I look foward to the many lulz over the year. Welcome Back... AND THANKS FOR THE MONEY SUCKAH!
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Because they don't want you to play the game the way you want to, they want you to play the game the way THEY want to...it's THEIR game.
Would you just leave already? Follow your friends to whatever other game they're playing. You hate it here, we get it.
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Sorry but i payed my year and i am here till next renew. So how about the one that want it all nerfed leave. Heres a idea.. Buff the game
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Play better.
Move your toons.
Powerleveling is STUPID and I'm glad that the devs moved to stop it.
There is no such thing as a 1-22 grind. I can level SOLO 1-22 in perhaps 3 days. Whatever it is that you and your friends are doing to produce a "grind" out of reading fun starter stories and moving through the great game background, I don't even want to know. You're missing a treat.
If you can pay for a year (like I did, on one account, the others I have had in the past are all dead except last week's freevac) then you can save up the ten bucks and move your character.
Stop crying. Play the game, or stop playing the game, and do something else.
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8man team vs4 man team
8 man team
more xp and drops and money
4 man team
less xp and drops and money
Hope i kept it simple enough for you to figure out. But still look like you might have a prob.
Lower population means less teams. Which means less of it all.
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Um... If there are even 8 people on a zone, that's a full team.
How is this different from any other team on any other server with more than one said team?
Now you're gonna get picky? Well I certainly would be, for I would not team with you if you begged me to fill for your farm... And neither would a lot of others... That's probably why you're having a hard time finding teams. It's not them.
It's you.
Please read my FEAR/Portal/HalfLife Fan Fiction!
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8man team vs4 man team
8 man team
more xp and drops and money
4 man team
less xp and drops and money
Hope i kept it simple enough for you to figure out. But still look like you might have a prob.
Lower population means less teams. Which means less of it all.
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Simple and also wrong by the way.
Drops do scale with team size, but fail to keep up with the splitting of the drop chance
Easiest to explain
3 minions solo = 3 8% chances
5 minions in a duo = 5/2 = 2.5 8 % chances
Its not too bad of a drop off upto about 4, but 8 personteams have lousy drops
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Bwahahahah... I always think I'm the only guy who keeps tabs on the 'special' posters. Or who can hold a grudge for years if not decades, then get even when noone else knows why anymore.
"If you're going through hell, keep going."
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Bwahahahah... I always think I'm the only guy who keeps tabs on the 'special' posters. Or who can hold a grudge for years if not decades, then get even when noone else knows why anymore.
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But it always becomes apparent within a few posts, does it not? 
Please read my FEAR/Portal/HalfLife Fan Fiction!
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8man team vs4 man team
8 man team
more xp and drops and money
4 man team
less xp and drops and money
Hope i kept it simple enough for you to figure out. But still look like you might have a prob.
Lower population means less teams. Which means less of it all.
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Um... If there are even 8 people on a zone, that's a full team.
How is this different from any other team on any other server with more than one said team?
Now you're gonna get picky? Well I certainly would be, for I would not team with you if you begged me to fill for your farm... And neither would a lot of others... That's probably why you're having a hard time finding teams. It's not them.
It's you.
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Prob is i like to play the game on big teams.. It aint about farms.. its about having fair and equal game play.. I can care less about the farm part. Running same mish over and over is boring.. But when AE was like it was.. All you seen was broadcast for team. Granted most was farms .But least there was teams... Now its dead again.. And game play of more then friend is dead again.. So i dont get equal game play.. Its about making it where if i am on a small group it dont take 3 days of grinding for 20... where as on freedom 3 days of grind which is ALWAYS 8 man teams is about 35 are 40.. So how is that fair.. But i am done with forums today..
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Prob is i like to play the game on big teams.. It aint about farms.. its about having fair and equal game play.. I can care less about the farm part. Running same mish over and over is boring.
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And yet you said this about the changes the devs made to the MA to stop farming.
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Well in MA in cap today and only like 5 people in here now. Shows that this is killing it Well wish i hadn't renewed a year now..
