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QFT and QFE and QFSomeOtherThing!!
(Based on my limited programming experience, even the most dedicated error handling code, does, itself have issue!)
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The developers can read my posts. I think that gives me an advantage to be heard; coherent sentences, and whatnot.
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[translating]Have to... Except the packs. Only got the ones worth anything. Even though they was post to stop putting those out after the wedding pack but hey what ever. I have done alot to. And i would rather someone use AE to power lv like crazy. Then have those bugs.It aint game crashing but they was right on that. Yet bugs that have been here since day one they can't six. Protector bots pop out seekers and get stuck on em. so you have to have recall are something b/c if you dont you got to resummon. yet that aint fixed. I would rather game be improved then worry about someone enjoying the game the way they want [/translating]
I have too, except that I didn't buy all of the packs (I only got the ones I thought were worth anything). Even though they were supposed to stop putting those out after the wedding pack; hey, whatever. I have done a lot too.
I would rather see someone use the AE to PL like crazy, than have those bugs that I mentioned earlier. [The PLing] isn't game crashing (but [the devs] were right to fix it). And yet some bugs have been here since Issue 0; they can't fix those?
Protector Bots summon Seeker Drones and get stuck on 'em. So, you have to have Teleport or something b/c if you don't you have to resummon. That isn't fixed. I would rather have a game be improved than to worry about someone enjoying the game the way they want to.
if you want a bug free game, g oplay some board games. or PnP games even. those are completely bug free and you can make your own rules as you see fit. of course you WILL be playing those board games and PnP games alone because those do have rules that can NOT be changed and peeps won't play with youe rules that will change every 30 secs or so.
Even those have nasty exploits.
Dawncaller - The Circle of Dawn
Too many blasted alts to list, but all on Virtue.
true, but at least he would only have to ban himself for using them. 
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I want a bug free game. I pay for it and things should be fixed.
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We want a Brewha free game. We pay as well. So heres a compromise. You give us what we want, and we'll get rid of the bugs. That way everyones happy.
If you don't want to compromise then you'll just have to put up with the bugs.
I'd go into the standard explanation on how it's not as simple as "Press X to fix Bug Y" and there's a great deal of work to be done to figure out just why Bug Y is occurring and resolving it without causing Bugs A, B and C in the process, but somehow I think that'd go right over his head.
Iscariot's Guide to the Tri-Form Warshade, version 2.1
I'm sorry that math > your paranoid delusions, but them's the breaks -- Nethergoat
P.E.R.C. Rep for Liberty server
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I'd go into the standard explanation on how it's not as simple as "Press X to fix Bug Y" and there's a great deal of work to be done to figure out just why Bug Y is occurring and resolving it without causing Bugs A, B and C in the process, but somehow I think that'd go right over his head.
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Hi! Welcome to the S&I forums!
Touché.
Iscariot's Guide to the Tri-Form Warshade, version 2.1
I'm sorry that math > your paranoid delusions, but them's the breaks -- Nethergoat
P.E.R.C. Rep for Liberty server
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Why is it that posts or paragraphs that begin this way are (when not intended humorously) of such universally low quality?
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Have you fought Hero Hvy? The hold does not wear off. Are Hvy dont got that. We do good in melee but so does yours. Trust me enough vills have sent petitions that it would have been nerfed
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Longbow Heavy powers:
Air Bomb
Energy Barrage
Grenade
Plasma Blast
Resistances
Seeker Drones
Tear Gas -> This is the hold
The tear gas power summons a 'tear gas grenade' psuedo pet which sets an 11.92 second Magnitude 2 hold
The recharge on the power is 16 seconds, and I have no idea if the AI cycles to it as a priority whenevr it is recharged.
With an animation of 0.5 seconds the MAXIMUM proportion being held is 11.92/16.5, or about 72% of the time, in practice much less.
The arachnos Heavy has Web Coccoon with is also a ranged hold, but I don't have the exact data, but from experience it cycles similarly.
So in summary:
#1 its not a perma hold
#2 The arachnos heavy has a hold (which is broadly similar but may vary in the exact details)
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Have you fought Hero Hvy? The hold does not wear off. Are Hvy dont got that. We do good in melee but so does yours. Trust me enough vills have sent petitions that it would have been nerfed
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Longbow Heavy powers:
Air Bomb
Energy Barrage
Grenade
Plasma Blast
Resistances
Seeker Drones
Tear Gas -> This is the hold
The tear gas power summons a 'tear gas grenade' psuedo pet which sets an 11.92 second Magnitude 2 hold
The recharge on the power is 16 seconds, and I have no idea if the AI cycles to it as a priority whenevr it is recharged.
With an animation of 0.5 seconds the MAXIMUM proportion being held is 11.92/16.5, or about 72% of the time, in practice much less.
The arachnos Heavy has Web Coccoon with is also a ranged hold, but I don't have the exact data, but from experience it cycles similarly.
