best healer on villan side


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If this has been posted before I sincerely apologize.
My VG is having problems with a lack of healing. Many of us are Doms, Brutes or Stalkers.
Since I have a lvl 50 already, (Dom), I eagerly volunteered to create a pure healer type.
After searching tirelessly on the boards I havent found any AT that compares to a true healer like the Heroes Empathy. So any of you villians out there that know the answer to this, please help me out...and no, I dont want to play an MM, I'm thinking corrupter at this point.


 

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Thermal or pain domination are the secondaries you want to look at.

However, corruptors are damage dealers first. A "pure" healer type in this game is about as useful as lipstick on a pig. Take some attacks and learn to use them, or risk getting utterly bored stiff in the upper levels.


 

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Thermal or pain domination are the secondaries you want to look at.

However, corruptors are damage dealers first. A "pure" healer type in this game is about as useful as lipstick on a pig. Take some attacks and learn to use them, or risk getting utterly bored stiff in the upper levels.

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or a brute that complains about your healing and the team falls apart because I quit healing them. Ohh wait was that a little too specific?

Yeah Pain Domination is the supposed healing type for villains. I honestly like being a MM with /pd. I suggest Necromancy/PD it is fun. I havent really tried a good corr with PD, but ive seen nice things come from them as well.






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I agree that true healing is like lipstick on a pig, and as such, I was hoping to contribute to the battle as well.
On our server when you get a group together you have very little in the way of any healing and just that little extra would be a great addition to any team.
That being said, I tire of MM's very quickly having an MM that is a healing secondary sounds like a yawner to me....Send pets out, watch them kill, heal them if you need to...rinse and repeat....I'm old and frankly I would rather watch the seconds tick by on my death clock.
I was hoping a corruptor would give me the opportunity to challenge my soloing abilities as well as perform the healing duties of the VG.
I like the /pain list of skills, and dont want to play with fire anymore, 3 of my 50's are fire based. sorta hinting at the whole package here


 

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It's me. I am the best healer on villain side. Sadly, I won't be joining your VG, so it's a good thing you are stepping up to the plate. Now make a fire/dark corruptor and enjoy yourself.


 

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I have a Dark/Dark Corruptor. With Twilight Grasp 3 slotted for Accuracy (this was before Accurate Healing was available).

As I was teaming, someone else with some other kind of team heal power (this was over a year ago, I don't remember what the power was) was flabbergasted that I was doing about 3 times the amount of healing he was doing.

Add in the effect of reduced ToHit, Damage and Regeneration of our foes, this was a very effective heal at lower levels.


 

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I have a Dark/Dark Corruptor. With Twilight Grasp 3 slotted for Accuracy (this was before Accurate Healing was available).

As I was teaming, someone else with some other kind of team heal power (this was over a year ago, I don't remember what the power was) was flabbergasted that I was doing about 3 times the amount of healing he was doing.

Add in the effect of reduced ToHit, Damage and Regeneration of our foes, this was a very effective heal at lower levels.

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Yeah - both Kin and Dark Miasma's heal do about 2-3x the amount similar aoe heals from other sets do because they can miss - but they have a inherrent acc bonus and work great.

Dark is centered on the caster, Kin the target, which means if the target dies as the heal should be going off :

Dark is fine

Kin gets pretty (non-healing) special effects.


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Dark is centered on the caster, Kin the target, which means if the target dies as the heal should be going off :

Dark is fine

Kin gets pretty (non-healing) special effects.

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Every time I play my /dark corruptor and this happens, I smile a little and say out loud, "[censored] you, Kinetics!" Way too many levels of kin/


 

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Dark is centered on the caster, Kin the target, which means if the target dies as the heal should be going off :

Dark is fine

Kin gets pretty (non-healing) special effects.

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Every time I play my /dark corruptor and this happens, I smile a little and say out loud, "[censored] you, Kinetics!" Way too many levels of kin/

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Well, with the target dead, nowhere for the little healer pet to drop!

Oh, and Dark has an awesome AoE stun that doubles as an AoE rez Also easily rezzes Self Destructed allies.


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Dark is centered on the caster, Kin the target, which means if the target dies as the heal should be going off :

Dark is fine

Kin gets pretty (non-healing) special effects.

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Every time I play my /dark corruptor and this happens, I smile a little and say out loud, "[censored] you, Kinetics!" Way too many levels of kin/

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Well, with the target dead, nowhere for the little healer pet to drop!

Oh, and Dark has an awesome AoE stun that doubles as an AoE rez Also easily rezzes Self Destructed allies.

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Oooo, Howling Twilight! I love that better than Vengeance!


 

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Dark is centered on the caster, Kin the target, which means if the target dies as the heal should be going off :

Dark is fine

Kin gets pretty (non-healing) special effects.

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Every time I play my /dark corruptor and this happens, I smile a little and say out loud, "[censored] you, Kinetics!" Way too many levels of kin/

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Well, with the target dead, nowhere for the little healer pet to drop!

Oh, and Dark has an awesome AoE stun that doubles as an AoE rez Also easily rezzes Self Destructed allies.

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Oooo, Howling Twilight! I love that better than Vengeance!

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And together, it's like the still beating heart of your enemy over the icecream!

Uh, I mean, cherry! It's like have a cherry on top of your sundae!


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Dark Miasma has that one-two punch: One of the best AoE Heals in the game, and if the teammates miss the heal and die, the best and only AoE Rez in the game (full health and endurance recovery of several teammates at once plus and AoE stun of foes).


However, if you have a team that just charges in on Invincible and aren't doing their share of damage mitigation and expect a 'healer' to make up for their poor builds, poor play style, and poor tactics; don't play with them, they're doing it wrong.


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/Regen Stalkers have good heals.





...But if you want to heal other people /Thermal or /Pain Corruptor.


 

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*Gets flame retardant boxers*

Healing is for chumps!



 

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I don't play villains much so the only set I've used is thermal. I have a fire/thermal and I like it. You've got a single target heal, AoE heal, shields and buffs. I've played dark blue-side and it kicks some major butt - Shadowfall, serious debuffs and a powerful heal. Not a clue about Pain Domination.


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Wow, someone said the "H" word and the thread has not yet erupted into a series of mindless rants. There have only been a couple so far. Color me impressed.


 

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Wow, someone said the "H" word and the thread has not yet erupted into a series of mindless rants. There have only been a couple so far. Color me impressed.

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I know, I hid behind my flame shield for nothing!

Popcorn is good though, want some?


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If most of your VG is doms, brutes, and stalkers...

It's not so much that you need a healer as such, but a more support-oriented character.

Pain Domination is a good healer/buffer - that's the traditional kind of support. Pain Corr would work for your purposes.

I think Dark Miasma is a good option, though - that gets you a pretty effective AoE heal and a lot of debuffs - if your regular teammates are all damage-heavy, then having some debuffs would go well.

(Especially if you take a debuff-oriented Corr primary like Dark Blast or Sonic Blast)


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Popcorn is good though, want some?

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Yes, please.



 

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Hate pure healers , most useless thing you could do for 50 levels. In fact your dead weight and should be /kicked for not contributing.

Now onto something useful, I have a /pain and a /dark on villain side, for versatility I would choose /dark. It has a great AoE heal , loads of debuffs and -regen for AV's and fluffy to chuck into melee with your Brutes and Stalkers. He will debuff the crap out of everything and heal your melees if needed.

Basically you have 2 heals and 3 debuffs going at all time


 

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Pure healers are about as useful as petless masterminds.

If it's both at the same time... you are truly damned.