OK, do more base damage...what about Domination?

So perma-dom is not needed to ensure extra damage...but what will domination do now?

Same as before? Protect against status effects and increase the mags of our controls?

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Night Goblin 35 lvl BS/Regen Scrapper
Slag Heap 38 lvl Fire/Axe Tanker
Energy Anomoly 23 lvl Energy/Energy Blaster

I love how people are making such a huge beat-up of stuff that has been mentioned by a redname that's available in the developer digest.

Base damage change. No damage buff from domination. Can't be that hard to find what Castle said in the one thread he's commented in, surely?

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Mez protection, Extra magnitude, Added Mez Duration, Free end bar refill.

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In pvp, squat.

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So perma-dom is not needed to ensure extra damage...but what will domination do now?

Same as before? Protect against status effects and increase the mags of our controls?

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Ah, link please, I mustuv missed this

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So perma-dom is not needed to ensure extra damage...but what will domination do now?

Same as before? Protect against status effects and increase the mags of our controls?

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Ah, link please, I mustuv missed this

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Castle has posted in the Issue 15 Dom Buffs thread, here among other places.

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Specifics will have to wait for the Training Room. The gist of it lies with removing the Damage Bonus from Domination, and adding that to the Base Damage values for the AT. There are other things going into it, but that's the major change.

Something like this:

<font class="small">Code:[/color]<hr /><pre>
Difference @ lvl 20 Old Old+Dom New
Bonesmasher 52.72 78.91 88.21 Assuming 51% increase from Enhancements
Power Bolt 27.86 41.70 40.72 Assuming 51% increase from Enhancements
Difference @ lvl 50
Bonesmasher 134.07 185.37 224.31 Assuming 96% increase from Enhancements
Power Bolt 70.85 97.96 103.55 Assuming 96% increase from Enhancements
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So perma-dom is not needed to ensure extra damage...but what will domination do now?

Same as before? Protect against status effects and increase the mags of our controls?

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Ah, link please, I mustuv missed this

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Castle has posted in the Issue 15 Dom Buffs thread, here among other places.

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Specifics will have to wait for the Training Room. The gist of it lies with removing the Damage Bonus from Domination, and adding that to the Base Damage values for the AT. There are other things going into it, but that's the major change.

Something like this:

<font class="small">Code:[/color]<hr /><pre>
Difference @ lvl 20 Old Old+Dom New
Bonesmasher 52.72 78.91 88.21 Assuming 51% increase from Enhancements
Power Bolt 27.86 41.70 40.72 Assuming 51% increase from Enhancements
Difference @ lvl 50
Bonesmasher 134.07 185.37 224.31 Assuming 96% increase from Enhancements
Power Bolt 70.85 97.96 103.55 Assuming 96% increase from Enhancements
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Note that Bonesmasher's damage doesn't line up correctly with the Damage Scalar increase, because Castle's modifying /EA independently.

The old:new damage on Bonesmasher would indicate that Melee was buffed from 0.75 to 1.25 when in reality it got buffed to 1.05.

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I wouldn't be surprised if they put a damage debuff on Domination (down to dominators w/o domination right now, or so). Then, you can choose to be control-o-matic w/ bonuses by hitting the bubbly button or just damage it up.

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Sermon
@sermon
One of Six, Cannibal 6

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I wouldn't be surprised if they put a damage debuff on Domination (down to dominators w/o domination right now, or so). Then, you can choose to be control-o-matic w/ bonuses by hitting the bubbly button or just damage it up.

[/ QUOTE ]You think that might get mentioned, right?

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Castle has stated that the damage buff was only one of the upcoming changes.

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Sermon
@sermon
One of Six, Cannibal 6

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Castle has stated that the damage buff was only one of the upcoming changes.

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I am ready for Dominator Invasion in I15!!! Much like what Castle did to Stalker. I see Stalkers everywhere now!

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What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

if ya see them, they aren't good ones :P

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Castle has stated that the damage buff was only one of the upcoming changes.

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Yea, but If I remember correctly, he said the buff to base damage was the major change.

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Castle has stated that the damage buff was only one of the upcoming changes.

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Yea, but If I remember correctly, he said the buff to base damage was the major change.

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And besides, do you really think he would plan on giving us both a major buff and a major drawback and then only tell us about the buff?

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Yea, otherwise the general population will turn to violent protests!!

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Night Goblin 35 lvl BS/Regen Scrapper
Slag Heap 38 lvl Fire/Axe Tanker
Energy Anomoly 23 lvl Energy/Energy Blaster

What general population?

There are like, ten people who play doms. Half the posts on this forum are me and the other half are Liliaceae.

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What is it the kids say these days....

Obvious hyperbole is obvious?

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What general population?

There are like, ten people who play doms. Half the posts on this forum are me and the other half are Liliaceae.

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Am I one of the ten? or did you miss me and we are at 11?

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I wouldn't be surprised if they put a damage debuff on Domination (down to dominators w/o domination right now, or so). Then, you can choose to be control-o-matic w/ bonuses by hitting the bubbly button or just damage it up.

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This was actually a suggestion Castle made quite some time ago. Since he has removed the damage debuff from Domination, I'd say he decided to drop that. Probably because a lot of Dom players (myself included) said that they would rather go from weaker to stronger than from weak one way to weak another way.

It wasn't that it was a bad idea to go from weak to strong, it's just apparently Castle feels the shift was just too great. And I have to agree, 75% is a pretty big damage boost.

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Am I one of the ten? or did you miss me and we are at 11?

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I've played mine off and on since launch. Does that make me 12?

If I understand the suggested changes (and I'm not saying I do), I'm in favor of them.

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There are like, ten people who play doms. Half the posts on this forum are me and the other half are Liliaceae.

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I'd suggest cleaning out your ignore list, but you're not missing much.

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Am I one of the ten? or did you miss me and we are at 11?

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I've played mine off and on since launch. Does that make me 12?

If I understand the suggested changes (and I'm not saying I do), I'm in favor of them.

[/ QUOTE ]That's what I saw in it.

Dominator damage will now be a higher baseline all the time (baseline as in before enchancements/Aim/FE/SD), and without Domination sucking up potential damage buffs, the loss of ~12% damage from double-dom will really not mean much since you'll actually have room for more damage buffs to come in, instead of double-dom and enhancers eating up all but 50% of your damage buff cap.

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Apostrophe guidelines.

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There are like, ten people who play doms. Half the posts on this forum are me and the other half are Liliaceae.

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I'd suggest cleaning out your ignore list, but you're not missing much.

[/ QUOTE ]So I can watch false data and false emotions clash against false reasoning? I can imagine the appeal but I find it much better to just stop paying heed to the children and try to offer help to those people who actually want it.

You should start a thread about nerfing seeds.

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Good idea, only the /Psi users are upset, let's get the rest of them.

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What general population?

There are like, ten people who play doms. Half the posts on this forum are me and the other half are Liliaceae.

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Am I one of the ten? or did you miss me and we are at 11?

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(raises hand) must be 12 by now.

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