So in summary:
#1 its not a perma hold
#2 The arachnos heavy has a hold (which is broadly similar but may vary in the exact details)
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11 secs you say. mag 2 hold. Thats one strong mag 2 hold. It holds a willpower on 1st hit. And in pvp 11 secs might as well be perma. You can die in 11 secs. Unless you are a tank. Maybe some brutes and MM's. Outside of that you are dead.
[@Brewha] [Lv50-Necro/Dark][Lv50-Spines/SR][Lv50-Thug/Dark][Lv50-Martial arts/Shield] [Lv50-Sonic/Storm][Lv50-Rad/Rad][Lv50-War Mace/Granite][Lv50-Ice/Pain][Lv50-Fire/Psi] [Lv50-SS/Fire][Lv50-Granite/Energy][Lv50-Fort.][Lv50-Earth/Elec][Lv50-AR/Thermal] [Lv50-Energy/Will][Lv50-Energy/Kin][Lv50-Ninja Blade/Dark][Lv50-Crab][Lv50-Fire/Energy] [Lv50-Empathy/Energy][Lv50-Cold/Archery]
Pssssssst! Magnitude means absolutely NOTHING in PvP now! All control effects land all the time. Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!
The More you Know.
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Pssssssst! Magnitude means absolutely NOTHING in PvP now! All control effects land all the time. Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!
The More you Know.
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Point is the holds should not last that long. Not so much that i can be held. But to be held that long in PvP is a death ticket
[@Brewha] [Lv50-Necro/Dark][Lv50-Spines/SR][Lv50-Thug/Dark][Lv50-Martial arts/Shield] [Lv50-Sonic/Storm][Lv50-Rad/Rad][Lv50-War Mace/Granite][Lv50-Ice/Pain][Lv50-Fire/Psi] [Lv50-SS/Fire][Lv50-Granite/Energy][Lv50-Fort.][Lv50-Earth/Elec][Lv50-AR/Thermal] [Lv50-Energy/Will][Lv50-Energy/Kin][Lv50-Ninja Blade/Dark][Lv50-Crab][Lv50-Fire/Energy] [Lv50-Empathy/Energy][Lv50-Cold/Archery]
Which is why she said:
"Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
So when you have a high resistance to Holds (through Mezz Protection), "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
This way, that ~11 second hold is reduced, because "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
So if you have a 65% resistance to Holds, and are hit by an 11 second hold, "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!" to 3.85 seconds.
This is because "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
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Which is why she said:
"Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
So when you have a high resistance to Holds (through Mezz Protection), "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
This way, that ~11 second hold is reduced, because "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
So if you have a 65% resistance to Holds, and are hit by an 11 second hold, "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!" to 3.85 seconds.
This is because "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
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I use a Willpower and its one of the highest res's to mez you can get. And that Hold is still way to long. It needs to drop to at least 7 sec hold
[@Brewha] [Lv50-Necro/Dark][Lv50-Spines/SR][Lv50-Thug/Dark][Lv50-Martial arts/Shield] [Lv50-Sonic/Storm][Lv50-Rad/Rad][Lv50-War Mace/Granite][Lv50-Ice/Pain][Lv50-Fire/Psi] [Lv50-SS/Fire][Lv50-Granite/Energy][Lv50-Fort.][Lv50-Earth/Elec][Lv50-AR/Thermal] [Lv50-Energy/Will][Lv50-Energy/Kin][Lv50-Ninja Blade/Dark][Lv50-Crab][Lv50-Fire/Energy] [Lv50-Empathy/Energy][Lv50-Cold/Archery]
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Which is why she said:
"Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
So when you have a high resistance to Holds (through Mezz Protection), "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
This way, that ~11 second hold is reduced, because "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
So if you have a 65% resistance to Holds, and are hit by an 11 second hold, "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!" to 3.85 seconds.
This is because "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
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I use a Willpower and its one of the highest res's to mez you can get. And that Hold is still way to long. It needs to drop to at least 7 sec hold
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Which is why she said:
"Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
So when you have a high resistance to Holds (through Mezz Protection), "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
This way, that ~11 second hold is reduced, because "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
So if you have a 65% resistance to Holds, and are hit by an 11 second hold, "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!" to 3.85 seconds.
This is because "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
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I use a Willpower and its one of the highest res's to mez you can get. And that Hold is still way to long. It needs to drop to at least 7 sec hold
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Look numbers are a bunch of BS i care less about. Numbers mean nothing if you can't play the toon. And when a Hero won't leave from beside a HVY b/c they know it is OP. Then there is something wrong. And i know from playing the toon. That hold needs to be toned down.
[@Brewha] [Lv50-Necro/Dark][Lv50-Spines/SR][Lv50-Thug/Dark][Lv50-Martial arts/Shield] [Lv50-Sonic/Storm][Lv50-Rad/Rad][Lv50-War Mace/Granite][Lv50-Ice/Pain][Lv50-Fire/Psi] [Lv50-SS/Fire][Lv50-Granite/Energy][Lv50-Fort.][Lv50-Earth/Elec][Lv50-AR/Thermal] [Lv50-Energy/Will][Lv50-Energy/Kin][Lv50-Ninja Blade/Dark][Lv50-Crab][Lv50-Fire/Energy] [Lv50-Empathy/Energy][Lv50-Cold/Archery]
So... why don't you get a Heavy and send it after the Hero? Or it's Heavy to distract it while you fight the Hero?
