I love take my plant/storm controller into my MA arc, which is filled with various fire-blasting, debuffing LTs -- fire/dark, fire/sonic, fire/kin, and fire/thermal. SoC with the Contagious Confusion proc is a very safe and effective opener! Of course, it can miss, which creates a challenge....
And while I do benefit from the buffs/debuffs of the confused foes, so do they. I then enjoy the race to take them out before they do too much damage to each other. What makes the mission so much fun, however, is when I inadvertantly aggro two or three spawns at one time. (Tornado, Lightning Storm, Creepers, and Audrey can all spill over to adjacent groups. Further the overwhelming graphical chaos often leads me to throwing an AOE attack at the next group as I tab furiously through -this- group. :P)
The fight to claw my way out of a super-debuffed hole (negative to-hit, negative defense, negative damage buff, etc.) often ends in a faceplant, but feels truly epic. Very little else in the game is as insanely fun as sowing that much chaos and desperately trying to stay alive.
Its probably not very efficient as farming, but it is lots of fun!
Hazel Black - Mind/Psi D
Stephanie Winters - Nightwidow
Jacqui Frost - Cold/Ice D
Jacqui Embers - Fire/Kin C
Simone Templar - Fire/MM B
Mallory Woods - Kin/Rad D
Sanguine Melody - Grav/Sonic C
Fumina Hara - Plant/Storm C
Nutmeg - Warshade
Lauren Wu - SS/WP B
Yanno... I was wondering when someone would try something like this... one of my arcs has wall-to-wall Succubi (which can really mess with a team, but solo it's actually a little easier, tho' still not a cakewalk).
Then I ran it on MY succubi (who has both confuse and Mass Confuse) and it... got weird. 
"City of Heroes. April 27, 2004 - August 31, 2012. Obliterated not with a weapon of mass destruction, not by an all-powerful supervillain... but by a cold-hearted and cowardly corporate suck-up."
If you mass confuse a group of succubi, and then one uses confuse on another that's already confused... Who is it allowed to attack?
I'm confused...
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Yanno... I was wondering when someone would try something like this... one of my arcs has wall-to-wall Succubi (which can really mess with a team, but solo it's actually a little easier, tho' still not a cakewalk).
Then I ran it on MY succubi (who has both confuse and Mass Confuse) and it... got weird.
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So that's like wall to wall full on succubi-on-succubi action!
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The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
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Once again I find it very interesting that individuals refuse to follow Mod08's request related to ALL of these farm related issues whatever they are disguised as.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat....e=0&fpart=1
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
Cry me a river Darth! 98% of the population is farming, and the 2% cry babies like yourself wanna spout off about your superior morality by saying "I play the game how it's supposed to be played."
Dude, shut up already. Since you are in the MAJOR minority, no body wants to hear from you.
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Cry me a river Darth! 98% of the population is farming, and the 2% cry babies like yourself wanna spout off about your superior morality by saying "I play the game how it's supposed to be played."
Dude, shut up already. Since you are in the MAJOR minority, no body wants to hear from you.
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You do realize that he's been debating on the side OF the farmers right?
You mate have it all wrong and obviously are not aware of the facts. Don't try to flip the script.
I am one of the people telling anyone complaining about anyone's playstyle to [censored] and go play the game. However, "if" you do want to whine about how people play the game then go here:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat....e=0&fpart=1
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
That thread looks old. I didn't want to necro it. :-D
Besides, what other aspect of this game can only be posted in a single thread? I'd probably go post there if I wanted to whine about being pro/con farming. I'd rather just do whats fun.
I'm also looking forward to some other creative combat scenarios that are fun and could be farmed.
Freeedom
H: Victra Defile (Rad/Dark) & Hot Hits (Fire/SD)
V: Spike Cream (NW) & Crescent Wind (Nin/Storm)
Sub Hero Inc ARC: 1541
--If you don't like what I have to say, it was probably a typo you are refering to.
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Cry me a river Darth! 98% of the population is farming, and the 2% cry babies like yourself wanna spout off about your superior morality by saying "I play the game how it's supposed to be played."
Dude, shut up already. Since you are in the MAJOR minority, no body wants to hear from you.
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You do realize that he's been debating on the side OF the farmers right?
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He just has the amazing ability to seem like a self-righteous forum cop while arguing against self-righteous farming cops.
More like fed up with the self righteous anti farm crowd that was embolded to attack other players for a different playstyle than their's by a raving rant from a hot heaaded dev. 
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
Ahh...another thread where no matter what, leads a heated debate about farming issues. Guess it has ruined the forums now too. Time to nerf the forums 
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More like fed up with the self righteous anti farm crowd that was embolded to attack other players for a different playstyle than their's by a raving rant from a hot heaaded dev.
