Mu's 'Footsteps Initiative' has been in HoF, but is not currently due to some people voting down anyone who gets there.
If you have not run it before, give it a go and vote for it according to your normal voting patterns, and maybe it will be again.
Personally I rated it high, and it raised a good few laughs on my first play through, your miliage may vary.
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There aren't any currently.
Mostly due to jealous people starting the arc and quitting it immediately with a 1 star rating, just to bring it down.
It's petty and small of them, but people do it all the time. A lot of people get miffed that their arc they spent a whole whopping 5 minutes throwing together with no text didn't get Hall of Fame over night. So their sense of entitlement dictates to them that if they can't get a Hall of Fame arc with no effort on their part, then the people who actually earned it don't deserve it either.
Sorry, you touched on a bit of a pet peeve of mine. I hate people who's sense of entitlement and vindictive nature lead them to sabatoge someone else's work.
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It is very sad to hear the star system is being used as a form of pvp. In all the player-generated content systems I've used before everyone was very supportive of everyone else and the true masters of the craft rose rapidly to recognition.
I'm guessing that the devs need to remove any and all rewards (except maybe tickets) from the rating system to make it more of a point of pride than anything else. They need to come up with some other way of rewarding (or better yet selling) new story slots.
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I'm guessing that the devs need to remove any and all rewards (except maybe tickets) from the rating system to make it more of a point of pride than anything else.
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I think this wouldn't remove ALL the 'griefing' (using that term loosely). And an 'olympic' style voting system too would be cool.. i.e. a certain percentage of the votes fixed (5%) would be automatically discounted both good and bad. Losing a small number of votes Best and Worst. That would give you a better idea of what people 'really' think about the mission.
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I'm guessing that the devs need to remove any and all rewards (except maybe tickets) from the rating system to make it more of a point of pride than anything else. They need to come up with some other way of rewarding (or better yet selling) new story slots.
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The best way to find "Hall of Fame" worthy arcs is to play arcs with 4 stars and 999+ ratings. Most of these would likely be HoF arcs if not for the 1-star cartels.
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I think this wouldn't remove ALL the 'griefing' (using that term loosely). And an 'olympic' style voting system too would be cool.. i.e. a certain percentage of the votes fixed (5%) would be automatically discounted both good and bad. Losing a small number of votes Best and Worst. That would give you a better idea of what people 'really' think about the mission.
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I think a weighted system might be good, where a vote from someone that hasn't finished the first mission counts for less than a person who completes the first mission, which in turn counts for less than someone who has completed the second mission, etc.
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I tried the footsteps initiative..fun but long..anything shorter??
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I think this wouldn't remove ALL the 'griefing' (using that term loosely). And an 'olympic' style voting system too would be cool.. i.e. a certain percentage of the votes fixed (5%) would be automatically discounted both good and bad. Losing a small number of votes Best and Worst. That would give you a better idea of what people 'really' think about the mission.
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I think a weighted system might be good, where a vote from someone that hasn't finished the first mission counts for less than a person who completes the first mission, which in turn counts for less than someone who has completed the second mission, etc.
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This is actually a good variation on an idea I've been against.
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I think this wouldn't remove ALL the 'griefing' (using that term loosely). And an 'olympic' style voting system too would be cool.. i.e. a certain percentage of the votes fixed (5%) would be automatically discounted both good and bad. Losing a small number of votes Best and Worst. That would give you a better idea of what people 'really' think about the mission.
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I think a weighted system might be good, where a vote from someone that hasn't finished the first mission counts for less than a person who completes the first mission, which in turn counts for less than someone who has completed the second mission, etc.
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This is actually a good variation on an idea I've been against.
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My only problem with that is that if the first mission really does suck, and people leave after the first mission, and rate it as a truly bad arc, then their vote will weigh less than the creator's friends who finish it just to be nice.
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Probably not. It's hard enough telling a good story in 5 missions with the file size limit. It's near impossible to get a solid story in less than 3. Most people who are going to put the effort into a good story (HoF worthy) aren't going to try and make one that's super short at the same time.
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I think this wouldn't remove ALL the 'griefing' (using that term loosely). And an 'olympic' style voting system too would be cool.. i.e. a certain percentage of the votes fixed (5%) would be automatically discounted both good and bad. Losing a small number of votes Best and Worst. That would give you a better idea of what people 'really' think about the mission.
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I think a weighted system might be good, where a vote from someone that hasn't finished the first mission counts for less than a person who completes the first mission, which in turn counts for less than someone who has completed the second mission, etc.
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My only problem with that is that if the first mission really does suck, and people leave after the first mission, and rate it as a truly bad arc, then their vote will weigh less than the creator's friends who finish it just to be nice.
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Five-Star Folks (FSF) are neither evil, nor exploiting anything. FSF are utilizing the rating system as it was designed, gaining nothing extra from it. They're just gaming it, which is not against the rules.
There *IS* a problem with Zero-Star Folks (ZSF, including One-Star Folks, OSF), regardless of what you think. They, however, are not exploiting anything, just like the FSF aren't. They're just gaming the system.
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Lots of folks new a straight up or down voting system with only human minders monitoring potential problems, that most issues would become entrenched and allow easy "gaming" of the system. If they had coded in to apply a kind of diminishing returns and other code based measures to curb overly harsh or overly lenient raters, then the system would have a lot more use and meaning, and Hall of Fame would be worth achieving.
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Do you think there will be less griefing and more HoF arcs now that the HoF badge is going away?
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Five-Star Folks (FSF) are neither evil, nor exploiting anything. FSF are utilizing the rating system as it was designed, gaining nothing extra from it. They're just gaming it, which is not against the rules.
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I was refering to the fact that Positron BLATANTLY called out 5 Star Cartels, but NEVER mentioned the 1 and 0 Star Cartels.
However, it's a moot point, as with I15, 99% of the MA badges will be removed. Sadly, we'll be losing some good badge names, like Pressed The Red Button. 
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What's the difference between a false 5star and a false 1star? Either way it's a mirepresentation of what's in the arc... I'd rather have someone play my arc, and give me 2 stars because they didn't like it than someone on my friend's list giving me 5 stars cause I asked them to, but the arc really blows...
If you are going to use a percentage at least use an accurate one, 99% of the badges are not going away.
24 will remain, out of 118, which is about 20% are remaining
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There aren't any currently.
Mostly due to jealous people starting the arc and quitting it immediately with a 1 star rating, just to bring it down.
It's petty and small of them, but people do it all the time. A lot of people get miffed that their arc they spent a whole whopping 5 minutes throwing together with no text didn't get Hall of Fame over night. So their sense of entitlement dictates to them that if they can't get a Hall of Fame arc with no effort on their part, then the people who actually earned it don't deserve it either.
Sorry, you touched on a bit of a pet peeve of mine. I hate people who's sense of entitlement and vindictive nature lead them to sabatoge someone else's work.
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Heh, same thing with forum threads. I have seen a thread that had 2 posts in it and it had a one star. The thread wasnt anything really, bad or good, but someone is going around just cliking the one star button on threads, and MA arcs...goofballs.
If you want to find half of fame arcs just look for an arc that is 2 or 3 stars. Since hall of fame is 5 stars then half of fame would be 2.5 stars.
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Here is how I would fix the AE system. Regular drops for all AE critters, no tickets, and no chance of rare or super rare. ONly "real" missions get any chance at UBER stuff.
Exception, Tickets are for designers, not players. You can still level, but pointless to farm. And rewards go to good content, not farming missions. and get rid of "zero" stars
I would like to know any half of fame ae mission or id.. I've been looking and I couldnt found one. Please If you know any, let me know. Thank you