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Gee. For someone that doesn't like farming you seem to care a lot about about not being able to farm the MA anymore.
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How about no?
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It's called a search. Use it. You'd find this, many times:
Why server consolidation is not a good idea.
Welcome to the forum. You have posted one of the oft repeated suggestions, "Consolidate the servers."
First, my stock answer, one which I stand by and repeat with all due fervor. HELL NO.
Second, a tip on searching.
1. Click on "Search" up at the top of the forum.
2. On the left, under "Forum(s) to search," select "Suggestions and ideas."
3. On the right, Keyword Search Terms. This is probably where your problem was if you did search. Try the following, exactly as typed:
+server -pvp -"re: "
This will search for anything with "Server" in the title, including Servers, Combine Servers, Consolidate Servers, and The Server At Mcdonalds Is Rude. it will eliminate "PVP," so you won't see PVP server requests, and the -re: portion of it removes replies, so you'll see the root of every thread that comes up, letting you see just how many threads there are on this. (The last helps for other subjects, as well.)
4. Click the "In subject" radio button. This is a search, not a cute blonde in a bikini. Here, you want to ignore the body.
5. Leave Username Search blank.
6. Date range, Newer Than, change the 1 to a 3, and the time to Months.
7. Result format doesn't matter. Click on "Submit."
As I try this now, (12/3/08,) we have:
Consolidate Server
Server Stats RSS Feed
$server modifier ofr chat
Fix the forum server
Earlyissue server
Merging low population server
Combine slow server
Server status
Global chat on the Character and Server Screens
Rated M server
Add Ponies, Nerf Vills, merge Servers, PistolMelee
Server Visiting
Display Central Time on Server Status Page
Ignoring the smartalec reply, that's three full discussions about this topic.
You should have read one of them if (inevitably) something similar comes up in your search.
Now, on to the topic at hand....
Why server consolidation is not a good idea.
1. Just because YOU like living in New York City doesn't mean I can't like Kansas.
Yay, you love having huge lag spikes as you get near the black market/wentworths and a busy broadcast. Congrats. Enjoy Freedom. Some of us - many of which you will get replies from with this subject - like *low population* servers. If we *wanted* to be on Freedom, we'd *be* on Freedom.
I have characters on Freedom. I rarely play them (and actually moved a character OFF of Freedom to finish leveling it to 50) because *I DON'T LIKE FREEDOM.* I dislike the banality of broadcast, the high percentage of *horrid* teams I've come across there, the lag around any gathering point- and I've got a decent connection and system. For much the same reason, I typically startin Galaxy City instead of Atlas Park - I don't *want* to log in to a costume contest with several 50s spamming powers and nonsense arguments in broadcast.
Some of us *like* nice, quiet servers.
2, Kansas, part 2.
In addition, servers have their own personalities. No, I don't mean that literally, there's no AI to worry about if you start hearing "Daisy, Daisy" over your speakers or headset. Freedom's a crowded mess. Virtue is the RP server. Pinnacle is the "Drunk" server. Others have specific communities, such as those from Australia/NZ, Europe, etc.
3. "I only saw one other person. World of Conancraft has eleventy billion!"
So what?
We don't run around camping spawn points in this game. People are in missions. People are spread across many zones. Search on a map or do a /whoall and you'll miss those in missions, as well as those who are, for whatever reason, on /hide. Your "search" there didn't give you a full picture, not in the least.
4. "I put up my LFT flag and nothing happened!"
Learn to search. Don't just wait. Form a team yourself.
5. "I AM SPARTACUS!" No, not any more.
Remember logging in and seeing all those slots? Everyone has those - some buy more than the base 12, you get an extra one each year, you could have a total of 36 on any server. Everyone does. Every one has a character with a unique name. Maybe not a *good* name, but a unique one. Every one has a character with a unique name. Maybe not a *good* name, but a unique one.
