movement (SB, IR, etc) in PvP was a bug from issues 4 to 13 (apparently it was). Kind of like how I'm less than convinced that PSW's performance was a bug from issues 6 to 15 (sure it was overpowered, but a bug!?). Kind of like how I'm less than convinced that pseudopets inheriting recharge from the caster was a bug from issues 7 to 14.
Honestly, I don't care that they found a way to kill off PvP IO farms (it's a clever solution, I must admit). I do, however, care that the method they've replaced the old drop system with actually penalizes the "intended" method of PvP and makes the likelihood of getting a drop during normal zone/arena play (which was already low given the nature of those activities) even lower.
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On the plus side, the 'new way' will probably get the Goat into the Billionaire's Club if/when I find the motivation to respec out those PvP sets I bought him when prices were merely outrageous.
=D
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I cant wait to see what kinda influence/infamy I pick up later on when prices skyrocket. I pulled 5 Panacea triples that were all selling at 125 mil when they were still dropping, I have a full set of ranged damage PvPOs and some other random stuff.
Villainside its all mix and match stuff but they were listed in the 50-60 mil range before I removed em
I bought about 6 PO's for somewhere around 5-10 mil each, and just checked them about 30 minutes ago. All of them were going for 80-100 mil. I also found out that the Glad Armor proc I had drop for me is going for 700 mil right now--hoping it hits 1 bil and I'll finish my Dom =p
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I bought about 6 PO's for somewhere around 5-10 mil each, and just checked them about 30 minutes ago. All of them were going for 80-100 mil. I also found out that the Glad Armor proc I had drop for me is going for 700 mil right now--hoping it hits 1 bil and I'll finish my Dom =p
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/em soapbox
a Proc is an IO that has an effect that executes every N time period or has a chance to execute every N. A global effect is always on as long as you have the set bonus. The gladiator's armor global is not a proc.
Thank you.
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I bought about 6 PO's for somewhere around 5-10 mil each, and just checked them about 30 minutes ago. All of them were going for 80-100 mil. I also found out that the Glad Armor proc I had drop for me is going for 700 mil right now--hoping it hits 1 bil and I'll finish my Dom =p
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/em soapbox
a Proc is an IO that has an effect that executes every N time period or has a chance to execute every N. A global effect is always on as long as you have the set bonus. The gladiator's armor global is not a proc.
Thank you.
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lol
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@Siphonic
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Couldn't the same strategy used in rep farming (the 400 rep badge/gladiator) be used here? While not as efficient as just killing the same target over and over again, cycling through a few alts would still yield an *acceptable* kill rate? My personal experience with a very good alt cycler was 7 alts / 10 minutes.