Add On Question
No. CoH does not support addons.
Third party addons would be of two different types: Modification of the client (which is not allowed) or putting replacement files in the appropriate directory so that custom textures/sounds/fonts are loaded instead of the default ones (Allowed, but not supported by NCsoft - if you can't figure it out, ask players or you're on your own).
@Roderick
None approved but I use
- Vidiot Maps (Puts badge locations etc on map)
- herostats (tracks powers and xp per min)
- Glycerine (Tracks badges on city inof tracker)
- Mids hero planner (character design tool)
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None approved but I use
- Vidiot Maps (Puts badge locations etc on map)
- herostats (tracks powers and xp per min)
- Glycerine (Tracks badges on city inof tracker)
- Mids hero planner (character design tool)
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I'd classify these products as "Tolerated" Well..the first three. Mids really doesn't interact with the game at all.
The ones listed above are technically against the EULA, I think, but the devs turn a blind eye to them because they're helpful to players and quite well made.
Man.... that's kinda silly... CoX should encourage Third Party Add-Ons like Blizzard does for their games... Get some standard policy and such as to what can and can't be changed, etc...
Ah well.. I'll take a look at what's what, and see what I can figure out
Why would CoX want that? City of Heroes is quality, we are the classy folk, that -other- game, I spit on them.
*sigh* That "other" game, has been around just as long as CoX, and has nearly 10 times the player base... BUT I am seriously not here to compare games... Trust me, CoX is my first MMO, and is still... BY FAR my favorite, and I've played SO many ranging from MXO to Anarchy Online to SWG to many many free ones, and I always come back here.
Now, that being said, I'm saying that us "classy" folk could use small add-ons now and then. Stuff like Buff timers, and Heal warnings would be useful, and probably wouldn't be too invasive.
Don't get me wrong, CoX has done a wonderful job of having a quality, beautiful, almost flawless HuD, but it could do with some tweaking here and there...
What do you want an add-on to do for you?
In other words, what kind of add-on do you think would be helpful or necessary over and above those they tolerate (Vidiot Maps, et al) and the game's own UI?
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Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
"You gave us a world where we could fly. I can't thank you enough for that."
Honestly, for my main.... A Buff Timer. I was in an AE Mission, and I was getting pretty peeved that whenever I looked at the party's buffs (which I did every 3-5 minutes or so) my bubbles were gone...
My main is a 37 Force Field/Energy Blast defender... (yes... I know... OMG I don't have a 50... let's just say that I never had the amount of time I do now, and I haven't been able to level before) and I really hate it when my party is left defenseless because my buffs have run out, and I didn't notice because we're in the heat of combat, and I need more screenspace than the 70 buffs that my party has on them will allow.
They already have that via Hero Stats, the buff timers that is. There are a lot of, not really what we call add-ons, but mods and utilities.
Hero Stats (Has that buff timer in the Overlay mode)
Vidiotmaps (Got to have this)
Glycerine
Vanden's Icon Pack (I love this one)
Mid's
The Hero Builder
CoH Splasher (Can mod a bunch of stuff, but it isn't against EULA because it isn't viewing or modifying the actual files it just basically redirects the game to other files)
There is more but I'm brain dead in the morning. But all these are available, though none officially approved by NCSoft or the Devs.
Herostats.
Also, if the buff icons are taking too much space - are they from duplicates? Right click, pick "Numeric stacking."
Oh... Thank you for that, I'll search out this "Herostats" immediately.
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Oh... Thank you for that, I'll search out this "Herostats" immediately.
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Glad to hear it - I was hoping we could get you the same effect you wanted from an add-on with what we already had.
Altoholic - but a Blaster at Heart!
Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
"You gave us a world where we could fly. I can't thank you enough for that."
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Oh... Thank you for that, I'll search out this "Herostats" immediately.
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Glad to hear it - I was hoping we could get you the same effect you wanted from an add-on with what we already had.
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One of these days I will need to load up herostats...
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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Man.... that's kinda silly... CoX should encourage Third Party Add-Ons like Blizzard does for their games... Get some standard policy and such as to what can and can't be changed, etc...
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Right now the "add ons" like Hero Stats work by poking around in the game's process memory, which is not only potentially a EULA problem as one could theoretically cheat this way, but can cause stability issues if they're not careful about it.
The map / icon packs just dump some extra texture files in the game's directory, which the game loads and uses instead of its own. Whether this mechanism was intended to enable end-user overrides, or is just an internal debugging feature I don't know. I use a similar method to remove the "power still recharging" sound since I like to queue things up and it was driving my friend crazy
If they were to encourage add-ons, they'd have to come up with an official API for doing it, which would be a large amount of development work as it would mean not only creating a new API from scratch, but testing it as well as making sure that it can't do anything that enables exploits, cheats / unfair advantages, unattended botting, etc.