Now merge servers. Suddenly, CoolBlasterDude from server 1 is getting merged with CoolBlasterDude from Server 2. Who gets to keep their name? Nobody has been able to answer this with any degree of satisfaction. Add a number? But I am NOT CoolBlasterGuy1. And what if the name's too long? Does the older character keep it? What if they're not as active?
People are *VERY* attached to their names. They are, quite obviously, part of their character.
6. "This Is SPARTA!" Sorry, Sparta exists already. You are GenericSG 8734 287 9798.
What else has a name? Supergroups. And I can *guarandamntee* that the same name is in use on multiple servers. Sometimes it's 'branches' of the same SG, sometimes it's coincidence. But with *everything* involved in an SG - from its identity and reputation on the server, to everything stored in the database about what it owns, what its base is like and such, this would be a disaster in the making. And no, auto merging them when the servers merge, even if they have room to, is not an option.
This, of course, assumes that they *CAN* move supergroups as a unit. More than likely, it'd just be a mass character move, with bases, prestige, anything stored in bases and all SG affiliations just gone forever.
7. "I am... where'd Spartacus go?"
Remember all those slots? Well, you start with 1/3 of the available ones. You can buy up to 36 total (24 on top of the ones you get initially.) Now, what do you suppose would happen if you merged two servers, and someone has, say, 20 characters on each? Not unusual. In fact, before those extra slots, I had *filled up* several servers. Do those characters just disappear? Do they move? Free move to another server sounds great, right... well, except you now kick them from their supergroup, remove them from their friends lists and more. This makes for angry and unhappy customers. Or rather, ex customers.
8. I will play where I damn well want to. And you can too.
And that should be blunt enough. If I want a crowded server, I'll go to Freedom. If I want an RP server, I'll go to Virtue. I do NOT want to be shoved onto another server I *don't* like. If I wanted to go there, *I'd be there.*
If the server you're on isn't "busy" enough for you, you have two options that won't bother anyone else.
(A) If it's low enough, reroll. You have a ton of character slots for a reason.
(B) If you don't want to reroll, server transfers are available, and relatively cheap. They also finish fast - you should be up and running and being spammed to join someone's SG on the new server in a few minutes, in most instances. So YOU can go to the server of YOUR choice without screwing ME over.
9. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Last but not least (at least until better points come along to be added,) server consolidation is widely viewed in the industry as an MMO going on life support. No, we don't have WoWs numbers (and you should actually pay attention to when and how they got those.) They're an abberation in the MMO industry. COH has had and does have a very successful, sustainable population even at its lowest points, so there's no economic need to combine anything. The flip side of that, of course, has been suggested above - you crowd people together, break up their SGs and friends lists, cause characters to go missing and poeple definitely *will* quit, both out of annoyance and a sense of "The game is almost dead!"
In conclusion....
As stated before, when it comes to server consolidation... HELL NO.
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Playing on a low population server is it's own reward.
I like not being greyed out during events.
I like soloing without pop-up spam.
I like not having laggy zones.
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This ^^
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Shure Shot - 50 Arch/NRG/MM Blaster
Silent Shadow Blade - 50 Katana/SR/BM Scrapper
Uphir - 50 Fire/Fire/Fire Blaster
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Bwahahahah... I always think I'm the only guy who keeps tabs on the 'special' posters. Or who can hold a grudge for years if not decades, then get even when noone else knows why anymore.
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You don't need to "keep tabs" on them. They draw attention to themselves.
And yes, horrible idea on a flawed premise. I can, should I so choose, get a full team on any server. I tend to prefer smaller ones. No, it's not from being "known" as most of my characters are NOT "known," and I don't tend to publish my global.
As much as I dislike Freedom, I don't think they should be at any more of a disadvantage than they already are.
I think you aren't able to understand the word "fair".
If others get on teams and do missions, they get xp and drops.
If you get on teams and missions, you get xp and drops.
It's not a race, this is not a game where you must get to the top in order to do anything.