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Hey, i generally agree with you. It's just that I think that this is an interesting question that rates it's own thread. The link you keep dropping is great for the "Farming: Roxx0r or Suxx0r?" debate, but this thread really isn't about that (although we seem to be turning it into a meta version of that) and would just be lost in the noise of that thread.
If one thread can handle all discussion of a broad topic, why don't we just make a bunch of AT mega-threads and get rid of those forums?
The problem with farming threads is they tend to inevitably lead back to the farming debate. Avoid it, and the thread stays open. That may require some serious forum ninjitsu though.
/em luck
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The problem with farming threads is they tend to inevitably lead back to the farming debate. Avoid it, and the thread stays open. That may require some serious forum ninjitsu though.
/em luck
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So lets post some alternate techniques, and ignore the "Farming is ebil" people ...
maybe a Mind Control/Rad critter is better?
I'm afraid that if I post farming Techniques all my farming builds will get nerf'd.
Ignoring anyone is a mistake. You might miss something viral to your cause.
That's an interesting way to farm indeed. I'd like to see that in action.
I'm curious as to whether an MM set would be better for this than Rad Blast, maybe one that doesn't do much damage. I know the XP loss is minor from confused mobs, but just looking at what would be optimal. And if the controller is confused, pets turn on the owner. With a more AoE heavy MM set... good times and laughs.
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Weatherby_Goode - "Heck, Carrion Creepers negates the knockdown from Carrion Creepers."
With MM sets, you run risk of hitting AoE target caps much easier. You'll hit a pets for zero exp. Although, I agree they do less damage when they are not deployed.
Another type of farm I'm working on is a mix of lieut and bosses. Something I can solo plow through with my scrapper.
Was looking at indoor tech maps if possible, but having a hard time finding a map that has a straight path. Wanting to avoid the swastika symbol room if possible as its layout is annoying.
I originally wanted to fight all the high lvl robots (PPD, Council, Arachnos, Malta, Rikti?) mixed in with some custom stuff, but that failed in testing, so it went all custom. Have a few optional computer terminals to spawn AVs if I'm feeling frisky. Hopefully measure the map out so when I get to the end, I'll have 750 tickets to cap out the bonus.
I'm going to add all sorts of fun dialog to spice it up. Perhaps a massive ambush at the end.
Freeedom
H: Victra Defile (Rad/Dark) & Hot Hits (Fire/SD)
V: Spike Cream (NW) & Crescent Wind (Nin/Storm)
Sub Hero Inc ARC: 1541
--If you don't like what I have to say, it was probably a typo you are refering to.
Kinda getting sick of all these 'boss farms' going around. I decided I wanted to try something different.
I'll explain the result first...
I made an enemy group of rad/rad lieutenants (That have RI, AM, and EF), and some typical melee bosses. Normal tactics would rip anything apart with all the auto hit debuffs.
So what would turn this frown up-side-down? Seeds of Confusion.
Start off with Seeds of Confusion and Roots, and get in the middle of combat. All the lieut. will debuff each other and give you an AM buff each. With all the +DMG and -RES thrown around, you got an approx. 10 second window to lay on the AoE carnage. There won't be much exp loss from confuse because rad attacks are not really heavy hitting, and the -DMG will be overwhelming.
With all the recharge and damage buffs from AM, and debuffs, it doesn't really matter what your secondary is. Just have some AoE damage of some sort. Maybe bring a friend along. Its just key that you alpha with that Seeds of Confusion or its instant wipe. If all goes well, you can 2-3 shot the entire group extremely quickly while always having capped damage and recharge buffs.
I got this idea after thinking it was unfair that custom critters had no toggles, when many of those toggle powers were balanced by being so. Not only that, but the conversion from toggle to click, they made it auto-hit, which is really bad. Also, few people make debuff/buff critters in AE missions, and I thought that was wrong. I was thinking of a way to turn this around and make it a good thing.
I thought at first perhaps have a small team of allies at the start to help out, but allies are brainless and get themselves killed easliy, or end up doing too much damage if you try to compensate. My epiphany came from the thought that confused enemies would yield better exp as confused when compared to allies.
I look forward to the toggle issue being fixed like typical AI (Usually 1 toggle per spawn) so I can make normal custom critter groups with a variety of powers without making it really hard for the player. Until then, I have this.
Anyone else find an alternative formula to farming?
:edited for grammar - First of many probably:
Freeedom
H: Victra Defile (Rad/Dark) & Hot Hits (Fire/SD)
V: Spike Cream (NW) & Crescent Wind (Nin/Storm)
Sub Hero Inc ARC: 1541
--If you don't like what I have to say, it was probably a typo you are refering to.