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Which is why she said:
"Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
So when you have a high resistance to Holds (through Mezz Protection), "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
This way, that ~11 second hold is reduced, because "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
So if you have a 65% resistance to Holds, and are hit by an 11 second hold, "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!" to 3.85 seconds.
This is because "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
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I use a Willpower and its one of the highest res's to mez you can get. And that Hold is still way to long. It needs to drop to at least 7 sec hold
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Look numbers are a bunch of BS i care less about. Numbers mean nothing if you can't play the toon. And when a Hero won't leave from beside a HVY b/c they know it is OP. Then there is something wrong. And i know from playing the toon. That hold needs to be toned down.
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Translation: I can't beat everyone. The game should work for me.
Long story short? It shouldn't.
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Which is why she said:
"Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
So when you have a high resistance to Holds (through Mezz Protection), "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
This way, that ~11 second hold is reduced, because "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
So if you have a 65% resistance to Holds, and are hit by an 11 second hold, "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!" to 3.85 seconds.
This is because "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
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I use a Willpower and its one of the highest res's to mez you can get. And that Hold is still way to long. It needs to drop to at least 7 sec hold
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Look numbers are a bunch of BS i care less about. Numbers mean nothing if you can't play the toon. And when a Hero won't leave from beside a HVY b/c they know it is OP. Then there is something wrong. And i know from playing the toon. That hold needs to be toned down.
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Translation: I can't beat everyone. The game should work for me.
Long story short? It shouldn't.
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I still win. But if they aint giving a hvy the same length hold. Then it sould be brung down to are hvys length. Are Hvy ain't holding someone that long and if it did heroes would have alrdy had it nerfed
[@Brewha] [Lv50-Necro/Dark][Lv50-Spines/SR][Lv50-Thug/Dark][Lv50-Martial arts/Shield] [Lv50-Sonic/Storm][Lv50-Rad/Rad][Lv50-War Mace/Granite][Lv50-Ice/Pain][Lv50-Fire/Psi] [Lv50-SS/Fire][Lv50-Granite/Energy][Lv50-Fort.][Lv50-Earth/Elec][Lv50-AR/Thermal] [Lv50-Energy/Will][Lv50-Energy/Kin][Lv50-Ninja Blade/Dark][Lv50-Crab][Lv50-Fire/Energy] [Lv50-Empathy/Energy][Lv50-Cold/Archery]
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Which is why she said:
"Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
So when you have a high resistance to Holds (through Mezz Protection), "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
This way, that ~11 second hold is reduced, because "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
So if you have a 65% resistance to Holds, and are hit by an 11 second hold, "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!" to 3.85 seconds.
This is because "Your RESISTANCE shortens the duration!"
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I use a Willpower and its one of the highest res's to mez you can get. And that Hold is still way to long. It needs to drop to at least 7 sec hold
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Look numbers are a bunch of BS i care less about. Numbers mean nothing if you can't play the toon. And when a Hero won't leave from beside a HVY b/c they know it is OP. Then there is something wrong. And i know from playing the toon. That hold needs to be toned down.
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Translation: I can't beat everyone. The game should work for me.
Long story short? It shouldn't.
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I still win. But if they aint giving a hvy the same length hold. Then it sould be brung down to are hvys length. Are Hvy ain't holding someone that long and if it did heroes would have alrdy had it nerfed
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I got past 'I still win.' and then tried to decipher the rest of that garbage, but found better luck looking through hieroglyphics.
Either case, I don't think you do. Because you're whining so very much, like a kid who just had his shiny, red ball taken from him.
I still don't get how Brewha doesn't get that are =/= or =/= our.
It's been pointed out to him many times, and he should have learned it in school, but he continues to use 'are' for all three.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson
"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
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I want a bug free game.
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Doesn't exist.
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Maybe, But issues like that could be fixed.
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I pay for the game, too. I want OTHER bugs fix. Bugs you don't care about. I've also purchased all of the booster packs, have bought extended periods of time, and have participated in a lot of open-beta stuff to the best of my abilities.
I'm not bragging, I'm looking to make a point. Between us, who are the developers going to try to please?
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Have to... Except the packs. Only got the ones worth anything. Even though they was post to stop putting those out after the wedding pack but hey what ever. I have done alot to. And i would rather someone use AE to power lv like crazy. Then have those bugs.It aint game crashing but they was right on that. Yet bugs that have been here since day one they can't six. Protector bots pop out seekers and get stuck on em. so you have to have recall are something b/c if you dont you got to resummon. yet that aint fixed. I would rather game be improved then worry about someone enjoying the game the way they want
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Also: The developers can read my posts. I think that gives me an advantage to be heard; coherent sentences, and whatnot.