It was a bit easier for Blizzard to do it since their in-game UI was written in a scripting language to begin with, but since in CoH it's all native code they'd basically be starting from scratch. As much as I'd like to see it happen I just don't think it's feasible this late into it.
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Man.... that's kinda silly... CoX should encourage Third Party Add-Ons like Blizzard does for their games... Get some standard policy and such as to what can and can't be changed, etc...
Ah well.. I'll take a look at what's what, and see what I can figure out
[/ QUOTE ] I can't help but notice that there have been some add-on programs in other games designed to steal your password in the background or be harmful in some other way as well. Maybe they don't want to take the risk of being liable if somebody downloads harmful software that they "supported".
Even if the Devs did what MTS suggested and spent time evaluating any of the long-trusted programs that we already use and posted a link on the official site, a password stealer or cheat could still be worked into any new version at any given time, and nobody would ever know until it was too late. Who would be liable for that? Who would have to clean up the mess?
Saying they don't support anything at all is just the safer way to go. It doesn't mean they are going to go out of their way to punish you for using them.. unless they find out something is being exploited too much and put in code to detect certain software or scripts. It's been done several times in other games. You are at your own risk either way.
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The ones listed above are technically against the EULA, I think, but the devs turn a blind eye to them because they're helpful to players and quite well made.
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The only one that violates the EULA in that grouping is Vidiotmaps, as I recall. Only it modifies the client (through the addition of files. It is a modification, you do change the end result [game client] even though to undo all you have to do is delete the additional files). But Vidiotmaps has always seemed to get a wink from the developers.
Glycerin, IIRC, uses Herostats.
Herostats, last I checked, reads the chat log. And provides an overlay - but so can steam. IT doesn't change the game - nothing illegal there.
And mids is a planner. Only Marvel would have issue with it.
Also there is Vaden's Icon fix - which you can grab from either the titan network or vidiot maps - can't recall which.
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Man.... that's kinda silly... CoX should encourage Third Party Add-Ons like Blizzard does for their games... Get some standard policy and such as to what can and can't be changed, etc...
Ah well.. I'll take a look at what's what, and see what I can figure out
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And then have to deal with any and all issues that arise. By not allowing them, it simplifies CS immensely.
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Links to add-ons and customizations
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The ones listed above are technically against the EULA, I think, but the devs turn a blind eye to them because they're helpful to players and quite well made.
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The only one that violates the EULA in that grouping is Vidiotmaps, as I recall. Only it modifies the client (through the addition of files. It is a modification, you do change the end result [game client] even though to undo all you have to do is delete the additional files). But Vidiotmaps has always seemed to get a wink from the developers.
Glycerin, IIRC, uses Herostats.
Herostats, last I checked, reads the chat log. And provides an overlay - but so can steam. IT doesn't change the game - nothing illegal there.
And mids is a planner. Only Marvel would have issue with it.
Also there is Vaden's Icon fix - which you can grab from either the titan network or vidiot maps - can't recall which.
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the Vidiotmaps pack does the same thing as Vaden's icon fix pack, it adds files to a directory that are read instead of the normal game files, which is a normal function of the game. The use of the pack doesn't violate the EULA. The way they got the maps to make the pack, however, does.
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Links to add-ons and customizations
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The ones listed above are technically against the EULA, I think, but the devs turn a blind eye to them because they're helpful to players and quite well made.
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The only one that violates the EULA in that grouping is Vidiotmaps, as I recall. Only it modifies the client (through the addition of files. It is a modification, you do change the end result [game client] even though to undo all you have to do is delete the additional files). But Vidiotmaps has always seemed to get a wink from the developers.
Glycerin, IIRC, uses Herostats.
Herostats, last I checked, reads the chat log. And provides an overlay - but so can steam. IT doesn't change the game - nothing illegal there.
And mids is a planner. Only Marvel would have issue with it.
Also there is Vaden's Icon fix - which you can grab from either the titan network or vidiot maps - can't recall which.
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the Vidiotmaps pack does the same thing as Vaden's icon fix pack, it adds files to a directory that are read instead of the normal game files, which is a normal function of the game. The use of the pack doesn't violate the EULA. The way they got the maps to make the pack, however, does.
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Oh, I know Vaden's pack works just like vidiotmaps. Just throwing it out there
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In fact, that *other* game (since we are being coy) has NOT been around for as long as COX. COX, or to be more precise, COH made its debut in April of 2004. That *other* game went live in November of 2004. COX has a good six to seven months on that *other* game.
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The use of the pack doesn't violate the EULA. The way they got the maps to make the pack, however, does.
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Are you sure? I could get the base maps without violating the EULA.
Yes, if they got it via pigg-diving, it's a no-no. But if they mapped in the whole zone, turned off map icons, and resized the map as large as it allowed, then took screenshots, there's no EULA violation. Unless the developers of the map packs step forward and say how they did it, there's no proof of a foul.
@Roderick
Are there any NCSoft approved Add Ons for City of Heroes?