It's fair that every team has scaled drops that go according to their size and difficulty. What in the world does that have to do with whether YOU can get yourself on a team or not?
You are extremely confused, about how the game is designed to be played. You're also confused about the other people playing - some of us like the pace at which we level. Many don't feel that leveling to 20 is a 'grind' in any way. Because we're having too much fun running around beating the crap out of enemies and dinging every couple hours at least. Hell, every few minutes if you have half a clue how to street hunt while going to missions.
Street hunting isn't very possible inside the MA is it! Finding non-farm teams IS harder but won't be any more. People played this game the 'long way' around for 5 years. We can handle it now, with or without the MA, and with or preferably without the farms.
There is no need for readjusting anything for 'smaller' servers. You don't know how many people are on any given server, the only thing that is important is exactly the size of your team. Doesn't matter if it takes 5 minutes or an hour to build a team, once that team is going, you get what everyone else with a team that size gets. Fair.
Changing the numbers to meet your desires to powerlevel without a big team? Unfair.
Please read my FEAR/Portal/HalfLife Fan Fiction!
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Shark we didn't paste it because it doesn't apply here.
He isn't suggesting a server merge.
He's suggesting that players on low pop servers should get more influence, more drops and more experience.
Who wants to take bids on how many more of these threads will pop up in the next few days/weeks?
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Shure Shot - 50 Arch/NRG/MM Blaster
Silent Shadow Blade - 50 Katana/SR/BM Scrapper
Uphir - 50 Fire/Fire/Fire Blaster
yeah, i figure its going to turn into one of those though. might as well be proactive about it now.
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Who wants to take bids on how many more of these threads will pop up in the next few days/weeks?
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Didn't you hear? He paid for a year.
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yeah, i figure its going to turn into one of those though. might as well be proactive about it now.
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My apologies then. 
Carry on.
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Who wants to take bids on how many more of these threads will pop up in the next few days/weeks?
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Didn't you hear? He paid for a year.
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Yeah, that's funny.
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Shure Shot - 50 Arch/NRG/MM Blaster
Silent Shadow Blade - 50 Katana/SR/BM Scrapper
Uphir - 50 Fire/Fire/Fire Blaster
Why have lower servers when its peoples fault that they chose champion or protector
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The only people that did anything wrong are the ones that made all their characters on Freedom then whine when they find themselves locked out because the pop cap is full.
If they want maximize their ability to play they need to make characters on low pop servers because they never get greyed out.
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Until they all do it...
uh oh.
*nothing to see here*
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Shure Shot - 50 Arch/NRG/MM Blaster
Silent Shadow Blade - 50 Katana/SR/BM Scrapper
Uphir - 50 Fire/Fire/Fire Blaster
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"Fault?"
*ahem*
I chose Protector back in october of 04 as my true home server after bouncing around on Freedumb, Infinity, Triumph and other servers. I chose it because a group of us from my store, customers and coworkers, had all gotten into COH and realized we could make a great fun supergroup there for just us.
Supergroup's still there, got a nice base, only a couple active players, since a lot of us broke up after a while, and the person who suggested the group has passed away. I keep his character in the group, in honor of him.
I find no fault here. I love my friends on Protector, I love the fun that we have there, as an intimate family of silly people. My server was heavily represented at the first hero-con (well, the meet n greet that prototyped it), far more so than anyone could have imagined. We've got a happy couple that met in the game and proposed at the next hero con, about to be married next week. I'm extremely proud to be on "lol protector" the little server that could.
Fault?
Feh.
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Because they don't want you to play the game the way you want to, they want you to play the game the way THEY want to...it's THEIR game.
Would you just leave already? Follow your friends to whatever other game they're playing. You hate it here, we get it.
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Sorry but i payed my year and i am here till next renew. So how about the one that want it all nerfed leave. Heres a idea.. Buff the game
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I don't want to see anything nerfed.
I don't particularly want things to be easier.
What I'd like to see are some new low level story arcs, perhaps rebalanced for quicker leveling in the 1-20 range.