Think of it this way. Either you play through the low levels without Stamina, grinding out the same [censored] content you've hit up three dozen other times, or you grind out the same [censored] content that's slightly more epic and which appears to receive quite a bit more attention which you've only hit up a couple dozen other times, while doing it with Stamina.
In short: Maybe, just maybe, someone doesn't really see a difference between grinding low level content or burning through to the high level stuff, except less enjoyment in the former.
Besides, why on Earth do you care?
Doom.
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This is really doom.
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Would save those poor, farming, powergamin' peeps all the time and trouble of whipping through AE missions in Atlas, in their attempts to get as many toons to 50 as fast as possible in their quest to find the "perfect build". Hopefully then, these people will become extremely bored and excel at obtaining day job badges.
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The Win Game Now Button has been suggested MANY times by people, including myself. I, personally, think it would be a brilliant idea, but it will never happen. It just won't.
Lol what is fun for you maynot be fun for someone else. There is no "right" or "wrong" way to play this game as long as the person is enjoying his $15 month investment. Cant we all just get along? 
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I never had you pegged as the sort. Odd what you find out about people.
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There already is an official farming thread. Use it.
A few random answers to keep you going:
The character i REALLY want is an EAT/VEAT.
Sick of levels 1-22 after playing them a million times.
Sick of levels 1-20 because the game is too slow without stamina.
I won't be having fun until i have <Insert cool power>.
I have been playing for a hundred thousand years and am sick of normal content.
I am not into all of your lame reading and RPing and "content" junk, and just want to level and pull up Mids and make numbers dance.
I want this character for PvP only.
I am very well established on <insert server name>, and would like to quickly expand to <Insert second server name> as well.
And finally:
What the heck do you care what i do? Mind your business! :P
I worked hard for my [censored] ... and I dont even use it.
You can work hard for yours too sport.
I don't think you're visualizing my point either, nor my grand idea.
I'm actually half-way serious about letting everyone have the option to start out at level 50 (or 20 given your take on Stamina). Would save you all that trouble of being Stamina-less and you could just skip to all that epic content that's so much more favorable.
As for why on Earth do I care? I have a couple reasons. I personally don't like being asked to join my team and then quit moments later when they realize we're not in AE, grinding away. I also don't appreciate the sudden increase of emails from influence/powergaming selling service reps with their silly "asdwiegtf" names flooding my inbox. So far, my email's been one big spam pile. Which leads to another great idea: friend-only filtering for email. Please oh please.
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I never had you pegged as the sort. Odd what you find out about people.
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You misunderstand, I WOULDN'T use it, but I would be happy to have it here, because then the people that WOULD use it would get bored with the game more quickly and would LEAVE.
Yup, that's right, I just said that I wished that less people would play this game. I want higher quality teams, darn it!
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I worked hard for my [censored] ... and I dont even use it.
You can work hard for yours too sport.
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libertarianism makes even less sense in the context of a video game
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Which leads to another great idea: friend-only filtering for email. Please oh please.
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I don't think friend filtering is the key. I think allowing players to edit their own email filter; word patterns using wild cards for subject and title and/or sender would work fine for my taste.
Sorry Player, it was a misunderstanding. No harm bud.
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Would save those poor, farming, powergamin' peeps all the time and trouble of whipping through AE missions in Atlas, in their attempts to get as many toons to 50 as fast as possible in their quest to find the "perfect build". Hopefully then, these people will become extremely bored and excel at obtaining day job badges.
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Smashing idea, old boy. I'd be in favor of it just as long as each player who chose to hit that button would have a permanent gold name of WANKORZ over his/her head.
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Would save those poor, farming, powergamin' peeps all the time and trouble of whipping through AE missions in Atlas, in their attempts to get as many toons to 50 as fast as possible in their quest to find the "perfect build". Hopefully then, these people will become extremely bored and excel at obtaining day job badges.
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I've never been in favour of the "Insta-50" idea, but I have forwarded, on a number of occasions, a vet reward that allows you to start level 14-20 or thereabouts, just to get over the monotonous lowbie grind.
I still think it's a good idea, for vets who've got more than 3 or 4 years under their belt, I mean... seriously, how many damn times do I have to go to the hollows?
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Guild Wars already has this concept - although these insta characters are pvp only. The idea really does have merit as long as this pvp restriction is in place.
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Oh boy, another farming thread. How wonderfully unique and original.
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Let's just give everyone the option to start their toons off at level 50 on test server with all the ultra-rare recipes on hand!
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Fixed the quote so I would say /signed. It's been awhile since I've been on the test server, have they done this yet?
Anyways, on the live servers, definitely not.
Well, heavy farming does a valuable public service, It provides endless fodder for inane complaints by nosy parkers whose idea of big fun is constant whining about how others play, and allows some to seek that most gratifying of modern cachets: The Martyr Card, when they manage to frame a argument proving that framing does them harm in some way.
My scrapper doesn't need an AoE. She IS an AoE.
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Thats odd. I seem to see alot more whining from the farmers then the anti-farmers lately.
Fashions come and go. A week from now who knows where the pendulum will swing?
My scrapper doesn't need an AoE. She IS an AoE.
It will swing SSW.
There I was between a rock and a hard place. Then I thought, "What am I doing on this side of the rock?"
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A few random answers to keep you going:
The character i REALLY want is an EAT/VEAT.
Sick of levels 1-22 after playing them a million times.
Sick of levels 1-20 because the game is too slow without stamina.
I won't be having fun until i have <Insert cool power>.
I have been playing for a hundred thousand years and am sick of normal content.
I am not into all of your lame reading and RPing and "content" junk, and just want to level and pull up Mids and make numbers dance.
I want this character for PvP only.
I am very well established on <insert server name>, and would like to quickly expand to <Insert second server name> as well.
And finally:
What the heck do you care what i do? Mind your business! :P
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I 2nd this post and lobby for an immediate vote on the matter of people minding their own business and not worrying about how others play. 
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Predictive radiesthesia for the win!
My scrapper doesn't need an AoE. She IS an AoE.
Here's the idea:
Let's just give everyone the option to start their toons off at level 50 with all the ultra-rare recipes on hand!
Would save those poor, farming, powergamin' peeps all the time and trouble of whipping through AE missions in Atlas, in their attempts to get as many toons to 50 as fast as possible in their quest to find the "perfect build". Hopefully then, these people will become extremely bored and excel at obtaining day job badges.
Really though? Why is it that important to farm the heck outta AE? Why is it necessary to get one's toons up to level 50 as fast as humanly possible? Why is it some sort of status achievement to have a ton of level 50 toons? What is the end game for someone when they do have a ton of level 50's and the AE's smoking because they burned right through it?
I'm just slightly confused here as to what people's priorities are in terms of enjoyment and entertainment? All I am saying is perhaps one should stop and question why you think powergaming and farming makes the game anymore fun.
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